DMN Blog: Give Parcells credit for bargain grocery shopping

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Give Parcells credit for bargain grocery shopping


It's easy to point out Bill Parcells' early-round draft whiffs during his Valley Ranch tenure. CB Terence Newman and OLB DeMarcus Ware are the only first- or second-round picks from the Tuna's four draft classes producing like high picks.

You have to give Parcells credit, however, for stocking this roster with mid- and late-round steals.

Eleven current Cowboys were picked by Parcells in the third round or later. Follow the jump for a look at each one.

TE Jason Witten (third round, 2003): You can make a strong argument that Witten is the best all-around tight end in the league. San Diego's Antonio Gates is the only TE with more yards and catches than Witten (42-540). Indy's Dallas Clark and New England's Ben Watson are the only ones with more than Witten's four touchdowns. Witten is a better blocker than all those dudes.

ILB Bradie James (fourth round, 2003): Dallas defense's emotional leader and leading tackler. Per the stats from the coaches' film study, he had 59 tackles entering the last game, 11 more than any teammate. Limited in pass coverage but not asked to cover downfield as much in Phillips' system.

CB Nate Jones (seventh round, 2004): Can be overmatched physically and athletically, but he's a smart player who doesn't blow assignments. One of team's top special teams players.

WR Patrick Crayton (seventh round, 2004): Established himself as an excellent No. 3 receiver last season and is proving he can be a decent No. 2. Ranks 31st in the league with 400 receiving yards on 26 catches, including four touchdowns. Challenging T.O. for status as Cowboys' best quote machine.

CB Jacques Reeves (seventh round, 2004): Leads team with 11 pass deflections, in part because opponents have tried to pick on him. Has been adequate as a fill-in starter.

RB Marion "The Barbarian" Barber (fourth round, 2005): Doesn't start, but he's established himself as one of the NFC's premier backs. Adrian Peterson is the only 50-carry back in the league who averages more than Barber's 5.7 yards per carry. His five rushing TDs rank behind only LaDainian Tomlinson. Has scored 22 TDs since start of 2006 season, more than any player other than Tomlinson.

DE Chris Canty (fourth round, 2005): Major reason the Cowboys rank seventh in the NFL against the run. Described by Wade Phillips as a "disruptive force." Leads Cowboys DL with 17 tackles. Blocked field goal vs. Vikings was biggest play of game.

DL Jay Ratliff (seventh round, 2005): Natural DE has done excellent job filling in for injured NT Jason Ferguson. Established himself as solid pass rusher last season. Proved in last seven games that he can hold up against the run.

DE Jason Hatcher (third round, 2006): Pushing 2005 first-rounder Marcus Spears for playing time. Has been playmaking machine this month, with a sack, two tackles for losses, fumble return for TD and forced fumble in three games.

FS Pat Watkins (fifth round, 2006): Struggled when pushed into starting duty as rookie, but he's been steady in the dime package this season. Leads Cowboys with 12 special teams tackles and returned blocked field goal 68 yards for TD vs. Vikings.

OL Pat McQuistan (seventh round, 2006): Valuable reserve whose versatility allows Cowboys to carry only seven offensive linemen on 45-man active roster. Could develop into starter at tackle or guard.


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If you include UDFA, you can also add Romo and Hoyte.
 

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I give him all the credit in the world for that list...but the following list has to have at least half of them see contract #2 from the Dallas Cowboys for this team to keep it rolling like the Eagles, Colts, Pats, Steelers etc...


