DMN Blog: Every Single Ellis Play

[Doctor32]

LOL @ the "you haven't been here long enough" card being played by a mod. That always makes 'em feel welcomed!

I feel welcome.

 

[superpunk]

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[WoodysGirl]

No ma'aam, I belive I just did offer the alternative opinion with appropriate backup. He listed every play, the result, and furthermore how the graded or isolated player effected or was involved or not involved by being accounted for by the offense.

Again McMahon's blog, while in-depth, is no more or no less than what the average blogger (which he is, BTW) does.

No one has done that in their posts titled GAME FILM REVIEW - no one.

If so, then it's great that McMahone attempts to offer something different.

The argument that I haven't been a member of this particular message board for several years - this lame seniority card that you and several others find so clever by pulling out really has no scoring on your argument's side whatsoever.

It's not about pulling a seniority card. I just think you're ill-informed in your opinion. But alas, your entitled to it.

Nor does it affect me at all. McMahon did in very short order what none of the repeat offenders of the GAME FILM REVIEW gang have done yet this season or last. If you really want to put something in your war pipe to smoke, we can go over this week's offerings from Grizz, YRich and others - comapred to what Tim did. Their time and effort are not at question.

At first, I didn't understand why you're so hostile towards those guy's offerings, but I get it now. You just appreciate what Tim did, because it's in one of the papers that covers the 'boys. If Rich, Grizz, et al were to be hired by one of the beat papers, then you'd change your tune quick. What if I told you that Vela's and Grizz's, I believe, is linked to the MySa blog? See, apparently, the professionals respect their work.

I feel welcome.

You really should. I haven't done a thing to make you feel unwelcome, other than challenge your viewpoint.

 

[Doctor32]

At first, I didn't understand why you're so hostile towards those guy's offerings, but I get it now. You just appreciate what Tim did, because it's in one of the papers that covers the 'boys. If Rich, Grizz, et al were to be hired by one of the beat papers, then you'd change your tune quick. What if I told you that Vela's and Grizz's, I believe, is linked to the MySa blog? See, apparently, the professionals respect their work..

Nice try Chica, but alas you're incorrect in that assumption. He could be in Creede, Colorado or Lacey, Washington for all I care. It really makes no difference if he's a writer or a regular fan.

What if I tould you that what a writer at any newspaper deems source worthy material doesn't mean a thing to me or hold any weight in this argument. If a writer uses Grizz's Game Film Reviewsm then the editor should question his employees work ethics. Period.

The bottom line is this. Tim McMahon isolated 1 player. He reviewed the game and reported it accurately. He did not leave out sacks and tackles for loss unlike your lil buddy did last week.

 

[theogt]

Nice try Chica, but alas you're incorrect in that assumption. He could be in Creede, Colorado or Lacey, Washington for all I care. It really makes no difference if he's a writer or a regular fan.

What if I tould you that what a writer at any newspaper deems source worthy material doesn't mean a thing to me or hold any weight in this argument. If a writer uses Grizz's Game Film Reviewsm then the editor should question his employees work ethics. Period.

The bottom line is this. Tim McMahon isolated 1 player. He reviewed the game and reported it accurately. He did not leave out sacks and tackles for loss unlike your lil buddy did last week.

Hey, I like Tim. I think he's a fine reporter that gets ragged on way too much around here. His blog has been much more informative than his predecessor.

But simply typing up what happened on every snap that Ellis was in isn't really doing much. It's not analysis, by any means. It's simply stating what happened.

If it helps you to have someone state what happened during the play, then I'm glad he helped you.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Nice try Chica, but alas you're incorrect in that assumption. He could be in Creede, Colorado or Lacey, Washington for all I care. It really makes no difference if he's a writer or a regular fan.

What if I tould you that what a writer at any newspaper deems source worthy material doesn't mean a thing to me or hold any weight in this argument. If a writer uses Grizz's Game Film Reviewsm then the editor should question his employees work ethics. Period.

Honestly, I don't believe you, which is my right to do. You have a serious issue with fan bloggers and to attribute that to because they use the TV broadcast as a source is pretty ridiculous. That's all fans have access to. If one of the regular guys had posted something similar to what MacMahon had posted, you still would've slammed it.

The bottom line is this. Tim McMahon isolated 1 player. He reviewed the game and reported it accurately. He did not leave out sacks and tackles for loss unlike your lil buddy did last week.

No one is knocking the effort for what Tim posted. It's actually a decent read for what it is. But it's funny because you're holding it up as some great accomplishment and you don't even know if he used the TV broadcast or not. McMahon is not the first blogger to do it, nor will he be the last. And it's like theogt said, it's not like he provided any analysis behind the breakdown. That tends to hold more value, in my eyes, than a simple gamecenter-style breakdown.

 

[Doctor32]

Hey, I like Tim. I think he's a fine reporter that gets ragged on way too much around here. His blog has been much more informative than his predecessor.

