DMN Blog: Crayton's deal could be next

[McCordsville Cowboy]

I like Crayton, but dont ever compare him to Wayne. He's only superior to him in hands and not dropping as many balls, that's it. Wayne's deeper and does a better job of getting open vertically. Crayton cant even get past your average corner in single coverage. Let's see him catch 6 passes for 100+ yards and 2 TD's without T.O. and Glenn on the field, then talk.

Finally! Voice of Reason

 

[AmishCowboy]

There is nothing wrong with Locking up one of our starters to a decent contract, hopefully, Hamlin is next.

 

[conner01]

Yah..!!! We win!!!!

Blow loot on a 30 year old with 4.65 speed who holds the ball like a loaf of bread!

Especially when you have more important people to sign or have money for like Canty, Flo, Hamlin and the Barbarion..

Stupid move if it happens. Let him walk and let BP pay him 3 million a year

you obviously under estimate craytons value to the team. he has great hands,gets open, and is a decent punt returner who does'nt make mistakes. he is a good enough player to be a #2 on most teams as he has here all season.he moves the chains and thats whats really important

 

[The Panch]

you obviously under estimate craytons value to the team. he has great hands,gets open, and is a decent punt returner who does'nt make mistakes. he is a good enough player to be a #2 on most teams as he has here all season.he moves the chains and thats whats really important

He sucks at returning punts. There's nothing decent about a fair catch here and a leaving holes wide open there.

 

[sacase]

I like Crayton, but dont ever compare him to Wayne. He's only superior to him in hands and not dropping as many balls, that's it. Wayne's deeper and does a better job of getting open vertically. Crayton cant even get past your average corner in single coverage. Let's see him catch 6 passes for 100+ yards and 2 TD's without T.O. and Glenn on the field, then talk.

Go back and read what I wrote. I said, he is NOT like Wayne who is a #2 waiting to be a #1. Crayton is just a #2 and that is it.

I actually think Wayne is a #1 and Harrison is a #2 much like TO and Glenn.

 

[Natedawg44]

If you want to resign Crayton and Hamlin. Just tell me which of the following you are not going to sign?
Flo?- Think its a good idea to let a pro bowl Left Tackle on a number 1 seed walk?
Barber? You think Tyson Thompson is ready?
Canty? Because Spears is so dominant
Ware? Ellis has at least 4 more years right?
Newman? CB is way overrated, we've got Alan Ball.

Hamlin and Crayton are luxuries not needs at this point. Crayton is basically a 28 year old David Patten. I would rather use that money to take care of the real priorities. We already pay a bundle for Newman, Henry and Williams. Its not wise to break the bank on all four positions and Hamlin will get a very good deal, 26 year old probowl safeties do.

 

[BigDFan5]

If you want to resign Crayton and Hamlin. Just tell me which of the following you are not going to sign?
Flo?- Think its a good idea to let a pro bowl Left Tackle on a number 1 seed walk?
Barber? You think Tyson Thompson is ready?
Canty? Because Spears is so dominant
Ware? Ellis has at least 4 more years right?
Newman? CB is way overrated, we've got Alan Ball.

Hamlin and Crayton are luxuries not needs at this point. Crayton is basically a 28 year old David Patten. I would rather use that money to take care of the real priorities. We already pay a bundle for Newman, Henry and Williams. Its not wise to break the bank on all four positions and Hamlin will get a very good deal, 26 year old probowl safeties do.

why are you naming players we dont need to resign right now because they are not FA's?

Canty, Ware, Newman? None of them are FA's

Barber is a RFA and will be tendered high he isnt going anywhere

Hamlin is a pro bowl safety on a #1 seed

The only person you named who will be a treu FA is Flozel, and signing Hamlin and Crayton will not prevent us from signing him

 

[The Panch]

Go back and read what I wrote. I said, he is NOT like Wayne who is a #2 waiting to be a #1. Crayton is just a #2 and that is it.

I actually think Wayne is a #1 and Harrison is a #2 much like TO and Glenn.

I dont agree with that assessment. Dont get me wrong, Wayne is only getting better and better, but he hasnt surpassed Harrison overall. Its more of a 1A/1B type of thing and they're better than each other in certain areas. Wayne's harder to throw off routes with his physicality and can catch an air ball with the best of em, but Harrison creates better separation with better routes and is a little faster off the snap and that says a lot for his age. And like I said, Wayne's got some butter fingers and even when he has possession, its often easy to force a fumble.

 

[Natedawg44]

why are you naming players we dont need to resign right now because they are not FA's?

