DMN Blog: Ellis: Roy doesn't think defense fits him

[jumanji]

most people that suck start making excuses. the first one usually is "the defense doesn't fit me"

 

[DaBoys4Life]

most people that suck start making excuses. the first one usually is "the defense doesn't fit me"

your name is jumanji

 

[DallasFanSince86]

yea because this is the same defense we had his rookie year? He was the sole play maker on defense back then because the plays are not their is because some one else is making the plays. RW has not been the shining star in Dallas since DWare has come here. Thats isn't a knock on RW just saying that their is more than one play maker now. Aslong as he continues to put up 90+ tackles and such I don't see how he wouldn't stay a cowboy.

Quit making sense.:

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Also I am not to sure if many people know this however RW didn't learn how to read until his senior year of college so it kind of makes since for him to take a while to adjust to a new defensive scheme.

 

[Rampage]

Also I am not to sure if many people know this however RW didn't learn how to read until his senior year of college so it kind of makes since for him to take a while to adjust to a new defensive scheme.

:laugh2: that's a funny excuse

 

[Eskimo]

When you're playing Linebacker in nickel packages, you should have a few sacks. Especially playing under a defense coach that loves to sends exotic blitz packages in nickel situations like Wade Phillips.

Unfortunately, Roy more often than not gets stonewalled by 190 lbs. running backs in blitz protection.

Roy definitely doesn't go into attack mode on the blitz. He kind of goes half-speed and then puts his hands on the RB and goes nowhere. It is actually pretty typical of his lackadaisical tackling and attempts to cover.

 

[Alexander]

Actually, you're completely mistaken. I've never used those stats alone to defend Roy. And I seriously doubt Adam would do something so stupid either.

Apparently, you haven't been paying much attention then.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

most people that suck start making excuses. the first one usually is "the defense doesn't fit me"

I just realized his jersey doesnt fit me any more...:laugh2:

 

[Hoofbite]

Player A: 5 INTs, 57 Tackles, 21 PDs
Player B: 4 INTs, 50 Tackles, 14 PDs

One player was the 5th overall pick in the draft and the other went completely undrafted.

Player A is Roderick Hood and Player B is Terence Newman. Who would you rather have?

Looking at those statistics alone for judging secondary is just ignorant.

I'm not defending Roy here, but if you're going to criticize a player, at least don't be stupid about it.

Good call. I was thinking the same thing. You could apply such a comparison to nearly every position and to a number of players at each position.

Look at some of the players on the Dallas roster. Romo, Barber, Hamlin, Ratliff. All those players before last season were working on rock bottom deals and you can compare any of those guys to the top guys at their position for last season and I bet Dallas got the most "bang for their buck".

Im not defending Roy and will readily admit hes been playing poorly. I wouldn't however go out and trade him out for Chris Crocker. Maybe I'm being a homer and too much of a Roy fan but I think he can play at a higher level and I expect that he will have a better year. No player wants to be the weak link on the team. For his 1st 2 or 3 seasons, Roy was one of the best players on the entire team. Did he get complacent and start to take things for granted and neglect what got him there? Maybe. In fact, if I had to guess, that would be what I think has caused him to lose his edge. Combined with a shoulder injury last year and you see a more reserved player whos whole game was geared towards never slowing down and running through people and he couldn't do it anymore. I know I never saw a injury report for him but beginning in Buffalo he started hanging that shoulder and it was there for the rest of the season. Call it an excuse, call it what you will but Im convinced he was playing wounded last season.

All that said, Im giving the guy another year. Not because I have a Roy Jersey hanging in my closet (if I did, I'd be pissed at that number change) but because I know that if he can regain some of the form he showed early in his career, it would be one of the best things that could happen to the team. Wishful thinking or not, Im holding out hope for another year. Stupidity, delusional or just homeristic, call it what you will but if it doesn't work out, at least I'm not one of the few who refused to give up on a player who sucked like Jacques Reeves, Quincy Carter or Julius Jones. And at least Im not one of the hopeless few who jumped head first into the Drew Henson orgy and never came out.

 

[EPL0c0]

I sympathize with Roy... it's tough fitting ANY defense that requires you to do things like...defend the pass.

It was fun while it lasted but out ya go!

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I sympathize with Roy... it's tough fitting ANY defense that requires you to do things like...defend the pass.

It was fun while it lasted but out ya go!

I don't think he has trouble defending the pass just playing man to man with the best TE's in the NFL. I mean Champ Bailey can cover dallas clark one on one.......

 

[jobberone]

Good Lord.

 

[trickblue]

Chances are that a WR could trip over the spoon, thereby giving the spoon a tackle equaling the one tackle that Roy made in our playoff game.

Philly once played a silverware setting at DL against us. Hambrick never got past the line of scrimmage...

 

[newlander]

i'm with the majority here: Ellis is a knucklehead as usual. Even though what he's saying is true, you just DON'T say it in an interview: he's a cancer. Talented, but a cancer nonetheless: and so is Roy. two peas in a pod for sure.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Philly once played a silverware setting at DL against us. Hambrick never got past the line of scrimmage...

:laugh2:

 

[Wrangler87]

"Now maybe this year, if they decide to keep him for this season, Wade and them will kind of adjust some things to fit him better."

This is a very telling statement by Ellis. If they decide to keep him for this season? Does Ellis know something we don't? I thought it was a foregone conclusion that Williams will be a Cowboy this year, due to his contract. Ellis talks like there is some question about it.

 

[BuckyG]

Horrible situation for the Cowboys. I don't know if you can just bench Roy completely. if you do, who steps in? Not only that, but there's the issue of a guy with that kind of contract riding the bench. We've just got to live with Roy for a while longer. :bang2:

Ken Hamlin would make an excellent strong safety, in fact I've always thought it was his natural position. He's a light's-out hitter who can cover. Move Henry to free safety if the young corners develop and/or if Jones works out. If not, use Pat Watkins.

The NFL is a passing league now. The quasi-linebacker role for strong safety is a bit of an anachronism. DBs prime directive today is that they must be able to cover. Williams can't. He's a quality person, but he's never developed NFL coverage skills. In fact, it seems that since they've made the horse collar illegal, he's just fallen off the table as a player.

 

[Chief]

Roy said before the 2002 draft that he was only interested in playing football for about 5 years.

That's pretty much what has happened, but he's still hanging around collecting a paycheck.

Here it is in a nutshell and I've posted his several times before: Football is not important to Roy.

Nothing wrong with that. But if that's the way he feels, then he needs to retire.

 

[Clove]

RW can be a great SS for another team I think the scheme is the problem. we're asking him to do all of this crazy stuff like cover TE's and play decent zone and once in a while line up aginst a WR Oh and to stop the run when needed. he should go to a team who doesn't want any of those things...i think he would be much more comfortable there

:laugh2:

 

[Crad|e]

i hate to say it but its time for roy to go... this year. hes going to have another pathetic season. no big hits and missing tackles.. lets not even go into his pass d.