DMN Blog: Jerry Jones talks playcalling, team's chances, GM

[Juke99]

Wow, Jerry is still getting mileage out of those super bowls.

I wish I could get the same mileage at my job for things I did 15 years ago.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

Show me anyone who is suggesting we should hit on EVERY personnel decision?

And while you're at it, show me how many teams have 3 undrafted WR's and a 7th rounder among their top 5 receivers?

And how many teams have only drafted a QB in the first 2 rounds once in the last 2 decades?

:laugh2: My point was that Jerry is not credited for any of his personell decisions. It's all given to Parcells and Ireland. How much depth did we have when they were here? Or when they left?

I'm sure that there are more out there than you'd realize... And i'm not suggesting that is a good thing but draft status is irrelevant when the game is played.

How many teams have spent the world and sold their soul to draft a QB in the first round and regretted it horribly? Once again draft status is irrelevant when the game begins... just ask Favre, or Warner, or Brady... none of them were drafted in the first two rounds, but all of them have a super bowl ring!

 

[Apollo Creed]

Wow, Jerry is still getting mileage out of those super bowls.

I wish I could get the same mileage at my job for things I did 15 years ago.

Jimmy's Super Bowls.

 

[sureletsrace]

Jerry Jones talks playcalling, team's chances, GM
9:56 AM Tue, Oct 06, 2009
Todd Archer/Reporter

I caught some of Jerry Jones on his weekly appearance on The Fan this morning, and he was not ready to throw away the season after a 2-2 start. No shocker.

Anyway, here's what he said:

"I really like our team. I like the makeup of our team. I like the quarterback a lot. I've been part of a team that lost the first two games and won a Super Bowl. You've got to be a little careful when you've got the length of a season that we've got."

On Jason Garrett's playcalling: "It's so easy to second guess playcalling. I think it goes with the territory. You've got to win consistently to keep it from happening. I do know what we do is well thought out."

On if he would ever hire a coach/general manager type: "No ... I don't have anything I don't manage. I just don't."

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[Rampage]

:laugh2: My point was that Jerry is not credited for any of his personell decisions. It's all given to Parcells and Ireland. How much depth did we have when they were here? Or when they left?

I'm sure that there are more out there than you'd realize... And i'm not suggesting that is a good thing but draft status is irrelevant when the game is played.

How many teams have spent the world and sold their soul to draft a QB in the first round and regretted it horribly? Once again draft status is irrelevant when the game begins... just ask Favre, or Warner, or Brady... none of them were drafted in the first two rounds, but all of them have a super bowl ring!

amazing that people still defend Jerry.

 

[DallasGirl50]

I agree with Norm Hitzges..the Cowboys are an average team. Talent-wise.

Our record proves that.

 

[Jarv]

Take the Yankees for example, during the early 90's Steinbrenner did something stupid, can't remember what but he was suspended from baseball, could not make any team decisions.

The "Stick" took over the GM duties of the team, built up there farm league and brought up players like Jeter, Rivera and Bernie. Those guys won 4 championships in 5 years. Then Steinbrenner came back and they haven't won a world series since (although this year looks good).

Jerry needs to be caught doing something, get himself banned. Any good ideas guys ?

 

[tunahelper]

I'm not real happy with the Cowboys right now but all this Jerry bashing has always confused me.

3 superbowl rings, new amazing stadium and a passionate owner willing to spend money............yeah horrible.

Show me all the owners who have won 3 SB's in 20 years and provided their team with the luxuries the Cowboys have.........

Sure we are in a drought, it kills me just as much as it kills you but it's not like the guy feels any better about it then we do and I'm pretty sure if he could change it tomorrow no matter the cost he would.

I agree with most of this post. While JJ and the staff have issues this team was put into place to be 4-0 right now. Most of the blame should be placed at the overpaid, overrated talent we have.

 

[Juke99]

Jimmy's Super Bowls.

On the nosey...

Oh and before anyone posts it, "So if Jimmy was so good, what happened with him in Miami"

 

[Bach]

:laugh2: My point was that Jerry is not credited for any of his personell decisions. It's all given to Parcells and Ireland. How much depth did we have when they were here? Or when they left?

