DMN Blog: Cowboys could make room for Matt Jones

[Stash]

Yeah, they were so impressed with him that they imported Joey Porter and Troy "couldn't catch a cold" Williamson.

They also imported those guys over the other receivers they had too.

The other guys in Jacksonville who somehow haven't stepped up either.

The guys who actually played the position in college.

Jones isn't blameless, but the Jaguars aren't either.

 

[Woods]

If you traded for him, you'd be getting a cap friendly deal.

Jones' upcoming salaries are $625,000, and $565,000.

Stasheroo,

You've convinced me. I'm calling JJ and getting this thang done!

 

[dooomsday]

This is all pretty simple. Jones has 3 more regular season touchdowns than Harper in the first three seasons of their careers, we get it. That doesn't make Jones better than Harper.

You're so obsessed with regular season stats, yet you choose to continually ignore Harper's 4th and best regular season with Dallas (where he averaged 25 YPC and had 8 TDs). That is pretty indicative of your transparent agenda.

The fact that Harper played with so many stars makes his numbers even more impressive. There were only so many balls to go around - playing in a run first offense with Emmitt, Moose, Irvin, Novacek, etc.

The speculation that Matt Jones might be the best receiver in Jacksonville is more of an indictment on that franchise than it is an endorsement for Jones.

Qunicy Morgan started his career better than both!

Jones wasnt even close to their best. Wilford is much better. And as hard as Reggie Williams tried to be the bigger bust, he wasnt. Northcutt was also better after being added.

 

[Kilyin]

Qunicy Morgan started his career better than both!

Jones wasnt even close to their best. Wilford is much better. And as hard as Reggie Williams tried to be the bigger bust, he wasnt. Northcutt was also better after being added.

I don't necessarily agree with the assumption that Jones is the best receiver in Jacksonville either... the speculation I was referring to was meant to characterize Stash and his handful of Matt Jones minions.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Stash has converted me, bring Jones in.

dude, don't encourage him

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Crayton wasn't a big deal until injury and lack of options forced him into a starting role last season. It wasn't like Crayton pushed anyone out of the #2 role, he got it because Glenn was injured and Dallas had no other options at the time.

and that's somehow different from Jax forcing Matt Jones to start because he was a 1st round pick?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Is it?

When the misinformed make foolish comments, they need a dose of reality to set them straight.

No, Matt Jones is no Alvin Harper, his numbers say he's better.

Better despite not having played receiver in college like Harper did.

Better despite not playing with the Hall of Famers Harper did.

better in the fact that Harper was lured away to be a starter in Tampa Bay, while Matt Jones is being seemingly pushed out of Jacksonville?

based on what he's done...or hasn't

stepped up

 

[dooomsday]

I don't necessarily agree with the assumption that Jones is the best receiver in Jacksonville either... the speculation I was referring to was meant to characterize Stash and his handful of Matt Jones minions.

LOL. I know. I was following up. Matt Jones was NOT their best wr.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Well, there is really no reason not to try Matt out. Say what you want about his past, but we cant really say any of our scrubs (with little to no experience) are any better at this point.

Sure you can look in silver and blue glasses, say what those guys could/might/would do, but really noone has a clue. At least Matt has done something in an NFL game, unlike the our current cast of scrubs.

And there is also that possiblity that he might turn the corner with all the athletic talent he has.......I mean if you think that someone like Miles can, I don't understand how you can possiblity say Matt can't....maybe you have a crystal ball. Just cause Miles is a current Cowboy doesn't mean he has anymore of a chance to turn that corner, maybe this thought exists cause you haven't seen enough of how much Miles (or insert name here) sucks.

Bring him in, if he sucks, cut him. Pretty simple really.

you keep saying scrubs, but you hardly got a chance to see them

but then you were probably one of the many who had Romo as a scrub in the back of your mind because Dallas didn't press for him to play, just like they arent pressing our young, DEVELOPING receivers to either

Matt Jones has been receiving alot of attention for the past 3 years, and has one foot in the grave over in Jacksonville

 

[AsthmaField]

Stash has converted me, bring Jones in.

He's converted me too... kind of. I don't like Matt Jones still, but now I can't stand Harper.

******! :bang2:

 

[Stash]

Stasheroo,

You've convinced me. I'm calling JJ and getting this thang done!

Welcome aboard man!

:cheers:

 

[Stash]

better in the fact that Harper was lured away to be a starter in Tampa Bay, while Matt Jones is being seemingly pushed out of Jacksonville?

based on what he's done...or hasn't

stepped up

Maybe if that same guy was still running things in Tampa, he'd be jumping on this?

Plenty of players looks better playing for a winner.

You and I both know that.

How many guys cashed in as free agents from those teams and busted when they left?

A bunch.

I didn't make the numbers up, I simply pointed them out to show the misinformed that if you're gonna call one guy a bust you'd better say it about both.

