DMN Blog: Jerry Jones talks playcalling, team's chances, GM

[Mash]

I love the Cowboys. With a rich history of winning and catching the nations attention for greater things than reality shows, flashy headlines and an over bloated place to play, they transcend one narcissistic clown.

What made the Cowboys so popular has nothing to do with the clown yet with constant losing and laughable management comes loss of prestige. 'Still the most popular team' is of little importance, I don't love the Cowboys because they're popular. I'd rather they win and sell less jerseys. I wouldn't care if they did their winning on a high school football field, without the pole dancers and the glitz, as long as opposing teams weren't given to feeling so good about accomplishing the bottom line of football, that they're impelled to hang their jocks around Jerry's new toy.

I'm not a fan of old men I've never met. They aren't worthy of fandom, simply because they bought the team I'm a fan of. Jerry didn't win three super bowls. The men on the field did, guided by a coach; coached by great assistants and yes, all bought by Senor Clown. But, it's been sufficiently proven that spending gross amounts of money does nothing but buy expectation and expectation doesn't lead to success.

The buck stops at this clown and he's a monumental failure as history unfailingly proves to be true. He can't manage a football team, plain and simple.

Wow.......way to vent....

I still love Jerry....as I loved Tex and Co.....

I will support who ever wears that Star....or whoever owns this team...

btw...I never said Jerry made Cowboys more popular.....but all these years...he sure hasnt decreased its fanbase..

Also...who said anything about cheering for the Cowboys because they are popular.

My Point was...I respect Jerry Jones....he went from nothing to owning the Dallas Cowboys....and he has all the right to be fully in charge...

btw...Jerry Jones the idiot has won 3 Super Bowls as GM.....yes Jimmy Genius was a big part of it....but so was this clown. How many GM's can say they won 3 Sb's?.... 2?.... 3? .....

 

[Mash]

Jenkins has played really well the last 2 games.

Scandrick has been the most inconsistent corner on the team this year.

Bennett has looked like he has no idea what's going on the past couple of games and is barely used.

Choice can play but doesn't get a chance unless Felix or Barber get hurt.

Felix can play but only for a handfull of plays before he gets hurt.

I don't think we'll have 5-11 seasons but 7-9 to 9-7 seasons are more realistic. A little better than Campo but still not good enough.

Nothing is good enough unless you win a SB...

Some here think that winning a lousy playoff game is some sort of success....

So far there have been just a handfull of teams that have won Sb's in the last 10 years......those teams have had success.....all the others....have had disappointing seasons.......its SB or bust....being 5-11 or 10-6 and not winning the SB is the same thing at the end of the year....nothing is guaranteed the following year...

 

[Doomsday101]

Ireland was here, but Lacewell was in charge. I remember clearly Ireland commenting on the scouts sitting with Bill and him giving very clear direction on the types of players he was looking for and how to help identify them.

He also changed the way camp was run, they way the players interacted with the media, and just about everything his control freak nature could get his hands on.

Just look a the results. A large majority of the roster on Campo's last team were not only out of Dallas but out of football entirely within a few years of Bill getting here. If that's not the most stinging indictment of Jerry running a football team by himself I don't know what is.

I recall BP and Jerry both saying how things were being done which was input from BP and the scouts and not always did BP get his way there were times Jerry listend to the scouts had they not done that Spears would have been drafted much sooner than he was instead we took Ware 11 and Spears at 20. BP played a part but no he was not running the draft

 

[wileedog]

This "slide to 2002" talk is ridiculous, despite some of the Parcells fans wishing it were true.

Besides Campo, the worst thing about those awful years was the terrible drafting. Who thinks Scandrick, Jenkins, Bennett, Choice, and Felix can't play?

We also never found a QB in those days. Who really thinks Romo is another Quincy Carter?

Good grief.

Right now, unless Anthony Spencer stops making "almost" plays the 2007 draft class is looking pretty bad. 2008 is better I'll grant you, but in 2009 we traded the top of our draft for a dubious #1 WR (stop me if you've heard this song before) and then drafted 'backups and special teamers' (or that song).

Obviously way too early to judge, but if all of those 2nd day picks give us 2nd day contributions then I don't see much to crow about for 3 years of drafting.

As for Romo, he came in and was developed under Bill's watch. We can compare QBs when McGee gets on the field.

 

[Mash]

Lets make it easy on some...

When things go right.....its someone elses doing....

When things go wrong....its Jerry Jones doing

its simple...

 

[vta]

Wow.......way to vent....

I still love Jerry....as I loved Tex and Co.....

