DMN Blog: Aikman: If Roy Williams doesn't produce, trade is 'biggest bust' in NFL

[khiladi]

IMO.

Those comments tell me that Jason Garrett wasn't the #1 guy wanting to trade for Roy Williams.


Jerry and the scouting dept made that trade happen.

But that would mean that Garrett wanted TO on the team... I'm sorry, but it seems to me Aikman is doing whatever he can to defend his boy Garrett.... The team failed last year because of TO. If Roy can't do it, he would be the biggest bust in the NFL. Where does Garrett sit in this picture?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

12:51 PM Tue, Apr 07, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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Everyone is aching to see whether Roy Williams can indeed step into Terrell Owens' vacant spot and become the Cowboys' No. 1 receiver this season. Troy Aikman believes that if Williams doesn't produce, the trade would be nothing short of "one of the biggest busts in the history of the league."

When asked Tuesday if Williams was ready for the No. 1 receiving role, Aikman said, "Well, he better [be.]

"I don't think you can give up what the Cowboys gave up for somebody and not make that a sure bet," Aikman said. "This isn't like drafting a No. 1 receiver out of the college draft and then saying, 'Well, we think he's got all the skills to be a great player for us.' He's been in the NFL. He's caught balls in the NFL. They've got a lot of tape on him, and they had the ability to talk to a lot of people who had coached him, played against him, played with him.

"If Roy Williams doesn't turn out to be the player they thought he would be when they made the trade, I think this would be one of the biggest busts in the history of the league."

So not just the biggest trade bust in the history of the Cowboys. The entire NFL? Here's where ol' No. 8 drove his point home - perhaps too close to home if you're team owner Jerry Jones.

"I just think that when you have the chance to evaluate a player to the degree the Cowboys were able to and then to give up what you gave up," Aikman said, "if he's not a No. 1 receiver and not a highly productive player for this team, that's a huge flaw within their scouting department."


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The title is going to make many people on here very happy.


I just hope that he does what we know he can do.
I disagree with those who say he cant be a #1.

 

[Randy White]

to Troy:

Stick to color analyst because, otherwise, you have NO clue at what you're talking about.

Out of the top of my head, if RW doesn't pan out, I can think of two trades who are infinitely worse ( Joey Galloway and the 1995 draft trade with Tampa ).

Sometimes Troy needs to be *****slapped into reality.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I think Roy W. is going to shut up a lot of critics this year.

 

[joseephuss]

to Troy:

Stick to color analyst because, otherwise, you have NO clue at what you're talking about.

Out of the top of my head, if RW doesn't pan out, I can think of two trades who are infinitely worse ( Joey Galloway and the 1995 draft trade with Tampa ).

Sometimes Troy needs to be *****slapped into reality.

The 1995 trade with Tampa is only bad if you assume that Dallas would have used the pick to draft Derrek Brooks. I don't think Dallas would have drafted Brooks. Jerry was still of that mind set that you don't need big name linebackers for the Cowboys defense.

Jerry would have probably still drafted Sherman Williams, which I thought was a bad pick no matter what round he was drafted. It just would have been worse using a 1st round pick on him.

There were not a lot of good players drafted after Brooks in the bottom of the 1st and through the second round. Dallas missed on Williams, Kendall Watkins and Shane Hannah in the second round that year.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Is it Apollo Creed or Khiladi that ALWAYS comments on Troy's views of RW? I'm sure they will be on this thread like stink on dookie in a minute!


:laugh2:

You nailed it!

 

[jday]

:bang2:


The lack of reading comprehension is pretty scary thus far. If someone could just please find the statements enclosed in bunny ears where Aikman blasted the acquisition of Roy as the worse move in the history of the NFL, I'd sincerely appreciate it. Otherwise, please note this is just another situation where a reporter is affording himself the ability to write two or three times about the same thing, rather than reporting exactly what was said in it's exact context.

<Rant/Off>

 

[TheCount]

Winning will. I hope he has big number but if this team goes from 1st rd knock outs to champions I could careless about RW individual numbers. It is all about winning

Obviously. The Superbowl is the ultimate cure-all, just look at Eli.

 

[bbgun]

:bang2:


The lack of reading comprehension is pretty scary thus far. If someone could just please find the statements enclosed in bunny ears where Aikman blasted the acquisition of Roy as the worse move in the history of the NFL, I'd sincerely appreciate it. Otherwise, please note this is just another situation where a reporter is affording himself the ability to write two or three times about the same thing, rather than reporting exactly what was said in it's exact context.

<Rant/Off>

True, Troy isn't necessarily predicting failure from Williams, but merely posing a hypothetical. Still, it's clear that he's not enamored with Williams, and probably doesn't expect much from him. Certainly not enough to justify what we gave up. That said, I do find it amusing to see certain fans working feverishly to lower the expectations for Roy.

 

[Doomsday101]

Obviously. The Superbowl is the ultimate cure-all, just look at Eli.

I'm just saying I don't care about the individual numbers, I have seen the 13 pro bowl players and guys with very good individual numbers what I want to see is guys willing to sacrifice for the team now whine about why they did not get the ball. The game is about 1 thing and that is winning you do what it takes to win individual BS needs to come in 2nd to all else. Funny thing is when teams do that the individual accolades will come your way. So if RW goes out and has 60 catches with 6 or 7 TD and this team goes out and wins that is what matters a group of players coming together as a team.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Winning will. I hope he has big number but if this team goes from 1st rd knock outs to champions I could careless about RW individual numbers. It is all about winning

well it would suck to give up so much for Roy and win in spite of him

 

[Doomsday101]

well it would suck to give up so much for Roy and win in spite of him

Only thing that sucks is not winning. I want to see this group of players come together as a team. Way I see it teams win championships not individuals. My own feeling is this team has been too much about the individual not the overall team concept.

