DMN Blog: Brady Quinn Con Job keeps looking better

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Brady Quinn Con Job keeps looking better

I believe the draft-day trade with the Browns was the best move of Jerry's GM tenure for three reasons:

1) Brady Quinn won't be a franchise quarterback.

2) The Browns will be awful this season, meaning the Cowboys will get a top-five pick (Arkansas RB Darren McFadden?).

3) Well, the list of Jerry's genius personnel moves isn't exactly long.

John Clayton's ESPN.com story about Quinn adds ammo for my first two points. He echoes all the reports coming out of Cleveland about Quinn's inaccuracy in minicamp, but Clayton writes that you can't put all the blame on Quinn. You see, the Browns' receivers stink and are a bad fit for the new offensive scheme Cleveland is installing.

Clayton also speculates that coach Romeo Crennel could get axed before the Browns' Week 7 bye.

But, hey, let's look on the bright side for the Browns. Quinn might hold out during training camp, but he's "more than happy to be here."

Posted by Tim MacMahon at 11:44 AM (E-mail this entry) | Comments (0)

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[zeromaster]

I'll agree that based on only minicamps, how Quinn looks right now is not enough to base "bust" on.

However...

If he holds out for an extended period of time, lost work in training camp will have an effect on his progress. Drastically changing an offense and receivers that aren't suited for it will also have an effect. Overwhelming hometown expectations coupled with rabid fans also will. Plenty of promising rookies have been damaged career-wise with the wrong start. Only time will tell if the seeds of that are present up north.

These things aren't trivial. They don't guarantee doom, but imagine a pre-Romo QB situation here, and a hot-shot local quarteback with a high collegiate profile had been taken by us, how much patience would we have if the incumbent struggled and the offense had just been changed?

Yes that previous paragraph all theoretical, but put yourself in that picture for just a moment. It could have happened. Remember Kolb up in Philly, though I don't put him in the same class as Quinn. The situation in Cle bears watching from a safe distance. It doesn't guarantee us a top-five pick, but I'd rather have the situation in Dallas than the one the Browns are facing.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I remember mentioning how overrated Quinn was earlier in the year and people on this very site thought I was crazy...

 

[burmafrd]

virtually every teams board had him in the top 10. And he did not get picked untill 22. He could also have gone in the top 3- Cleveland flat out said that if Thomas had not been there he would have been their choice. That is the way it goes sometimes. I do remind you that Montana went in the 3rd rd, Marino did not get picked untill #22 (interesting parallel there, eh?) and then there is Brady. And of course we could talk about Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, etc.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Doesn't surprise me. Quinn always had an inordinate amount of Whiskey Tango Foxtrot throws every time I watched him in college. His accuracy always seemed to get the benefit of the doubt, though. That "Golden Boy" mystique goes a long way. Ask Eli.

 

[Muhast]

I mean in clevelands defense...

Charlie Frye and Anderson< Quinn.

Whether Quinn pans out or not.. we will see in 2-3 years( well we can decide then i mean).

And think of all the money they saved by getting him 22nd instead of 3rd lol

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Who cares about next year or the year after that. All I want is for him to be horrid this year ensuring the #1 pick in next years draft.

I'm sure we will have a excellent pick, that's pretty much a given, but the #1 pick, I don't know about that.

There is this force in Cowboyfandom that wants Quinn to fail so it will make them feel good about Jerry's decision. That's mainly what I get out of them chompin' at the bit for Quinn to fail. Sure I want that decision to work out for the Cowboys and I want Romo to be a franchise QB for the Cowboys but I ain't gonna root for Quinn to fail during the course of his career over it, unless of course he's playing against us.

But if he played for the Redskids, Eagles, Giants, 49ers, or SteAlers I'd root for him to throw a football worse than Quincy could.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

I'm basing this entirely on the fact that he could never beat the good teams. USC, Michigan, etc. Great QBs win games, specially in college.