I will support who ever wears that Star....or whoever owns this team...

btw...I never said Jerry made Cowboys more popular.....but all these years...he sure hasnt decreased its fanbase..

Also...who said anything about cheering for the Cowboys because they are popular.

My Point was...I respect Jerry Jones....he went from nothing to owning the Dallas Cowboys....and he has all the right to be fully in charge...

btw...Jerry Jones the idiot has won 3 Super Bowls as GM.....yes Jimmy Genius was a big part of it....but so was this clown. How many GM's can say they won 3 Sb's?.... 2?.... 3? .....

I'm passionate about my Jerry-hate.

That's a trick question I think, because the Pats do not have a GM. And I don't know what the '49ers history is and who they had during their great 80's run.

Either way, what happened in the past was a product of more elements than the clown. Now with the clown managing all aspects it's obvious he wasn't a primary reason and can't do it alone, despite his ego.

 

[Doomsday101]

Right now, unless Anthony Spencer stops making "almost" plays the 2007 draft class is looking pretty bad. 2008 is better I'll grant you, but in 2009 we traded the top of our draft for a dubious #1 WR (stop me if you've heard this song before) and then drafted 'backups and special teamers' (or that song).

Obviously way too early to judge, but if all of those 2nd day picks give us 2nd day contributions then I don't see much to crow about for 3 years of drafting.

As for Romo, he came in and was developed under Bill's watch. We can compare QBs when McGee gets on the field.

How about 2006 draft
Bobby Carpenter LB Ohio State
2 53 Anthony Fasano TE Notre Dame
3 92 Jason Hatcher DE Grambling State
4 125 Skyler Green WR Louisiana State
5 138 Pat Watkins FS Florida State
6 182 Montavious Stanley DT Louisville
7 211 Pat McQuistan T Weber State
7 224 E.J. Whitley

wow momma step back!!!!!

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Right now, unless Anthony Spencer stops making "almost" plays the 2007 draft class is looking pretty bad. .

Ireland was still here in 2007, remember?

And sure Tony was a Parcells guy. But I'm talking about going back to 2002 levels of losing. And if we'd had a QB in 2002, even that team would've been much better. One of the biggest reasons that team was a disaster was the Quincy/Hutch trainwreck.

 

[wileedog]

How about 2006 draft
Bobby Carpenter LB Ohio State
2 53 Anthony Fasano TE Notre Dame
3 92 Jason Hatcher DE Grambling State
4 125 Skyler Green WR Louisiana State
5 138 Pat Watkins FS Florida State
6 182 Montavious Stanley DT Louisville
7 211 Pat McQuistan T Weber State
7 224 E.J. Whitley

wow momma step back!!!!!

Hey Jerry got a 6th round pick for Fasano! (well, and Ayodele)

Every team has bad drafts. But Jerry has a long history of them.

IMO the further we get from the Bill years the more and more we're going to see the same crap we saw in the 90's. Again, he's already deja vued us with trading top picks for a WR who's biggest contribution so far has been his down field blocking.

Again, my opinion, but I don't see the leopard's spots being all that different than they were.

 

[Doomsday101]

Ireland was still here in 2007, remember?

And sure Tony was a Parcells guy. But I'm talking about going back to 2002 levels of losing. And if we'd had a QB in 2002, even that team would've been much better. One of the biggest reasons that team was a disaster was the Quincy/Hutch trainwreck.

True and a big reason why they were here to begin with was in large part because the Dallas Salary cap was out of control.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

BOOOOOO!!!!!!

Real Cowboys Fans hate Jerry "I wanna be a Football Guy" Jones.

 

[wileedog]

Ireland was still here in 2007, remember?

And sure Tony was a Parcells guy. But I'm talking about going back to 2002 levels of losing. And if we'd had a QB in 2002, even that team would've been much better. One of the biggest reasons that team was a disaster was the Quincy/Hutch trainwreck.

No, we won't go to that level, because that team was BAD. Almost gotta give Campo credit for 5 wins.

But we weren't 2002 bad in 1996 3 years after Jimmy either. These things take time...

 

[Cowboyz88]

"On if he would ever hire a coach/general manager type: "No ... I don't have anything I don't manage. I just don't."

I don't ever want to hear that Jerry Jones "wants to win more than anything" again.

It's simply not true.

If you want to shoot a target, but keep putting a finger in the barrel, do you REALLY want to hit the target?

This man's failure to accept that he is the biggest hurdle to the Cowboys success and his refusal to do anything about getting out of the way means that he "wants to win less than he wants to do it his way."

