DMN Blog: 'Boys should be hiring an offensive line coach "pretty quickly."
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khiladi;1911588 said:
Well, then every single account of Houck's contract with the Dolphins that exist on the Internet is incorrect. They all say he received a 3/yr deal worth $2.5M in 2005 when Sabin took over the Dolphins.
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ndanger;1911592 said:He told you,he was fired.
So, I guess not renewing a contract is also considered being fired. Either way, he was not under contract based on what is on record.
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1fisher;1911602 said:some folks just don't like to be told they are wrong!
Told and proved are two different things.
I presented my proof.sago1
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I loved HH's comment that he liked to go some team that had some pro bowlers on it. In that case he should be in 7th heaven (if it proves true) to be returning to the Cowboys and all our pro bowlers. Hopefully he can improve our OL both in the rushing and passing games. Wonder what his thoughts will be on Flozel Adams & whether we should keep him around. Maybe with HH running our OL he can develop Doug Free to such an extent that he's ready to start at LT in 08.
I think the decision re Adams is our most important. We need ensure LT is very good so Romo's back is consistently protected. Can Free do that job and can JJ develop him fast enough? If Free can do the job, that gives us a real possibility of signing one of the top FA WRs like Fitzgerald (Cards) or Williams (Detroit). Other possibilities are Hackett (Seattle), Bryant (Cards) or Berriam (Bears).
I think the decision re Adams is our most important. We need ensure LT is very good so Romo's back is consistently protected. Can Free do that job and can JJ develop him fast enough? If Free can do the job, that gives us a real possibility of signing one of the top FA WRs like Fitzgerald (Cards) or Williams (Detroit). Other possibilities are Hackett (Seattle), Bryant (Cards) or Berriam (Bears).
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nyc;1911608 said:Told and proved are two different things.
this is from a thread two weeks ago regarding houck being fired....
Here are some excerpts from a phone interview with ‘Hud’ yesterday.
Will you take the last year of your contract and retire?
“I’m not going to retire. I’ll look around for available jobs for an offensive line coach. You can only play golf so many days in a week.”
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here's the entire article.......
Hud goes out with class
> Posted by hfialkov at 12:15:11 PM
If there’s one assistant coach I wouldn’t have fired, it would’ve been offensive line coach Hudson Houck, who takes average linemen and molds them into solid units.
Even this year’s line was improving on a weekly basis until injuries decimated the offense, especially the season-ending ACL injury to running back Ronnie Brown in Game 7. At one point, they were averaging 5.0 yards a carry and Brown was leading the NFL in yards from scrimmage.
The combination of inexperienced quarterbacks in Cleo Lemon and John Beck seemed to adversely affect the line in the latter half of the season as the sacks became more prevalent.
Still, Houck is an asset to any team. No one could take a firing with more class than Houck, who did nothing but praise Bill Parcells and owner H. Wayne Huizenga in the manner they handled this week’s housecleaning.
Here are some excerpts from a phone interview with ‘Hud’ yesterday.
Will you take the last year of your contract and retire?
“I’m not going to retire. I’ll look around for available jobs for an offensive line coach. You can only play golf so many days in a week.”
Thoughts on Parcells…
“One, you’ve got to bring in better players and two you bring in someone to run the entire program and he’s the best guy available. Bill Parcells is the ideal guy, that’s the guy I’d get. Once you do that then you get your own people in place to work with, who you feel comfortable with so you can get it going in the right direction."
On his respect for Huizenga…
“I really do applaud the owner of this organization for being bold, in getting the best guy available to get it going in the right direction and he’s spending a lot of money doing this. It’s not easy for him. And he’s a compassionate person. This is a people person. I can’t tell you what a great organization this is. They handled this whole thing as well as I ever seen it done. I don’t feel good about leaving. I wanted to stay here and finish it out but they made it as easy as possible and I understand.”
Parcells explained his reasoning for firing the staff in a group setting.
“We understand that they have to start a program from the bottom up and they need their own people in place, people they’ve dealt with in the past, that they could rely on. Bill doesn’t know me. “I’d do the same thing. Bring in my own people. It’s hard to let people go or anyone in the whole organization from the finance department on to the trainer to the equipment people. Wayne was there individually and Bill talked to the whole group and he was very forthright. That’s the only way to handle it. Sometimes people drag it on. He gave us the opportunity to go seek other employment this early in the offseason.’’
How long to turn it around?
“This organization is premier. They will win. There is a middle of the road group, there’s the elite 5-6 teams up there, but below that group are teams - you get the right players here, younger guys who have experience, they’ll be one of the teams moving up into that next group pretty easily. They’ll win their share next year.’’
What went wrong this year?
“What was difficult about this year, was early in the year they cut a lot of players, let them go, the high price guys so they got the money down under the cap. They let some older veterans go. That’s one reason we weren’t successful this year. It opened it up for younger players. They got some good draft choices.’’ Would you re-sign Rex Hadnot? “All of that is up to Bill.’’
Did Cam get a fair shake?
“That’s not for me to comment on. He did as good job as he could do under the circumstances by holding the team together. That’s a major part of coaching. They kept playng up until the last game, coming back in the last half, guys didn’t quit. You got to be proud about that. He treated everyone as professionals, including the coaching staff.’’
You have a way of turning average linemen into studs. What’s next?
“Ronnie was averaging 5 yards a carry. The defense struggled but it’s a whole team thing. It all had to fit. I’d like to go some place where they have some Pro Bowlers. I’m worn out,’’ he said with a laugh.