But simply typing up what happened on every snap that Ellis was in isn't really doing much. It's not analysis, by any means. It's simply stating what happened.

If it helps you to have someone state what happened during the play, then I'm glad he helped you.

The bottom line is this. Tim McMahon isolated 1 player. He reviewed the game and reported it accurately. He did not leave out sacks and tackles for loss unlike your lil buddy did last week.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Having an opinion that doesn't fall in line with yours doesn't make anyone a "poser" or poster - as you so eloquently put it. Enjoy your weekly game film review. I'm still allowed to criticize the method.

You sound like one of those people that think a 'blog' has more credibility than people just posting on a message board. Youre impressed by pomp and circumstance so be it.

At that same time, hes not saying your opinion is not valid because it disagrees with his but rather there is no way that you could have enough experience at least on this board of the quality of the game observation posts to be able to have an informed opnion.

Sure there are some hacks that do writeups here but there are also some very informed posters as well. the key is figuring that out but blanket statements such as yours just show someone who sounds bitter.

That being said Id rather read Vela's writeups than anyone who is being paid to cover the Cowboys anyday and twice on Sundays.

 

[theogt]

The bottom line is this. Tim McMahon isolated 1 player. He reviewed the game and reported it accurately. He did not leave out sacks and tackles for loss unlike your lil buddy did last week.

Sure, that's exactly what he did. But it's hardly impressive and it certainly isn't the same sort of "analysis" that is provided by Grizz, Vela, and others weekly.

By the way, what in particular are you referring to re: left out sacks and TFLs?

 

[WoodysGirl]

Sure, that's exactly what he did. But it's hardly impressive and it certainly isn't the same sort of "analysis" that is provided by Grizz, Vela, and others weekly.

By the way, what in particular are you referring to re: left out sacks and TFLs?

He's referring to Rich's post on the defense last week. He kinda yawned on Spencer's performance.

And I agree with you Fuzzy about Vela. Love reading his stuff.

 

[Doctor32]

Honestly, I don't believe you, which is my right to do. You have a serious issue with fan bloggers and to attribute that to because they use the TV broadcast as a source is pretty ridiculous. That's all fans have access to. If one of the regular guys had posted something similar to what MacMahon had posted, you still would've slammed it.

No one is knocking the effort for what Tim posted. It's actually a decent read for what it is. But it's funny because you're holding it up as some great accomplishment and you don't even know if he used the TV broadcast or not. McMahon is not the first blogger to do it, nor will he be the last.

No dear. I really don't care. There's no one's opinion on watching NFL football, especially Cowbys football, that I respect more than fellow zoner, theebs. He's a fan and a great source of knowledge at the same time. I am NOT alligned with any media person/media outelet of any kind.

McMahon could be a high school janitor for all I care . His post is better that the other referenced crap. I never once held it up as a great accomplishment, but you made my point for me. He has the same resources as Yrich, Grizz and others and made a better presentation and summation combined.

 

[Doctor32]

You sound like one of those people that think a 'blog' has more credibility than people just posting on a message board. Youre impressed by pomp and circumstance so be it.

At that same time, hes not saying your opinion is not valid because it disagrees with his but rather there is no way that you could have enough experience at least on this board of the quality of the game observation posts to be able to have an informed opnion.

Sure there are some hacks that do writeups here but there are also some very informed posters as well. the key is figuring that out but blanket statements such as yours just show someone who sounds bitter.

That being said Id rather read Vela's writeups than anyone who is being paid to cover the Cowboys anyday and twice on Sundays.

I enjoy Vela's stuff. I don't have a high or inflated opinion of bloggers. I don't care. It's no different than a message board. Opinions are opinions, and there are tons of football illiterate journalists covering the NFL.

 

[WoodysGirl]

No dear. I really don't care. There's no one's opinion on watching NFL football, especially Cowbys football, that I respect more than fellow zoner, theebs. He's a fan and a great source of knowledge at the same time. I am NOT alligned with any media person/media outelet of any kind.

Not sure where that came from. I like theebs, but I don't know what he has to do with this thread.

McMahon could be a high school janitor for all I care . His post is better that the other referenced crap. I never once held it up as a great accomplishment, but you made my point for me. He has the same resources as Yrich, Grizz and others and made a better presentation and summation combined.

Actually you have. Your whole presence in this thread is about what a great post it was.

But since you agreed with me in your follow-up post about how you feel about fan bloggers, in general, then there's no need to discuss this further. But I would hope that since you don't particularly care for the resident bloggers information that you don't pee on their thread, just because you don't like them.

 

[superpunk]

I enjoy Vela's stuff. I don't have a high or inflated opinion of bloggers. I don't care. It's no different than a message board. Opinions are opinions, and there are tons of football illiterate journalists covering the NFL.

Your opinion seems to be all over the place.