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

No, we won't go to that level, because that team was BAD. Almost gotta give Campo credit for 5 wins.

But we weren't 2002 bad in 1996 3 years after Jimmy either.

These kind of conversations never should have happened....they didn't end up happening in New England or Pittsburgh and while we've all sit idle on our hands and on our watch - it certainly has. We've not only been equalled we've been left in the dust by several teams in the last 12 years and it has been pure Hell for those who remember what being the VERY BEST FRANCHISE EVER in the entire league was all about.

 

[Doomsday101]

Hey Jerry got a 6th round pick for Fasano! (well, and Ayodele)

Every team has bad drafts. But Jerry has a long history of them.

IMO the further we get from the Bill years the more and more we're going to see the same crap we saw in the 90's. Again, he's already deja vued us with trading top picks for a WR who's biggest contribution so far has been his down field blocking.

Again, my opinion, but I don't see the leopard's spots being all that different than they were.

As you said In your opinion. I like BP but I'm not going to sit here and pretend he was the sole reason why things began to turn around nor was he running the show. He played a part and that is still taking place today. Since BP left I think we have continue to improve in player selection both in the draft and FA. I like Brooking and Olshansky as well as our selection of Felix Jones
Mike Jenkins Martellus Bennett Tashard Choice Orlando Scandrick. So while you may be seeing the crap from the 90's I clearly don't see that, I see some good promising player that hopfully will be contributing for some time

 

[SultanOfSix]

"On if he would ever hire a coach/general manager type: "No ... I don't have anything I don't manage. I just don't."

I don't ever want to hear that Jerry Jones "wants to win more than anything" again.

It's simply not true.

You're right. It's not.

But, I don't think people are understanding it from his perspective. This is a man who's built himself into a billionaire from scratch. A man who already had tremendous early success with the organization. I don't think he's ever held the opinion that all or most of the success is because of him, but he certainly has an ego. I'm sure many of those who have had the same type of success he has had would also have the same type of ego, maybe even a bigger one. But, all you hear in sports circles is "he can't do the job." That leads some people to fold. That doesn't lead people like him to do the same thing, but go in the completely opposite direction. He may consider that some things aren't working, but he's going to do whatever he can to fix them and make sure he's a part of doing that and gets a significant portion of the credit. He didn't get to where he is by folding. I'm not saying it's right one way or the other, but this is just my opinion on how I believe someone in his position views the questions about his GM ability.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

You're right. It's not.

But, I don't think people are understanding it from his perspective. This is a man who's built himself into a billionaire from scratch. A man who already had tremendous early success with the organization.

Whao wait a minute stop....I can't read on....EARLY SUCCESS EARLY!!!! THAT WAS 12 freaking a' YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the ONLY time he EVER had sucess was with the team Jimmy Johnson led. Jerry wasn't leading anything, that was the house that Jimmy built.

 

[wileedog]

Mike Jenkins Martellus Bennett Tashard Choice Orlando Scandrick. So while you may be seeing the crap from the 90's I clearly don't see that, I see some good promising player that hopfully will be contributing for some time

Greg Ellis, Dat Nguyen, Flozell, etc. Even at his worst Jerry found some decent players.

Doesn't erase the travesty of the end result.

Again, I think some of those 12 draft picks this year need to turn into gems or we are going to start really moving backwards.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

btw...Jerry Jones the idiot has won 3 Super Bowls as GM.....yes Jimmy Genius was a big part of it....but so was this clown. How many GM's can say they won 3 Sb's?.... 2?.... 3? .....

So 3 Super Bowl victories in the mid 90s provide adequate justification for the mediocrity in which this organization is now mired and for 12 consecutive years without a playoff win?

Regardless of Jerry's role in the early and mid 90s -- regardless of whether we credit him for all or part of the success -- the NFL is subject to constant change. Either an organization is capable of adjusting to new paradigms as they present themselves, or it fails.

And Jerry has failed...repeatedly.

I'm amused by those who defend Jerry on the basis of his prodigious success 15 years ago; a distance legacy of excellence didn't save Tom Landry his job.

Jerry held Landry accountable for the team's current failings. It's a pity Jerry can't hold himself to the same level of accountability.

 

[Doomsday101]

Greg Ellis, Dat Nguyen, Flozell, etc. Even at his worst Jerry found some decent players.

Doesn't erase the travesty of the end result.

Again, I think some of those 12 draft picks this year need to turn into gems or we are going to start really moving backwards.

I agree and Jerry himself agreed which was why they changed how they went about getting players.