Hud goes out with class
> Posted by hfialkov at 12:15:11 PM
If there’s one assistant coach I wouldn’t have fired, it would’ve been offensive line coach Hudson Houck, who takes average linemen and molds them into solid units.
Even this year’s line was improving on a weekly basis until injuries decimated the offense, especially the season-ending ACL injury to running back Ronnie Brown in Game 7. At one point, they were averaging 5.0 yards a carry and Brown was leading the NFL in yards from scrimmage.
The combination of inexperienced quarterbacks in Cleo Lemon and John Beck seemed to adversely affect the line in the latter half of the season as the sacks became more prevalent.
Still, Houck is an asset to any team. No one could take a firing with more class than Houck, who did nothing but praise Bill Parcells and owner H. Wayne Huizenga in the manner they handled this week’s housecleaning.
Here are some excerpts from a phone interview with ‘Hud’ yesterday.
Will you take the last year of your contract and retire?
“I’m not going to retire. I’ll look around for available jobs for an offensive line coach. You can only play golf so many days in a week.”
Thoughts on Parcells…
“One, you’ve got to bring in better players and two you bring in someone to run the entire program and he’s the best guy available. Bill Parcells is the ideal guy, that’s the guy I’d get. Once you do that then you get your own people in place to work with, who you feel comfortable with so you can get it going in the right direction."
On his respect for Huizenga…
“I really do applaud the owner of this organization for being bold, in getting the best guy available to get it going in the right direction and he’s spending a lot of money doing this. It’s not easy for him. And he’s a compassionate person. This is a people person. I can’t tell you what a great organization this is. They handled this whole thing as well as I ever seen it done. I don’t feel good about leaving. I wanted to stay here and finish it out but they made it as easy as possible and I understand.”
Parcells explained his reasoning for firing the staff in a group setting.
“We understand that they have to start a program from the bottom up and they need their own people in place, people they’ve dealt with in the past, that they could rely on. Bill doesn’t know me. “I’d do the same thing. Bring in my own people. It’s hard to let people go or anyone in the whole organization from the finance department on to the trainer to the equipment people. Wayne was there individually and Bill talked to the whole group and he was very forthright. That’s the only way to handle it. Sometimes people drag it on. He gave us the opportunity to go seek other employment this early in the offseason.’’
How long to turn it around?
“This organization is premier. They will win. There is a middle of the road group, there’s the elite 5-6 teams up there, but below that group are teams - you get the right players here, younger guys who have experience, they’ll be one of the teams moving up into that next group pretty easily. They’ll win their share next year.’’
What went wrong this year?
“What was difficult about this year, was early in the year they cut a lot of players, let them go, the high price guys so they got the money down under the cap. They let some older veterans go. That’s one reason we weren’t successful this year. It opened it up for younger players. They got some good draft choices.’’ Would you re-sign Rex Hadnot? “All of that is up to Bill.’’
Did Cam get a fair shake?
“That’s not for me to comment on. He did as good job as he could do under the circumstances by holding the team together. That’s a major part of coaching. They kept playng up until the last game, coming back in the last half, guys didn’t quit. You got to be proud about that. He treated everyone as professionals, including the coaching staff.’’
You have a way of turning average linemen into studs. What’s next?
“Ronnie was averaging 5 yards a carry. The defense struggled but it’s a whole team thing. It all had to fit. I’d like to go some place where they have some Pro Bowlers. I’m worn out,’’ he said with a laugh.
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nyc;1911600 said:
its not even remotely considered fired. its considered the completion of a contract.
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Wow, that took some searching. Did you see that "End of the Internet" sign to know when to stop?nyc;1911597 said:
Tell you what, in doing some Googling myself, Houck is still held in VERY high regard around the league. I bet if you gave all the head coaches in the NFL a choice of O-line coaches between Sparano and Houck, it would be heavily in favor of Houck.
Maybe even 31-1.
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1fisher;1911627 said:
I accept that someone said that in an interview. I do not dispute it one single bit. What I dispute is the fact that Houck was under contract.
Now, it's your turn to explain. Explain to me how Houck had a three-year contract that started in 2005 and lasted for three years (05', 06', and 07') yet he is still under contract in 08' without signing an extension?
Now, I'm not saying this is what happen. Tell me if it is at all possible that the person doing the interview made a mistake and Houck didn't want to make him sound like an idiot by correcting him?
I don't recall Houck being a big-time jerk when he was in Dallas.
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Chocolate Lab;1911645 said:Wow, that took some searching. Did you see that "End of the Internet" sign to know when to stop?
Tell you what, in doing some Googling myself, Houck is still held in VERY high regard around the league. I bet if you gave all the head coaches in the NFL a choice of O-line coaches between Sparano and Houck, it would be heavily in favor of Houck.
Maybe even 31-1.
Whats your point? I'm well aware of Houck and his reputation. I'm all for him returning to the Cowboys.
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nyc;1911647 said:
here's another article but I'm sure Houck is off his rocker and the reporter is wrong..... http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2007/11/houck-expects-t.html
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1fisher;1911672 said:
Uh, oh... Maybe not every single account that exists on the internet said 2007...
Just kidding you, nyc, and the second part of my other post about how Houck is esteemed around the league wasn't directed at you.
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1fisher;1911672 said:
Thats been posted at least three times now.
Here is Houck's contract with Miami. Notice it's not just a single instance of what one guy said...
Hudson Houck's Contract info
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Chocolate Lab;1911679 said:
ahh