You don't have a high opinion of bloggers, but you acknowledge that there are hordes of journalists who don't know anything, either.

Is there any type of media outlet you view as legitimate? Are beat-reporters who act as mouthpieces for the players-coaches to the fans the only legitimate source of information? Should columnists go shoot themselves?

Your ill-placed ragging on a few posters most of us respect is well, ill-placed. None of the posters you mention present themselves as experts, yet they provide a viewpoint that those of us who don't have a stick in our *** enjoy and appreciate. I'd rather read 100 Yakuza Rich posts with some minor inaccuracy than any of your incessant *****ing about it, or what some fluzie columnist with "credentials" has thought up in the way of a nickname for TO this week.

 

[Doctor32]

Your opinion seems to be all over the place.

You don't have a high opinion of bloggers, but you acknowledge that there are hordes of journalists who don't know anything, either.

Is there any type of media outlet you view as legitimate? Are beat-reporters who act as mouthpieces for the players-coaches to the fans the only legitimate source of information? Should columnists go shoot themselves?

Your ill-placed ragging on a few posters most of us respect is well, ill-placed. None of the posters you mention present themselves as experts, yet they provide a viewpoint that those of us who don't have a stick in our *** enjoy and appreciate. I'd rather read 100 Yakuza Rich posts with some minor inaccuracy than any of your incessant *****ing about it, or what some fluzie columnist with "credentials" has thought up in the way of a nickname for TO this week.

Read what you want to read, Bro. But I can criticize their inaccurate Game Film Breakdowns.

 

[pugilist]

not to rain on the parade but the ram's offensive line wasn't exactly at full strength.. if they can duplicate sunday's defensive results against the pats then the defense really has something

 

[superpunk]

Read what you want to read, Bro. But I can criticize their inaccurate Game Film Breakdowns.

So can we expect to see you continue to harp on the single, insignificant discrepancy you found in a blog in every thread - meanwhile praising "Blogger" Tim McMahon - and then subsequently crapping on the entire "Blogging" scene? What would be great is if you kept a weather eye for all the mistakes that Timmy is wont to make, and then childishly harped on those, as well.

Or can we expect you to grow up and appreciate the time and perspective that some of these posters offer for free - understanding that yes, as veteran humans, they might make a mistake now and again?

There are apparently no legitimate media outlets. Columnists, reporters, bloggers, posters - go into a corner and die. Doctor32 has determined that you are irrelevant.

 

[Doctor32]

So can we expect to see you continue to harp on the single, insignificant discrepancy you found in a blog in every thread - meanwhile praising "Blogger" Tim McMahon - and then subsequently crapping on the entire "Blogging" scene? What would be great is if you kept a weather eye for all the mistakes that Timmy is wont to make, and then childishly harped on those, as well.

Or can we expect you to grow up and appreciate the time and perspective that some of these posters offer for free?

There are apparently no legitimate media outlets. Columnists, reporters, bloggers, posters - go into a corner and die. Doctor32 has determined that you are irrelevant.

What? Grow up? I never "crapped" on the entire blogging scene. Slow your roll, back read the entire thread and then enter the pit, Dude. Otherwise step aside and aim you puny flamethrower in someone else's direction. I never said Columinsts are irrelevant.
WG claimed that I only like Tim's post b/c he wrote for the DMN, I said I don't care who he works for. I am not loyal to any newpaper.
Use some contextual knowledge before you tell another man to grow up. You didn't know what you were tooting blowhard horn about in the 1st place. What a dill...

 

[Doctor32]

Not sure where that came from. I like theebs, but I don't know what he has to do with this thread.

You said you didn't believe me that I wasn't praising Tim's post simply because he's a Dallas journalist. I was using my appreciation of theebs' input, insight and time invested into his videos and posts, a Dallas Cowboy fan, as an example of why your disbelief was a bit unfounded.

 

[superpunk]

What? Grow up? I never "crapped" on the entire blogging scene. Slow your roll, back read the entire thread and then enter the pit, Dude. Otherwise step aside and aim you puny flamethrower in someone else's direction. I never said Columinsts are irrelevant.
WG claimed that I only like Tim's post b/c he wrote for the DMN, I said I don't care who works for. I am not loyal to any newpaper.
Use some contextual knowledge before you tell another man to grow up. You didn't know what you were tooting blowhard horn about in the 1st place. What a dill...

You apparently cannot follow your own ridiculous viewpoint.

You found a small inaccuracy in one of Rich's breakdowns, and have opted to flex your e-peen about it.

You say you don't have a high opinion of bloggers. Yet you praise McMahon in this instance, who amazingly enough, is a blogger (who you allegedly do not have a high opinion of).

You also state that there are "tons of football illiterate journalists covering the NFL". You've crapped on everything, while elevating a blogger's evaluation, only to crap on bloggers again. I've read the thread. The more it goes along, the more infantile you come across.