 

[Stash]

you keep saying scrubs, but you hardly got a chance to see them

'Scrubs' is demeaning, I would call them unknowns.

but then you were probably one of the many who had Romo as a scrub in the back of your mind because Dallas didn't press for him to play, just like they arent pressing our young, DEVELOPING receivers to either

Matt Jones has been receiving alot of attention for the past 3 years, and has one foot in the grave over in Jacksonville

One of many NFL players in a bad situation who may benefit from a change of scenery, it happens all the time.

Or he may not benefit, not much of a risk to find out.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Maybe if that same guy was still running things in Tampa, he'd be jumping on this?

probably not

Plenty of players looks better playing for a winner.

Jax isn't exactly a loser

You and I both know that.

How many guys cashed in as free agents from those teams and busted when they left?

A bunch.

that's not the point, the point is that the perception of Alvin Harper was good while he was in Dallas

Matt Jones is a guy who is coming off a season where he was deactivated

I didn't make the numbers up, I simply pointed them out to show the misinformed that if you're gonna call one guy a bust you'd better say it about both.

how does it help Matt Jones' case if he's similar to a bust?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Or he may not benefit, not much of a risk to find out.

we don't have the time to make that risk

we're not going to be starting all over again when we have already invested 2 years in 2 receivers, and 1 year in another

we just wasted 2 years, if we bring in Matt Jones, and he won't do enough on the field to rectify it since he'll be the 4th option in the passing game, at best

hell, he might not even be that w/ Barber and Felix Jones being good pass-receivers, and we invested a 2nd round pick on Martellus Bennett to boot, and will probably employ alot of 2-TE sets

 

[starfrombirth]

I'll eat whatever 'crow' makes anyone happy.

I had an idea and gave it a shot.

It would be disappointing if they didn't get another option at receiver more than anything.

I can handle getting ribbed on the internet.

I understand where your coming from but I would like the guys that have shed blood, sweat, and tears going thru the growing pains with our 'boys to get a real shot. See, I believe that Austin does have talent but it's hard to be seen in T.O.'s and Glenn's shadow and he had a HUGE learning curve. This is now his 3rd season and I think/believe that this will bear out. Stanback was a project and we all knew that but I wouldn't mind him coming in and beating out Crayton or Hurd but I don't think he'll like that much.

 

[Romo2Bryant4Six]

Miles Austin will be our number two....Stanbeck # 3, and P Crayton #4....
I hope...

did Miles Austin take some kind of pill that now makes him legitimate???..lol it will be #2 T.Glenn #3 Crayton #4 Hurd..i'm still waiting to see on Stanback

 

[Stash]

Jax isn't exactly a loser

They're success doesn't come close to comparing to the Dallas teams of the 90's, don't be foolish.

that's not the point, the point is that the perception of Alvin Harper was good while he was in Dallas

So now 'perception' trumps reality? Maybe for some people.

Matt Jones is a guy who is coming off a season where he was deactivated

Yep. Following the season when he led his team in receiving. Some 'opportunity' there.....

how does it help Matt Jones' case if he's similar to a bust?

So you believe Harper was a bust?

I don't.

 

[Stash]

we don't have the time to make that risk

What 'risk'? He's already proven more than the complete unknowns here.

we're not going to be starting all over again when we have already invested 2 years in 2 receivers, and 1 year in another

Yeah, why try to improve your team when you've got time invested in these guys? That makes a lot of sense. So if they contribute nothing after this season, do they keep them because they now have 3 seasons invested?

we just wasted 2 years, if we bring in Matt Jones, and he won't do enough on the field to rectify it since he'll be the 4th option in the passing game, at best

Where do you get that from? I guess there's no point in ever trying to improve the team.

hell, he might not even be that w/ Barber and Felix Jones being good pass-receivers, and we invested a 2nd round pick on Martellus Bennett to boot, and will probably employ alot of 2-TE sets

Great, more complete unknowns who are suddenly 'superstars' who couldn't possibly be beat out for playing time by Matt Jones......

 

[Bob Sacamano]

They're success doesn't come close to comparing to the Dallas teams of the 90's, don't be foolish.

Super Bowl or not, Jacksonville was a very good team last year, and Matt Jones was deactivated and has fallen out of favor

if he was good, a team trying to make a Championship run wouldn't bring in people to improve upon him, and he wouldn't be on the bubble

So now 'perception' trumps reality? Maybe for some people.

look closely, the reality is that Matt Jones is struggling at the bottom of the receiving rubble in Jacksonville

the point is that despite Matt Jones having better statistics than Alvin Harper, AH actually was recruited to be a #1 WR, Matt Jones is just fighting to survive an NFL roster

Yep. Following the season when he led his team in receiving. Some 'opportunity' there.....

being a leading receiver on a crappy passing offense, w/ other crappy receivers

that sounds like more like default than actually accomplishing anything

So you believe Harper was a bust?

I wasn't.

ultimately

yes, when he had to stand alone, he busted