Spears (1st) - is just a guy...doubt he see's contract #2 from the Cowboys

Carpenter (1st) - hopefully he will be ready once Akin Adolye losses a step...you simply cannot whiff on a LBer in the 1st round..they are going to have to find a way to get something out of him over the next 5 years

Burnett (2nd) - way to much talent to give up on

Rogers (2nd) - already gone

Fasano (2nd) - will never amount to much as long as Witten is healthy

Johnson (2nd ) - it is fair to ask the first Center taken in a draft class to be a starter for many years

JuJo (2nd ) - is gone after this season...has been decent...but when you pass up Steven Jackson for JuJo/Rogers, decent is not good enough

Peterman (3rd) - it is fair to ask a guard drafted in the 3rd round to give you something...he gave us nothing

We won't really know how bad the aformentioned guys will come back to haunt us just yet....when TO/Terry Glenn are gone will hold some of the answers to how bad not addressing that situation while drafting bust after bust after bust in the 2nd round. We can honestly clean those misses up with finding a big time CB, WR in the upcoming draft.
 

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AL Johnson is starting for another team. Jacob Rogers is a total bust.
Bobby Carpenter is not doing well. Burnett- injured a lot but contributing. Fasano is playing a lot and the guy in front of him is All Pro. Spears and JJ are starting. So Is ware and Newman. Of 9 players taken in the first and second rds in 4 years you have One Pro Bowl player in Ware, one who SHOULD be in Newman, and 2 other starters. And it could be argued that the 2006 picks still have time to show more. 4 starters and 1 who playes a lot, two spot players, and one total bust plus one who started for 2 years and is starting for another team. I would say that that is pretty respectible for the top 2 rds. How many teams have done better?
 

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burmafrd;1725581 said:
AL Johnson is starting for another team. Jacob Rogers is a total bust.
Bobby Carpenter is not doing well. Burnett- injured a lot but contributing. Fasano is playing a lot and the guy in front of him is All Pro. Spears and JJ are starting. So Is ware and Newman. Of 9 players taken in the first and second rds in 4 years you have One Pro Bowl player in Ware, one who SHOULD be in Newman, and 2 other starters. And it could be argued that the 2006 picks still have time to show more. 4 starters and 1 who playes a lot, two spot players, and one total bust plus one who started for 2 years and is starting for another team. I would say that that is pretty respectible for the top 2 rds. How many teams have done better?
Johnson is starting for another team....why should we care? Spears and JuJo are starting...but Steven Jackson is potentially on his way to a HOF career! Fasano will never be a good decision in my book. lookit, if you are going to give him credit for the success stories, which this article does...you cannot make excuses for the failures....he is not God...he made mistakes....and if he was the current coache we would not be 6 - 1...believe that! Again, we will not really know how whiffing so badly on 1st and 2nd rounders is going to cost until we see what this team is going to be like next year when it is very possible that Flozell Adams, Patrick Crayton, Terry Glenn, Julius Jones will not be here. Do we have their replacemnents currently on the team? Are we going to have to rely on expensive free agent to replace them? Are we going to have to rely on rookies to replace them?
 

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bbailey423;1725597 said:
Johnson is starting for another team....why should we care? Spears and JuJo are starting...but Steven Jackson is potentially on his way to a HOF career! Fasano will never be a good decision in my book. lookit, if you are going to give him credit for the success stories, which this article does...you cannot make excuses for the failures....he is not God...he made mistakes....and if he was the current coache we would not be 6 - 1...believe that! Again, we will not really know how whiffing so badly on 1st and 2nd rounders is going to cost until we see what this team is going to be like next year when it is very possible that Flozell Adams, Patrick Crayton, Terry Glenn, Julius Jones will not be here. Do we have their replacemnents currently on the team? Are we going to have to rely on expensive free agent to replace them? Are we going to have to rely on rookies to replace them?

It is going to be difficult for Jackson to get to the HOF sitting on the sidelines. Julius has more yards, a higher average and more TDs this season. Jackson has 316 more rushing yards than Jones for their careers. I don't think Julius is great and never thought he would be, but Jackson has a long way to go to prove he is HOF material. You are right that Parcells has also made some poor decisions, but it wasn't as if he passed on Jim Brown to get Julius and an extra pick.
 

