theebs;2358436 said:capers is in New england...How or why would he come here?
Why dont we just hire bill bellichick......geez.
I dont believe the guys on this defense respect any of the coaches. They just have to tolerate them.
Last year this team had coaches they loved and played hard for...
The secondary had todd bowles who newman, henry and williams loved and were willing to go out and play hard for. Even then the results were a mixed bag. Now we have campo and I dont think the players give one iota what he thinks. Putting him in a higher position would be cause for mutiny.
The linebackers had pasqualoni. Ware, bradie, burnett etc...they all loved pasqualoni and he had their respect. Now. Nothing. Those guys all look lost waiting for someone to snap them out of it.
The line, they all came in with kacy rodgers and parcells heavy hand on the defensive line. These guys came in and learned from glover and ferguson. In 2005 we had Glover, Ferguson, Coleman, canty, spears and ratliff. What a great group. Plus ellis was playing down on the nickel. and on the end for the most part until he lost playing time to spears.
I think that all adds up to bad results. Average talent, coupled with a lousy attitude, coupled with lesser coaches coupled with tank johnson and pacman jones being put on the team and becoming the voices of the team and then most importantly everyone answering to Jerry directly.
The season is tanked. The only things that can happen have to take place in the offseason.
Dodger12;2358745 said:-Second, I'd keep Stewart. We have no choice. But, moreso, what do we lose? How much worse can it get? The guy's a young coordinator who's paying the price for his HC's lack of leadership and spine.
jimmy40;2358239 said:Campo shouldn't be anywhere near this team, what a joke to hire that loser back into this organization.
xWraithx;2358598 said:even if we were to "tank" the season, it wouldn't do us much good seeing as we don't have a 1st rounder next year to look forward to
theebs;2358436 said:capers is in New england...How or why would he come here?
Why dont we just hire bill bellichick......geez.
I dont believe the guys on this defense respect any of the coaches. They just have to tolerate them.
Last year this team had coaches they loved and played hard for...
The secondary had todd bowles who newman, henry and williams loved and were willing to go out and play hard for. Even then the results were a mixed bag. Now we have campo and I dont think the players give one iota what he thinks. Putting him in a higher position would be cause for mutiny.
The linebackers had pasqualoni. Ware, bradie, burnett etc...they all loved pasqualoni and he had their respect. Now. Nothing. Those guys all look lost waiting for someone to snap them out of it.
The line, they all came in with kacy rodgers and parcells heavy hand on the defensive line. These guys came in and learned from glover and ferguson. In 2005 we had Glover, Ferguson, Coleman, canty, spears and ratliff. What a great group. Plus ellis was playing down on the nickel. and on the end for the most part until he lost playing time to spears.
I think that all adds up to bad results. Average talent, coupled with a lousy attitude, coupled with lesser coaches coupled with tank johnson and pacman jones being put on the team and becoming the voices of the team and then most importantly everyone answering to Jerry directly.
The season is tanked. The only things that can happen have to take place in the offseason.
FuzzyLumpkins;2361423 said:The defense has been suspect a long time. Pasqualoni was awful with the TE and outside of Ware its not like the talent was developing there. Bowles was good? i guess you forgot all the deep plays his secondary gave up.
Oh and now its Pacman's fault. Id rather have him out there over Henry thats for sure.
Are you really going to place the blame on Jones every time something goes wrong. Thats just show a poor imagination.
I'd rather have Henry any day over over a thug we can't depend on to even make it to the game.FuzzyLumpkins;2361423 said:The defense has been suspect a long time. Pasqualoni was awful with the TE and outside of Ware its not like the talent was developing there. Bowles was good? i guess you forgot all the deep plays his secondary gave up.
Oh and now its Pacman's fault. Id rather have him out there over Henry thats for sure.
Are you really going to place the blame on Jones every time something goes wrong. Thats just show a poor imagination.
theebs;2361426 said:yeah your right, I am wrong.
We need more criminals and more jerry coaching on the sideline.
Sorry for the confusion.
jimmy40;2361432 said:I'd rather have Henry any day over over a thug we can't depend on to even make it to the game.
I love how you are so positive in every thread.theebs;2361426 said:yeah your right, I am wrong.
We need more criminals and more jerry coaching on the sideline.
Sorry for the confusion.
FuzzyLumpkins;2361450 said:Unlike you I actually prefer to win.
Oh and BTW that 'thug' is a living breathing human being with a family. But you keep up with the stereotyping. I mean hes a criminal and your a good wholesome person right?
Wow I'm crushed, I've offended a fan of a thug that let his teamates down. and what the hell am I stereotyping? the guy has proven he is a thug.FuzzyLumpkins;2361450 said:Unlike you I actually prefer to win.
Oh and BTW that 'thug' is a living breathing human being with a family. But you keep up with the stereotyping. I mean hes a criminal and your a good wholesome person right?
Well by all means let's bench Henry Sunday and play Pacman.Dallas;2361462 said:I agree Fuz. I would prefer AJ over Henry. You can argue Pac was playing better than anyone in that secondary when he was out there. He is a baller. How many pass deflections did he have? I don't know how many near ints he had. Henry doesn't even get near the ball anymore.
People forget that these guys are human beings, just like we are.
jimmy40;2361496 said:Well by all means let's bench Henry Sunday and play Pacman.
Unlike you and fuzzylumps I'd rather have a player that doesn't get suspended, but I understand some people don't feel that way.Dallas;2361508 said:That is what I like so much about you jimmy. You make so much sense w/ every post.
I am like..... everytime w/ you.
zrinkill;2358226 said:Fire Wade
Promote Garrett and let him decide who stays and who goes on the coaching staff.
If he wants Stewart ...... keep him.
If he wants to promote Campo do it.
But Wade has lost this team .....
dadymat;2361406 said:we got our 1st pick early this year ....RW11 ...and i for one am happy with it.......its like Christmas in October