I don't think Aikman did too hot in big games in college, I don't think he ever beat USC either, nor did Peyton Manning ever beat Florida or John Elway, he never won a bowl game, but I guess based on thier W/L record in big college games they should've never been drafted #1. That's really a flawed way of lookin' at it bud.

 

[ENGCowboy]

Clayton also speculates that coach Romeo Crennel could get axed before the Browns' Week 7 bye.

This is possibly the stupidest point in the whole article. Why in the world would the Browns get rid of a HC that the GM likes and works well with, who obviously has a longterm plan and has just found his QB(good or not). Even if the Browns struggle early he can throw in Quinn and put it down to a learning year. Rookie QBs save their headcoaches for a year at least typically.

And finally why would the Browns expect anything other than a losing season.:laugh2: :laugh2:

:browns:

 

[Sarge]

As many have said a thousand times before, you can't truly judge a draft until 3-4 years down the road.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I want the #1 draft pick......sorry

 

[burmafrd]

Manning and Aikman both never won a lot of big games in college. But I guess that sort of thing is ignored now. cutler was stuck at Vanderbilt- a truly bad deal for a talented QB. But I guess that doesn't count either.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Doesn't surprise me. Quinn always had an inordinate amount of Whiskey Tango Foxtrot throws every time I watched him in college. His accuracy always seemed to get the benefit of the doubt, though. That "Golden Boy" mystique goes a long way. Ask Eli.

YEP! :laugh2:

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Manning and Aikman both never won a lot of big games in college. But I guess that sort of thing is ignored now. cutler was stuck at Vanderbilt- a truly bad deal for a talented QB. But I guess that doesn't count either.

Aikman wasn't on particularly stellar teams at UCLA...

 

[Hoofbite]

Doesn't surprise me. Quinn always had an inordinate amount of Whiskey Tango Foxtrot throws every time I watched him in college. His accuracy always seemed to get the benefit of the doubt, though. That "Golden Boy" mystique goes a long way. Ask Eli.

Nicely done.....

 

[BlueStar II]

Yes, the Quinn deal is beginning to look even better now that the draft is over. Having two first rounders next year will definitely give us some more flexibility should Jones wish to work with those pics. and possibly move them around as well. Should prove to be an interesting first round for us, and possibly other rounds as well due to the 1st round additional pick.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

I want the #1 draft pick......sorry

Why? Jerry will just pick Mario Williams II. He can't spend enough top picks on the D.

 

[iceberg]

I think it is great the way everyone just repeating this like it will be proven true any sooner. We will not know for several years. We do not even know if Tony Romo is a franchise QB and he has actually played.

Another baseless assumption.

This is probably the most accurate and readily true statement he made in the whole entry.

we're going to have to quit agreeing alexander. it's scaring me.

yes, i hope quinn has a bad year, if he plays.
yes, i hope the browns tank and we get the #1 overall pick

but people lose sight of the fact that almost ALL rookie qb's look bad early on.

also, this isn't even training camp, it's just a mini-camp w/o pads so it's even moreso far too early to call BUST or "con job".

just because we want the above to be true doesn't mean it will be and each and every news-nugget that comes along that says quinn isn't looking good is NOT evidence to support what we want to be true just yet.

it will be years before we know if even then really. in the meantime it's going to get very old watching people shout out every quinn mistake as if doing so gives us that #1 pick we all want.

 

[AtlCB]

No, Jerra's hiring of Jimma was the best move of the owner's NFL career.
Though this draft-day maneuver does rank high.

Pulling off the Hershel Walker trade was the greatest move by Jerra. His list of great moves is not a short list. Unfortunately, his list of horrible moves is also not a short list.

 

[yesfan]

Pulling off the Hershel Walker trade was the greatest move by Jerra. His list of great moves is not a short list. Unfortunately, his list of horrible moves is also not a short list.

That has to be the best trade in the history of the NFL.