I'm sure that there are more out there than you'd realize... And i'm not suggesting that is a good thing but draft status is irrelevant when the game is played.

How many teams have spent the world and sold their soul to draft a QB in the first round and regretted it horribly? Once again draft status is irrelevant when the game begins... just ask Favre, or Warner, or Brady... none of them were drafted in the first two rounds, but all of them have a super bowl ring!

My point is people want to credit Jerry for decisions others made. Some try to credit Jerry for Jimmy's decisions. And now people are trying to credit him for decisions made by Parcells. And do you think Jerry was the primary personnel decision maker then? I take it Jerry brought in all those former Patriot and Jets players that played for Parcells? Parcells is the one guy since Jimmy left that Jerry gave personnel power to. When BP left Jerry took it back.

And I'm not saying we never had any good picks by Jerry. Also, draft status doesn't guarantee anything, I know. But to think you have a better chance with undrafted players than guys taken high in the draft is laughable. No doubt some high picks don't pan out and some undrafted ones do, but that's not the general case.

The point being we'd have a far better chance at having a good WR corp if we had spent some top draft choices there through the years. Guess who the last WR we took in the first round was? Alvin Harper all the way back in the early '90's.

I know the excuse though, if a QB is taken high and doesn't pan out it could set the franchise back several years. But just look around at where we're at by now by trying to rely on journeymen, scrubs and undrafted free agents.

Bottomline is Jerry has screwed the pooch more often than not with his personnel decisions, coaching hires and hands-on interference over the last decade and a half.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

My point is people want to credit Jerry for decisions others made. Some try to credit Jerry for Jimmy's decisions. And now people are trying to credit him for decisions made by Parcells. And do you think Jerry was the primary personnel decision maker then? I take it Jerry brought in all those former Patriot and Jets players that played for Parcells? Parcells is the one guy since Jimmy left that Jerry gave personnel power to. When BP left Jerry took it back.

And I'm not saying we never had any good picks by Jerry. Also, draft status doesn't guarantee anything, I know. But to think you have a better chance with undrafted players than guys taken high in the draft is laughable. No doubt some high picks don't pan out and some undrafted ones do, but that's not the general case.

The point being we'd have a far better chance at having a good WR corp if we had spent some top draft choices there through the years. Guess who the last WR we took in the first round was? Alvin Harper all the way back in the early '90's.

I know the excuse though, if a QB is taken high and doesn't pan out it could set the franchise back several years. But just look around at where we're at by now by trying to rely on journeymen, scrubs and undrafted free agents.

Bottomline is Jerry has screwed the pooch more often than not with his personnel decisions, coaching hires and hands-on interference over the last decade and a half.

And what did all of Parcells personell moves AND COACHING get us in this decade? Parcells IS/WAS the king of the journeymen! He takes the same players from place to place. Bottom line is that even with Parcells "great" personell choices we still did nothing with it when he was here either! SO how does that make him any better of a decision maker?

 

[jman]

I think MOST here love Jerry the owner, it's Jerry the GM that scares them.

That being said, the talent is here for this team to win. For some reason, we play like a dumb football team. We had the same issues when Parcells was here as well. Sooner or later, the players have to quit making stupid mistakes.

I think Jerry the owner is the problem.

When Wade asked to raise the fines and Jerry said NO...that wasn't the GM, that was the owner. Talk about cutting your coach off at the knees.

No one in that building see's Jerry as the General Manager...When they talk to Jerry, everyone from the waterboy to the caoches and scouts and players know they are talking to the owner.

Thank you for the beautiful stadium, thank you for those three Superbowls, and thank you for the memories. But let your coaches be the voices to the players.

 

[RS12]

On if he would ever hire a coach/general manager type: "No ... I don't have anything I don't manage. I just don't."

Maybe Stephen could have him declared mentally incompetent. The league could set a precedent with Al Davis.

 

[Rampage]

And what did all of Parcells personell moves AND COACHING get us in this decade? Parcells IS/WAS the king of the journeymen! He takes the same players from place to place. Bottom line is that even with Parcells "great" personell choices we still did nothing with it when he was here either! SO how does that make him any better of a decision maker?

If Romo doesn't screw up and drop the hold for a freaking fg he woulda atleast won a playoff game here.

