News: DMN: Big bonus within reach for Cowboys DE Greg Hardy

Sitting him so you don't have to pay is bush league. It will guarantee free agency failure. The Cowboys don't have that rep of being cheap, let's not start that now
 
eternaljester81 said:
Sit him and save the $500K.
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Yeah, that will make him want to
Come back, particularly for a guy second on the team in sacks and QB pressures while missing four games and a year off..

We'll see how impressive Lawrence is, playing without Hardy and when Marinelli goes back to playing conservative, without any blitzing up front..

And the Golden Cock is back to playing more reps getting stone walked on the regular...
 
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BTW, we have two more sacks this season than last season and we've still got a game to play. And our DL as a group has 23.5 sacks as opposed to 20.5.

We have more sacks this year, but we are dramatically lower in TOs. The argument that more sacks correlates with more effective pass pressure or better defense is not true.

Our lack of TOs is the result of other issues, particularly ularly our conservative play defensively and offensively, we are garbage so no team is threatened in having to keep pace with our offense so they end up taking risks.

We've already got two INTs by two scrub corners off the streets, because they probably play outside the system and zone at times.


http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/DeMar...sack-streak-Greg-Hardy-nearing-bonus-42313655
 
khiladi said:
BTW, we have two more sacks this season than last season and we've still got a game to play. And our DL as a group has 23.5 sacks as opposed to 20.5.

We have more sacks this year, but we are dramatically lower in TOs. The argument that more sacks correlates with more effective pass pressure or better defense is not true.

Our lack of TOs is the result of other issues, particularly ularly our conservative play defensively and offensively, we are garbage so no team is threatened in having to keep pace with our offense so they end up taking risks.

We've already got two INTs by two scrub corners off the streets, because they probably play outside the system and zone at times.


http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/DeMar...sack-streak-Greg-Hardy-nearing-bonus-42313655
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Still not enough sacks. Need to be up around 35-40 sacks and I believe takeaways will happen.
 
khiladi said:
BTW, we have two more sacks this season than last season and we've still got a game to play. And our DL as a group has 23.5 sacks as opposed to 20.5.

We have more sacks this year, but we are dramatically lower in TOs. The argument that more sacks correlates with more effective pass pressure or better defense is not true.

Our lack of TOs is the result of other issues, particularly ularly our conservative play defensively and offensively, we are garbage so no team is threatened in having to keep pace with our offense so they end up taking risks.

We've already got two INTs by two scrub corners off the streets, because they probably play outside the system and zone at times.


http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/DeMar...sack-streak-Greg-Hardy-nearing-bonus-42313655
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Agree with your statement in bold.

All the teams that have played it close to the vest versus the Cowboys for 3.5 quarters and won knew that the only minutes that mattered were the final 5 of the 4th quarter. They just needed to keep it close.

Everyone, including Redball, knows the final outcome of a close game is determined by three to five keys plays. Make those plays or stop those plays and you win.

Opposing OCs turned it up a notch for the big plays in the 4th quarter and Dallas was unprepared for them defensively after having been able to stop them for most of the game. This is what happens when you fail to take chances.
 
Im not sure why people think he can just rack up two in one game. He hasn't done it since new England.
 
We gotta meep hardy. I just dont see it with gregory, not yet and i dont think we will next year either
 
khiladi said:
How do you explain last year when we had over thirty TOs?
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Besides QB strip sacks, most TOs are pretty random. Every D strips and punches at the ball so that should be even or within a small difference.

INTs come from being behind and we didn't have the big leads needed to force risks.

Sometimes the ball just bounces the wrong way and TOs are the hardest thing to predict or produce.

That is why it so painful watching us play so conservatively. You can manufacture TOs with going for 4th downs and with fake punts or FGs. Even surprise on-side KOs act as TOs.

Keeping an edge rusher like Hardy is one of the easiest ways to help produce TOs.
 
bkight13 said:
Besides QB strip sacks, most TOs are pretty random. Every D strips and punches at the ball so that should be even or within a small difference.

INTs come from being behind and we didn't have the big leads needed to force risks.
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Some of it is random, however, some of it is that some players are just great at it and have a nose for turnovers.

Examples Charles Woodson - 95 combined interceptions and forced fumbles in his career
Example: Charles Tillman - 82 combined interceptions and forced fumbles in his career

In otherwords it isn't all random. If you accumulate enough guys on a defense who have a history of forcing turnovers, they will probably force turnovers for you.

If you accumulate enough players on your defense who don't have a history (either in the pros or college) forcing turn-overs, it's probably safe to assume they won't do it for you.
 
perrykemp said:
Some of it is random, however, some of it is that some players are just great at it and have a nose for turnovers.

Examples Charles Woodson - 95 combined interceptions and forced fumbles in his career
Example: Charles Tillman - 82 combined interceptions and forced fumbles in his career

In otherwords it isn't all random. If you accumulate enough guys on a defense who have a history of forcing turnovers, they will probably force turnovers for you.

If you accumulate enough players on your defense who don't have a history (either in the pros or college) forcing turn-overs, it's probably safe to assume they won't do it for you.
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Even with those guys you can't predict which years will be big TO years and which ones won't.
 
NewsBot said:
ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- The Cowboys finished with three sacks against Buffalo. It was only the fifth time this season the Cowboys have had at least three sacks in a game.

Defensive end Greg Hardy was credited with a half-sack, giving him six on the season. Hardy will need two more sacks in the regular-season finale Sunday against Washington to reach eight, which would guarantee him a $500,000 bonus as part of his incentive-laced one-year deal.

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Sir Jones, don't be a grinch; Play Hardy because who knows when he'll need morre payoff money?
 
HeavyBarrel said:
That would be considered "dirty pool" by the NFLPA and free agents would take notice lol....Defintely not a line to cross
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Yes, like the NFLPA is always fair and above board.
Someone hold my hair while I upchuck, mates!
 
Even if his self-evaluation is completely unrealistic, leading to a free market hold-out for the big bucks, the market may bring him back to earth and he may decide a conservative contract with the 'Boys that wanted him is the best decision.
 
Sit him and guarantee he gets it or play him and let him try to earn it. Tough choice.
 
Craig said:
Sit him and guarantee he gets it or play him and let him try to earn it. Tough choice.
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If they wanted to save money and piss him off they would have cut him weeks ago.

He gets 580k per game when active, so another 500k for 2 sacks is not a big deal.

It would bring his total pay for the year up to just over 9m.
 
bkight13 said:
Besides QB strip sacks, most TOs are pretty random. Every D strips and punches at the ball so that should be even or within a small difference.

INTs come from being behind and we didn't have the big leads needed to force risks.

Sometimes the ball just bounces the wrong way and TOs are the hardest thing to predict or produce.

That is why it so painful watching us play so conservatively. You can manufacture TOs with going for 4th downs and with fake punts or FGs. Even surprise on-side KOs act as TOs.

Keeping an edge rusher like Hardy is one of the easiest ways to help produce TOs.
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Good take.
 
Find it odd that people want Garrett gone for 24M he's owed, but have reservations with Hardy EARNING 500k more.
 
jterrell said:
Hardy is a really good player and I'd love him back but we can't pay him 10M + per year.
At 8 or 9MM /yr I am in provided the guarantee isn't insane.

Hardy has played all along the DL and he does play hard with severe force.
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We saw what he can do against the Patriots creating 5 sacks just from his play. I think a full offseason will do him good
 
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