 

[jday]

True, Troy isn't necessarily predicting failure from Williams, but merely posing a hypothetical. Still, it's clear that he's not enamored with Williams, and probably doesn't expect much from him. Certainly not enough to justify what we gave up. That said, I do find it amusing to see certain fans working feverishly to lower the expectations for Roy.

There is another side to that token.

If you recall, Aikman was called out by Boomer Esiason for being partial to the Cowboys in his commentary. I think Aikman unconsciously may be tempering any comments he has regarding Cowboy's players with as much bias as possible. And to me that is the most unbiased statement you can make about the Roy Williams acquisition. It expresses little hope, but doesn't suggest, in my opinion, that there is reason to not have hope.

Furthermore, I am tired of this perception that Roy Williams has to replace T.O.'s production to be considered a good move. I'm fairly certain that when the Cowboy's released T.O., they didn't think Roy was capable of doing that. I believe they felt that the team as whole could replace T.O.'s production, and I agree.

If Roy Williams can put up anywhere between 800 and 1000 yards, and the Cowboys end the season with 10 and 6 or better, you have to look at the acquisition as a good one. In fact, I'd almost call those types of numbers a great reason to make the moves they did in acquiring Roy and releasing T.O. But that's just my opinion.

 

[TheCount]

I'm just saying I don't care about the individual numbers, I have seen the 13 pro bowl players and guys with very good individual numbers what I want to see is guys willing to sacrifice for the team now whine about why they did not get the ball. The game is about 1 thing and that is winning you do what it takes to win individual BS needs to come in 2nd to all else. Funny thing is when teams do that the individual accolades will come your way. So if RW goes out and has 60 catches with 6 or 7 TD and this team goes out and wins that is what matters a group of players coming together as a team.

I know what you're saying, I understand how sports work.

There is, however, the alternative. We don't win the Superbowl or even worse we don't make the playoffs? Then what?

Obviously no one complains if we win the Superbowl.

 

[Doomsday101]

I know what you're saying, I understand how sports work.

There is, however, the alternative. We don't win the Superbowl or even worse we don't make the playoffs? Then what?

Obviously no one complains if we win the Superbowl.

Then the team failed. One thing this group needs to learn is winning and losing as a team not finger pointing or back biting or unnamed personnel spilling their guts to the media. Let the critics say what they want about RW or Romo or any other player but this group needs to start coming together as a true team. RW has a contract with Dallas right now for at least the next few years, he has very good talent in my opinion but this can't be about RW it has to be about the Cowboys. I think one downside with Owens is it was always about Owens. I'm tired of it

 

[TheCount]

Then the team failed. One thing this group needs to learn is winning and losing as a team not finger pointing or back biting or unnamed personnel spilling their guts to the media. Let the critics say what they want about RW or Romo or any other player but this group needs to start coming together as a true team. RW has a contract with Dallas right now for at least the next few years, he has very good talent in my opinion but this can't be about RW it has to be about the Cowboys. I think one downside with Owens is it was always about Owens. I'm tired of it

That is all independent of the business prudence of giving draft picks away for a player.

I don't understand the hypocrisy of saying you win and lose as a team with Roy but win and lose as individuals with TO.

You're preaching to the choir as far as team unity is concerned. I've been saying that forever, but it hasn't stopped me from making mock drafts and discussion the value of players. That is still part of the sport.

 

[EveryoneElse]

Troy is right, Roy has to be among the best in the NFL to validate what we gave up for him.

I think he'll produce, and I'm a huge Roy fan but 800 yards and 5 TD's will not justify trading for him.

Thats pretty much what I expect from Roy(800 yards and 5 tds). He has had one good year in his entire career. Did Jerry think trading 3 picks and giving Roy a huge contract would wake hiim up and turn him into something he has never been?

I think this trade could be a bigger bust than the Galloway trade, if only for the fact that the Galloway trade should have been a lesson to Jerry. But, hey.....Jerry is the GM afterall.

 

[bbgun]

If Roy Williams can put up anywhere between 800 and 1000 yards, and the Cowboys end the season with 10 and 6 or better, you have to look at the acquisition as a good one. In fact, I'd almost call those types of numbers a great reason to make the moves they did in acquiring Roy and releasing T.O. But that's just my opinion.

Well, this is what I mean by fans "moving the goalposts" or lowering expectations. We didn't bring him to Dallas to be "one of the guys." Based on the draft picks, the costly contract extension, and TO's subsequent release, we're expecting much much more--and rightly so. I don't see us getting to the promised land if he puts up pedestrian stats. And if we do, he'll have little to do with it.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Only thing that sucks is not winning. I want to see this group of players come together as a team. Way I see it teams win championships not individuals. My own feeling is this team has been too much about the individual not the overall team concept.

don't you think we would be better off with a productive Roy Williams?
Witten and the running game are going to need some space, a productive Roy will go a ways to help that

 

[Doomsday101]

don't you think we would be better off with a productive Roy Williams?
Witten and the running game are going to need some space, a productive Roy will go a ways to help that

I'm not saying that. What I am saying is he has to be productive as well as other players but this team can't be dependent on any 1 individual it is too damn easy to take 1 man out of the game. Get players involved we have many with talent and if by getting more players involved 1 player’s numbers go down then so be it. Hell if Witten get few catches than he did last year and we win that is what matters not that Witten caught x number of balls.