 

[Skinsmaniac]

. . . As long as people keep showing up at the stadium, he'll have little incentive to change. . .

I'll jump in because the Commanders are facing something similar, with an owner who refuses to hand over full control to a GM, but spends a lot and seems to genuinely care about winning. After the Detroit loss, something snapped. Fans are p.o.'d and realize that the Skins will never be a winner with Snyder at the top, and we simply don't care anymore that he loves the team. I don't think Snyder realizes it yet, but it is going to hit the bottom line. For years, Skins fans have been saying that as long as Snyder continues to make money, he won't change. I believe we're at the point where Snyder can no longer be sure he's going to make money.

We have the second largest stadium in the league. However, in the past ten years the waiting list has shrunk from 15 years to 5. People may not give up their tickets just to send a message to Snyder, but they will give up their tickets when they pay so much for such a poor product. And then on top of that, the Commanders disrespect their fans by lying to them outright about seat upgrades. It is not inconceivable that within the next five years, the waiting list disappears completely. I'm giving up my tickets after only four years because I'm tired of being jerked around. Why pay $2100 a year when I can get my tickets in the parking lot for half that? I wouldn't be surprised if Jones discovers that his stadium is an albatross. It costs a lot of money just to turn on the stadium lights - not to mention buying up tickets to prevent a blackout.

Even before the waitlist disappears, Snyder will get hit. I refuse to buy any drinks, food, or merchandise. I have my one Skins jersey - I don't need any more. I refuse to buy a parking pass; instead I park and walk. There are a lot more people like me and more join the ranks of the disillusioned every day. If everyone stopped buy food and drinks for just one game, it would probably be a $2 million hit.

Anyway, the NFL has been dominant for a long time now, but I think that owners are overplaying their hand. They'll soon realize that the NFL's growth is not unstoppable, and they'll either adjust by lowering prices across the board, or they'll lose a lot of money.

/Bitter rambling over

 

[Mash]

I love Jerry Jones...

The guy started with very little and now is very well off...

He purchased the Cowboys and has won 3 Sb's with them..

Jerry made the NFL and himself alot of money.....then goes out and spends alot of money to build one of the most beautifull stadiums in North America.

Jerry can do anything he wants......he has earned it IMHO.

The Cowboys are still one of the most popular team in Sports....and Jerry's Jones had alot to do with it.

If I was in Jerry's shoes.....I would want full control too......

 

[wileedog]

And what did all of Parcells personell moves AND COACHING get us in this decade? Parcells IS/WAS the king of the journeymen! He takes the same players from place to place. Bottom line is that even with Parcells "great" personell choices we still did nothing with it when he was here either! SO how does that make him any better of a decision maker?

Look at the 2002 Roster and look at the 2006 roster and ask yourself that question again.

Its not about individual personnel decisions either, Parcells re-tooled the whole organization and scouting system and the input that got to the top. Look at how this team drafted for YEARS before Parcells came and put his stamp on this organization.

We can nitpick about the Bobby Carpenters and Vinny's all day, but this was a better run football team with Bill in charge.

And now its sliding inexorably back to Jerryworld. We're coming home 2002!

 

[wileedog]

If I was in Jerry's shoes.....I would want full control too......

And we'd all hate you

 

[AmericasTeam31]

If Romo doesn't screw up and drop the hold for a freaking fg he woulda atleast won a playoff game here.

But Romo was one of "his" players. SO one of Parcell's players cost us a chance to win a playoff game... (but do we really think that our defense wouldn't have blown it,... i mean really?)

If our O-line could've blocked the Giants D-line then chances are Wade woulda won a playoff game too... but the bottom line in both cases is that it didn't happen... so we move on.

 

[Doomsday101]

Look at the 2002 Roster and look at the 2006 roster and ask yourself that question again.

Its not about individual personnel decisions either, Parcells re-tooled the whole organization and scouting system and the input that got to the top. Look at how this team drafted for YEARS before Parcells came and put his stamp on this organization.

We can nitpick about the Bobby Carpenters and Vinny's all day, but this was a better run football team with Bill in charge.

And now its sliding inexorably back to Jerryworld. We're coming home 2002!

BP did not run the show. Ireland was in Dallas before Parcells got here. BP clearly had input but he was not re-tooling the organization