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joseephuss;1725607 said:
It is going to be difficult for Jackson to get to the HOF sitting on the sidelines. Julius has more yards, a higher average and more TDs this season. Jackson has 316 more rushing yards than Jones for their careers. I don't think Julius is great and never thought he would be, but Jackson has a long way to go to prove he is HOF material. You are right that Parcells has also made some poor decisions, but it wasn't as if he passed on Jim Brown to get Julius and an extra pick.

Actually, I never realized that Jackson has only 316 more rushing yards than Jones since their careers started . . . . very interesting factoid.
 

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bbailey423;1725597 said:
Johnson is starting for another team....why should we care?

Because it speaks to the quality of the selection.
 

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Woods;1725620 said:
Actually, I never realized that Jackson has only 316 more rushing yards than Jones since their careers started . . . . very interesting factoid.

While that is true, Jackson has about 800 more receiving yards on about 90 more catches. He also has almost twice as many total TDs
 

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BP entered the picture coaching a team that had 3 years in a row of 5-11 and leaves in place the current group that we see today. A blind man should be able to see the positive effect that BP had on this franchise. No doubt the final goal was not achived but we are still better off today because of Parcells.
 

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abersonc;1725645 said:
While that is true, Jackson has about 800 more receiving yards on about 90 more catches. He also has almost twice as many total TDs

He also is the focal point of an offense
 

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No HC ever batted 1.000, they typically miss more than hit, with that in mind, I believe BP did pretty well with draft and got us several key starters and reserves.
 

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I say this with a sincerity, who gives a flying **** about Parcells, seriously he is gone get over it, and quit trying to infuse him into every discussion about the 2007 Cowboys
 

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BigDFan5;1725745 said:
I say this with a sincerity, who gives a flying **** about Parcells, seriously he is gone get over it, and quit trying to infuse him into every discussion about the 2007 Cowboys

True but many of the players are guys we got under his watch so many will look at the work of BP as a contributing factor. I don't think it takes anything away from what Phillips and his staff is doing which has been outstanding.
 

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BigDFan5;1725745 said:
I say this with a sincerity, who gives a flying **** about Parcells, seriously he is gone get over it, and quit trying to infuse him into every discussion about the 2007 Cowboys

:bow:
 

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abersonc;1725645 said:
While that is true, Jackson has about 800 more receiving yards on about 90 more catches. He also has almost twice as many total TDs

I believe he also backed up faulk his 1st year in the league.
 

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Doomsday101;1725749 said:
True but many of the players are guys we got under his watch so many will look at the work of BP as a contributing factor. I don't think it takes anything away from what Phillips and his staff is doing which has been outstanding.


I have no problem with that, but seriously we get like 2-3 new threads a week about Parcells. I didnt hate him when he was here, but damn its time to move on from him. every discussion about the Cowboys doesnt need to end with "thanks to Parcells" Know what I mean?


Does anyone seriously think we are 6-1 if {arcells were still here?
 

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Doomsday101;1725647 said:
BP entered the picture coaching a team that had 3 years in a row of 5-11 and leaves in place the current group that we see today. A blind man should be able to see the positive effect that BP had on this franchise.

Welcome to the land of the blind.
 

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BigDFan5;1725764 said:
I have no problem with that, but seriously we get like 2-3 new threads a week about Parcells. I didnt hate him when he was here, but damn its time to move on from him. every discussion about the Cowboys doesnt need to end with "thanks to Parcells" Know what I mean?

They still talked a lot about Jimmy when Switzer was here. To suggest that now that he's gone he doesn't have anything to do with the current team is ridiculous. Mainly because 85% of the current players on the roster were acquired and developed under his tenure, including QB who will probably start in the Pro Bowl for the NFC, and if Parcells doesn't bring the 3-4 to Dallas Wade doesn't get the HC job. We probably have Norv as the HC *shudder*.

I don't know if we would still be 6-1 under Parcells. I really can't think of a 6 game stretch in recent history when we have had four of the seven worst teams in the NFL lined up and we never had consistent QB play while he was here that could mask horrible defense like we saw in the Giants game.
 
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