Discipline Issues in Schools

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Aikmaniac;4082874 said:
Good news...the punk has been suspended for five days and is a major candidate for expulsion per the principal.

Shelley told me she noticed a difference already when this punk was not in class. Amazing, huh?

Yeah, the principle can even place him in classes with teachers who are better suited to handle these types of kids.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;4082916 said:
Yeah, the principle can even place him in classes with teachers who are better suited to handle these types of kids.

Yeah, like in juvie.
 

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Aikmaniac;4082918 said:
Yeah, like in juvie.

Exactly.

Kids like this need a few years of behavioral correction at the hands of some ex-Marines IMO. Let that little **** say something to someone of a little more stature....
 

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Eh, I don't agree with knee-jerk reactions with most things and particularly not with kids. Putting them in juvie only exposes them to worse things, thus typically makes them worse people.

No one ever said teaching was fun and games. But, imo, as they say... if you don't like the heat, stay out of the kitchen. The young man needs a lesson in life, not jail....
 

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I believe in corporal punishment; however, in this case, we're past that point, in my opinion.
 

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tomson75;4082921 said:
Exactly.

Kids like this need a few years of behavioral correction at the hands of some ex-Marines IMO. Let that little **** say something to someone of a little more stature....
I agree with this.

My older half brother got in trouble in HS. Bad trouble. I personally applaud what he did. He is into martial arts. A guy raped my cousin. He beat the guy up. Bad.

Now, I do not want to give the wrong impression here, he is a jerk. He was in martial arts for the wrong reason. He liked hurting people. He hurt that kid.

A judge gave him two choices. 1, go to jail. 2, join the military. He was 17. He chose the Army. 2 weeks into his basic training he was made the base martial arts instructor. He is that good.

The only thing that saved him from himself was the Army. He's still a jerk, but it is controlled. Mostly self centered. He still gets in fights. But he doesn't push it too far. He wins and it is over.

I think self important kids with attitudes ought to back up their attitudes against people who don't back down. I think it could be their only chance to be worth a pint of piss to this world or themselves.
 

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Unfortunately my brother walked away from coaching and teaching for this reason.... They disallowed licks in school which seems stupid to me. These kids need to go straight to armed forces it may be the only way to save them from their self.
 

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Aikmaniac;4078387 said:
As soon as Ryan (the punk) walked in, he said to write him a referral since he didn't want to be anywhere near Shelley and then went on to say that he would punch her in the mouth if he saw her tomorrow. He said this as he was walking away. The police couldn't do anything since he didn't say it to her face or have a weapon on him when the threat was made. Give...me...a...break.

Sounds like lazy police work. That's the communication of a threat if I've ever read one on a charge sheet, and I have.
 

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Chocolate Lab;4078675 said:
Isn't it amazing how our self esteems weren't destroyed, we didn't hate ourselves, and we generally weren't scarred for life? :cool:

You forgot about walking five miles to school in ten feet of snow. ;)

Regarding the OP's post, the deliberately disruptive kid should be suspended or expelled. Much better to lose one kid than the whole class due to his aberrant behavior. "Wait 'til your father gets home" has little resonance anymore thanks to single-parent homes.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;4082929 said:
Eh, I don't agree with knee-jerk reactions with most things and particularly not with kids. Putting them in juvie only exposes them to worse things, thus typically makes them worse people.
Solitary confinement baby! :laugh2:
 

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bbgun;4083758 said:
You forgot about walking five miles to school in ten feet of snow. ;)

Regarding the OP's post, the deliberately disruptive kid should be suspended or expelled. Much better to lose one kid than the whole class due to his aberrant behavior. "Wait 'til your father gets home" has little resonance anymore thanks to single-parent homes.

You forgot up hill both ways.
 

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Kids like this just need to be beaten.

Simple as that. Beat the ever-loving piss out of this kid and I bet you anything he straightens his act out.
 

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This generation is overwhelmed by "reality television". I wish we could have "reality internet" in our schools.

Get webcams.

Install them in all the classrooms.

A lot (not all of course) of this nonsense would lessen or disappear if more eyes and visual records could be made of what's happening inside the classroom from the opening bell to final recess. There would be no more excuses to shield idiot students if EVERYBODY can see how you are acting out.

Such a thing would come with fringe benefits as well. Bad teachers could be more easily identified. It could function as a monitoring system to discourage violence and crimes in schools. Want to know if you kid is doing what they claim they are doing in school? Click on a link to their classes and find out yourself.

This post may inspire some political commentary, but let's not come to that. I just think that we underutilize the internet in ways that can be easily and cheaply adapted. Just my two cents.
 

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DallasEast;4083869 said:
This generation is overwhelmed by "reality television". I wish we could have "reality internet" in our schools.

Get webcams.

Install them in all the classrooms.


A lot (not all of course) of this nonsense would lessen or disappear if more eyes and visual records could be made of what's happening inside the classroom from the opening bell to final recess. There would be no more excuses to shield idiot students if EVERYBODY can see how you are acting out.

Such a thing would come with fringe benefits as well. Bad teachers could be more easily identified. It could function as a monitoring system to discourage violence and crimes in schools. Want to know if you kid is doing what they claim they are doing in school? Click on a link to their classes and find out yourself.

This post may inspire some political commentary, but let's not come to that. I just think that we underutilize the internet in ways that can be easily and cheaply adapted. Just my two cents.

That's a really good idea.

They have them on the school bus.

Put them in the classroom and punish the hell out of the clowns.
 

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Hoofbite;4083876 said:
That's a really good idea.

They have them on the school bus.

Put them in the classroom and punish the hell out of the clowns.
Can imagine an idiot showing up in juvenile court saying that he did not do anything wrong? The judge would go, "Oh really. Give me a sec so I can check out the video of you not doing what you claimed did not happen."
 

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DallasEast;4083869 said:
This generation is overwhelmed by "reality television". I wish we could have "reality internet" in our schools.

Get webcams.

Install them in all the classrooms
.

A lot (not all of course) of this nonsense would lessen or disappear if more eyes and visual records could be made of what's happening inside the classroom from the opening bell to final recess. There would be no more excuses to shield idiot students if EVERYBODY can see how you are acting out.

Such a thing would come with fringe benefits as well. Bad teachers could be more easily identified. It could function as a monitoring system to discourage violence and crimes in schools. Want to know if you kid is doing what they claim they are doing in school? Click on a link to their classes and find out yourself.

This post may inspire some political commentary, but let's not come to that. I just think that we underutilize the internet in ways that can be easily and cheaply adapted. Just my two cents.

Teacher's unions would never allow it. They'd say it was tantamount to "spying" on them.
 

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bbgun;4083946 said:
Teacher's unions would never allow it. They'd say it was tantamount to "spying" on them.

And they would have a point.

I'm not denying the idea has merit. It most certainly does. But consider how you might feel if someone installed a webcam in your office.
 

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bbgun;4083946 said:
Teacher's unions would never allow it. They'd say it was tantamount to "spying" on them.
My mother was a teacher. She would want out of a union which did not provide useful solutions to a workplace dilemma.
ScipioCowboy;4083959 said:
And they would have a point.

I'm not denying the idea has merit. It most certainly does. But consider how you might feel if someone installed a webcam in your office.
Well, I'm sure there are plenty examples of office environments where mature employees are confronted with immature elementary and high school aged co-workers. :)
 
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