DMN Blog: Cowboys could make room for Matt Jones

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Bob Sacamano;2118007 said:
:laugh2:

or should I be politically aghast?

I've seen "redneck" on this forum more than once, so I went for it. Also, I can make fun of my own.
 

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Sorry. My bad.

Forgot this.

:sarcasm:

So difficult to convey over the internet.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2117969 said:
Asthma, this whole argument is ********

Maybe because you're against it. I've backed up my position with the only credible data available while you throw out opinion and then make up reasons for it.

Bob Sacamano said:
Stash wants to throw Matt's "impressive" stats to the table when he'll be stepping into a totally different situation in Dallas, he wont' be among the top 3 receiving targets like he was in Jax

He wasn't top 3 in Jacksonville last season, the only one you seem so fixed on using in ethe discussion.

Bob Sacamano said:
hell, we haven't even got into the repoire him and Tony will need, so that he can get opportunities, he always looks for TO and Witten heavily, ignoring Crayton and the 3rd guy alot, I remember some wide open Austin and Hurd routes where Romo had already committed to Witten, and Barber is his checkdown guy, one offseason is going to solve that?

Oh great, lets all speculate on how much time it will take. Or how many times Romo will look for the 'new guy', then use those against him too. Guess we'd better never draft a receiver or sign a free agent again either....

:rolleyes:

Bob Sacamano said:
thinking that Matt Jones' stats will all of a sudden translate here is ludicrous

Not as ludicrous as using a whole lotta nothing to say they won't.

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improvement? wishful thinking

At least it's based on the information available instead of the wishful thinking and finger crossing from the other side.

:pray: :crossed:
 

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Bob Sacamano;2118016 said:
all I needed was a smiley, Richard:p:


:lmao:

Subtlety was never a strong suit of mine.

I see you, however, have it down pat.

Very nicely done.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2117980 said:
I'm sorry

but seriously, I would have no problem w/ adding Matt Jones, as I wouldn't be expecting much of him, my problem is the overglorification of the guy

he would start over Crayton? a dependable, chain-mover? please

You talk as if Crayton is some great 'find' in Dallas.

He's a decent posession receiver with a Pro Bowl mouth.

He starts because Dallas currently has no other option, the same reason he did last year.

"Dependable chain mover" what, a glorious compliment!

Sounds like something that'll keep opposing defense up nights!

Crayton gets overvalued just like any other Cowboys player does.

You talk like replacing him would be a big deal.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2117983 said:
yes, I'm laughing at the idea that Matt Jones could start over Patrick Crayton

You do that.

Over the same period of their respective careers, Jones' numbers showed that he was better.

Ignorance is bliss after all.

But Crayton falls into a starting role through no fault of his own and suddenly he's a 'star'?

I'm not even proposing that Jones take Crayton's role.

I couldn't care if you called either one #2 and #3, as long as the team was improved, I'd be happy.
 

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stasheroo;2118015 said:
Maybe because you're against it. I've backed up my position with the onlt creidble date available while you throw out opinion and then make up reasons for it.

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stasheroo said:
He wasn't top 3 in Jacksonville last season, the only one you seem so fixed on using in ethe discussion.

that's right, he got phased out, my b

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Oh great, lets all speculate on how much time it will take. Or how many times Romo will look for the 'new guy', then use those against him too. Guess we'd better never draft a receiver or sign a free agent again either....

:rolleyes:

dude, you're trying to make the case that Matt Jones will be an automatic improvement

you think a QB is going to look alot ot someone he's not comfortable w/?

I'm giving you another in a long list of mountains that Matt Jones has to overcome to do that, and it's not like he's an established vet, where he can just step right in and assimilate everything in a fast enough time-frame, he's still struggling learning how to be an NFL receiver

stasheroo said:
Not as ludicrous as using a whole lotta nothing to say they won't.



At least it's based on the information available instead of the wishful thinking and finger crossing from the other side.

:pray: :crossed:

that doesn't even make any sense

I have no expectations for Matt Jones
 

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bbgun;2117987 said:
What is this? Honky Solidarity Month? Eduncan had his flaws, but at least he directed his praise at a member of the active roster.

Just showing that I'm not happy with this team's number of question marks at receiver and I'm trying to come up with a solution.
 

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stasheroo;2118032 said:
Just showing that I'm not happy with this team's number of question marks at receiver and I'm trying to come up with a solution.

a bottom-feeder from another roster is not a solution

"the sooner, the better", while each day is passing by...
 

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bbgun;2117993 said:
I'm just amused that anyone could be so passionate about a player as nondescript as Jones. This isn't Jerry Rice in his prime hitting the open market.

No, it's a guy who's 25 years old and still making the transaition to wide receiver.

It's a guy who put up good numbers learning on the job.

It's a guy with more physical abilities than anyone on this team not named Owens.

If the guy is 'so bad' how did he manage to get into the endzone more than so many more highly-regarded receivers? Luck?
 

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Bob Sacamano;2118034 said:
a bottom-feeder from another roster is not a solution

"the sooner, the better", while each day is passing by...

No, crossing your fingers on status quo is.

You do that.

I'll look for improvement.
 

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stasheroo;2118037 said:
No, crossing your fingers on status quo is.

You do that.

I'll look for improvement.

I haven't done that, so...

someone else's trash is not always treasure
 

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stasheroo;2118035 said:
No, it's a guy who's 25 years old and still making the transaition to wide receiver.

It's a guy who put up good numbers learning on the job.

It's a guy with more physical abilities than anyone on this team not named Owens.

If the guy is 'so bad' how did he manage to get into the endzone more than so many more highly-regarded receivers? Luck?

by default

that pretty much sums up Matt Jones' whole career up to this point
 

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Bob Sacamano;2118038 said:
I haven't done that, so...

someone else's trash is not always treasure

No, it's not.

And I'm not guaranteeing Jones would be some Pro Bowler here.

I'm not guaranteeing that he would replace Crayton.

I'm not even guaranteeing Jones would make the roster.

Heck, I'm not guaranteeing anything.

I'm merely suggesting that he might make this team better.

If he doesn't, you cut him, shrug your shoulders and say you gave it a shot.

You're no worse off than you were before, save a 6th round draft pick.

That's not much considering what this team has coming next year.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2118039 said:
by default

that pretty much sums up Matt Jones' whole career up to this point

All those starting opportunities and all that Matt Jones was given, right?

:rolleyes:
 

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stasheroo;2118050 said:
No, it's not.

And I'm not guaranteeing Jones would be some Pro Bowler here.

I'm not guaranteeing that he would replace Crayton.

I'm not even guaranteeing Jones would make the roster.

Heck, I'm not guaranteeing anything.

I'm merely suggesting that he might make this team better.

If he doesn't, you cut him, shrug your shoulders and say you gave it a shot.

You're no worse off than you were before, save a 6th round draft pick.

That's not much considering what this team has coming next year.

there you go, no issue w/ that at all, the only issue I have is this crap that Matt Jones is somehow a solution

mentioning that the inconsistent Jones will replace the reliable Patrick Crayton is just laughable

stasheroo;2118052 said:
All those starting opportunities and all that Matt Jones was given, right?

:rolleyes:

Matt Jones had opportunities and made some plays

nothing special about it, so having more TD passes than Reggie Wayne had at this point in time means jack, because hes not Reggie Wayne, or Donald Driver, not even close, and it doesn't look like he's going to reach that level any time soon
 
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