Canty, Ware, Newman? None of them are FA's

Barber is a RFA and will be tendered high he isnt going anywhere

Hamlin is a pro bowl safety on a #1 seed

The only person you named who will be a treu FA is Flozel, and signing Hamlin and Crayton will not prevent us from signing him

Canty is a RFA and what you do now certainly effects what you can do later on. If you don't sign Barber to an extension now, what are you going to do with him as a full time starter and a 1300 or 1400 yard season next year as a UFA? Ware and Newman are both going to be due extensions next year otherwise be prepared to pay alot more later. We made our bed with Roy, now we have to live with it. The Colts are a good example if you want to keep a team intact you have to set your priorities and stick with them. If you think you can replace someone with a cheaper player and get similar production you do it. Edge, Marcus Washington, Mike Peterson, Cato June, Jason David. Paying a #3 WR number 2 money is not one way to do it and breaking the bank for a safety is another.

 

[Big Dakota]

I dont agree with that assessment. Dont get me wrong, Wayne is only getting better and better, but he hasnt surpassed Harrison overall. Its more of a 1A/1B type of thing and they're better than each other in certain areas. Wayne's harder to throw off routes with his physicality and can catch an air ball with the best of em, but Harrison's a little faster and that says alot for his age. And like I said, Wayne's got some butter fingers and even when he has possession, its often easy to force a fumble.

My friend has been a Colts fan since 1964 and he follows them daily like we do the Boys. He claims there are strong rumors lately surrounding Harrison and his possible retirement after this season. It will be interesting to see how that unfolds.

 

[The Panch]

My friend has been a Colts fan since 1964 and he follows them daily like we do the Boys. He claims there are strong rumors lately surrounding Harrison and his possible retirement after this season. It will be interesting to see how that unfolds.

There was the exact same rumors about TG because of his knee and age. Im not saying TG or Harrison wont retire after this season(especially Glenn if he can finally get a SB trophy), but until I see it happen, I wont bank on it.

 

[Crown Royal]

This thread is laughable. Laughable in that people fail to recognize what crayton brings to the team. I can't believe I actually saw him being called a 'luxury.'

Terry Glenn was a luxury, in that he could play as a number 1. Anyone who wants to see Crayton gone had better present a plan to either match or improve the second WR position. Keep in mind that before you answer with Hurd or Austin, that by Crayton's second year he had already amassed better stats than either of these guys, and that was with TO, Witten and Glenn.

 

[burmafrd]

The number of Hapers catches directly comes from the times and the team: the NFL back then was still much more un oriented; and Irvin and Novacek were the primary pass receivers. Harper was third choice. Just like Crayton was third choice behind TO and Witten. BUT we throw a lot more now so his catches are comparable to Harpers.
Crayton is a bit of a luxury but I am sure Stephen has been massaging the numbers so that they can do Crayton as well as Hamlin and who ever else they want to keep. I really think Crayton makes an excellant #3, but only a OK #2.

 

[Crown Royal]

The number of Hapers catches directly comes from the times and the team: the NFL back then was still much more un oriented; and Irvin and Novacek were the primary pass receivers. Harper was third choice. Just like Crayton was third choice behind TO and Witten. BUT we throw a lot more now so his catches are comparable to Harpers.
Crayton is a bit of a luxury but I am sure Stephen has been massaging the numbers so that they can do Crayton as well as Hamlin and who ever else they want to keep. I really think Crayton makes an excellant #3, but only a OK #2.

Again, I don't see how crayton is a 'luxury.' Terry Glenn was a luxury. A good number 2 is a necessity, a great one is a luxury.

 

[big dog cowboy]

There is nothing wrong with Locking up one of our starters to a decent contract

If Terry Glenn stays healthy all year, Crayton doesn't sniff the starting lineup.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

The number of Hapers catches directly comes from the times and the team: the NFL back then was still much more un oriented; and Irvin and Novacek were the primary pass receivers. Harper was third choice. Just like Crayton was third choice behind TO and Witten. BUT we throw a lot more now so his catches are comparable to Harpers.
Crayton is a bit of a luxury but I am sure Stephen has been massaging the numbers so that they can do Crayton as well as Hamlin and who ever else they want to keep. I really think Crayton makes an excellant #3, but only a OK #2.

The league has been pass oriented since the late 1980s, in my opinion. And we should note that being pass oriented is a double-edged sword: Although Crayton may receive increased opportunities, he's also contending with defenses focused on stopping the pass. Harper, on the other hand, benefitted from 8 mans fronts and the expectation of run.

 

[AmishCowboy]

why are you naming players we dont need to resign right now because they are not FA's?

Canty, Ware, Newman? None of them are FA's

Barber is a RFA and will be tendered high he isnt going anywhere

Hamlin is a pro bowl safety on a #1 seed

The only person you named who will be a treu FA is Flozel, and signing Hamlin and Crayton will not prevent us from signing him

 

[AmishCowboy]

If Terry Glenn stays healthy all year, Crayton doesn't sniff the starting lineup.

Agreed, but IMO, Glenn is done after this season.

 

[The Panch]

Agreed, but IMO, Glenn is done after this season.

Contracts arent signed based off opinion.

 

[AmishCowboy]

Contracts arent signed based off opinion.

No, but at his age and injury status it might be time to look forward if it's not to big a cap hit.