DMN Blog: Tony Romo's take on leadership

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Oh_Canada;2630643 said:
Troy led a team of party animals, misfits, drug users and won three rings doing it...go back and watch him command that huddle and his team on the field and you will instantly tell the difference between the two.

You question Troy because he beat the Cards during the reg. season than lost in the playoffs, which somehow diminishes his credentials....ok but didn't Tony beat the Eagles to start the year as he always does and that proceeded to get his *** whipped in the final game of the season...oh by the way the final game of the season with the playoffs on the line? Didn't Tony beat the Giants twice last season than lose at home in the playoffs??? So what is your point? One loss by Troy Aikman in a playoff game within a career filled with huge wins and championships and suddenly he is less of a leader...guess wins in September and Celebrity girlfriends mean more than three Super Bowls.


You missed his point
 

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BigDFan5;2630644 said:
McNabb and Ryan nope

Roth sure he could challenge



How about Jason Campbell is he one of the magic 20?
you think Romo is better than McNabb?
 

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One of these days, you guys will get your wish and Romo won't be here. Instead, he'll come back and beat the **** out of our team.

Maybe we can get Sgt. Slaughter as a leader. He talks very loud and looks like a drill instructor. That's really all we need. No, no...Sam Elliott, that's who we need. I want the Sam Elliott from We Were Soldiers. That guy was mean and tough. Sign him now!
 

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Rampage;2630653 said:
you think Romo is better than McNabb?

**** yeah.

Tony's 2007, his first year as a starter, was better than any year McNabb ever had, and McNabb plays for a coach who thinks running the ball is a trick play.
 

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For the 1000th time.......WE CANT CUT ROMO!!!! (as numerous posts in this thread have advocated)


We gave him a contract worth more than the GDP of a 3rd world country and after reworking the contract several times to free up cap space, most of that contract is now guaranteed.

YOU CANT CUT A PLAYER THAT HAS A ZILLION DOLLAR GUARANTEED CONTRACT......SALARY CAP 101


When you give out contracts like this, the player is yours for years and years and years. Now if the player turns out to not be what you thought he would be.....there is no do-overs.

If you give the wrong player this type of contract, then you are screwed for years. This is not Madden where you can just swap out players and erase your cap hit.


We have to surround Romo with the best talent and half-decent coaching and hope for the best.
 

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wileedog;2630671 said:
**** yeah.

Tony's 2007, his first year as a starter, was better than any year McNabb ever had, and McNabb plays for a coach who thinks running the ball is a trick play.
Romo has more weapons than anybody in the NFL. Mcnabb has westbrook and makes desean Jackson look like he's something special.
 

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Rampage;2630661 said:
wow......


Nice retort

You realize Romo is better than McNabb in every stat category right? Not by a little either
 

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McNabb is so good his own head coach decided to bench him this season.

He's THAT good.
 

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wileedog;2630581 said:
Not to the extent that McNabb has proved he is.

And again, I think Romo is simply a better QB. The numbers bear it out.

Challenge? Maybe. But I don't think he would win it outright for sure. His numbers certainly aren't overtly better so far than Romo's.

And challenge is a pretty foolish metric. You could say Romo could "challenge" anyone in the league for a starting spot outside of Manning and Brady. What does that prove?

Look at who is outright better than Romo, or without blinking you would take ahead of him. Its a small list.
#s are the measure of a QB? Brady's #s are hardly overwhelming, prior to '07.

I wasn't the one who set the "metric" as "challenge"; I was simply responding to it.

McNabb has fairly impressive #s in spite of playing almost all of his career without a great WR or TE. IMO, he's not a HOFer, but he is a good QB who's accomplished far more than Romo has. After this past season's December choke job, I doubt you'd find many teams who'd take Romo over McNabb, though I'm sure you think they would.

I wasn't saying I'd rank Romo in the 20s. I'd probably put him somewhere around 9-12 if I had to rank starting QBs. I think he has the potential to be better, but putting him near the top 5 is laughable when you look at how often he foolishly turns it over, just as it is to think that guys like Jay Cutler and Matt Cassel couldn't challenge Romo for a starting job. Romo hasn't come close to establishing himself to the point that such things are a foregone conclusion, and given his reaction to the embarrassing finale to the season, I'm seriously doubting he ever will.
 

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Oh_Canada;2630643 said:
Troy led a team of party animals, misfits, drug users and won three rings doing it...go back and watch him command that huddle and his team on the field and you will instantly tell the difference between the two. If that was Tony he would be partying with those guys instead of studying film and hung over in practice instead of kicking the idiots *** if they weren't performing.

You question Troy because he beat the Cards during the reg. season than lost in the playoffs, which somehow diminishes his credentials....ok but didn't Tony beat the Eagles to start the year as he always does and that proceeded to get his *** whipped in the final game of the season...oh by the way the final game of the season with the playoffs on the line? Didn't Tony beat the Giants twice last season than lose at home in the playoffs??? So what is your point? One loss by Troy Aikman in a playoff game within a career filled with huge wins and championships and suddenly he is less of a leader...guess wins in September and celebrity girlfriends mean more than three Super Bowls.

It wasn't just one game. Troy didn't win a playoff game from 1996-2000. Right after the Cowboys choked in the playoffs in 1998, they were absolutely embarassed in the playoffs the next year. In his prime, Troy had the best running game of all time, one of the Top 3 defenses year in and year out, a great head coach who lead the organization and put every player in his place. All Troy had to worry about was making 12-14 throws a game, put the ball in Emmitt's hands in the 4th quarter and win 21-13.


Compare that to Romo. No leadership from his coaches or organization. An offensive coordinator who believes in Arena League Football style of offense. Romo is told he needs to go out and score 30 points every week for his team to have a prayer or winning, and he needs to sling the ball around 45 times a game around a crappy offensive line without a mistake. Troy couldn't "lead" in those cirumstances anymore than he could in the last 5 years of his career.
 

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rcaldw;2630385 said:
Actually it is very UNLIKE Peyton Manning, because Peyton Manning exhibited leadership qualities long before they won a Super Bowl, and he was the unquestioned leader on their football team long before they won the Super Bowl. Winning the Super Bowl confirmed Manning's leadership, it didn't create it.

Not true.

Peyton was considered to be one of the biggest chokers in the league and he got the Elway label (meaning you cant win the big one) because the Colts always found a way to lose in big games.

Funny how 1 SB trophy changed 7 years of critcism as a choker and somebody who was riding his daddy's name.
 

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InmanRoshi;2630695 said:
It wasn't just one game. Troy didn't win a playoff game from 1996-2000. Right after the Cowboys choked in the playoffs in 1998, they were absolutely embarassed in the playoffs the next year. In his prime, Troy had the best running game of all time, one of the Top 3 defenses year in and year out, a great head coach who lead the organization and put every player in his place. All Troy had to worry about was making 12-14 throws a game, put the ball in Emmitt's hands in the 4th quarter and win 21-13.


Compare that to Romo. No leadership from his coaches or organization. An offensive coordinator who believes in Arena League Football style of offense. Romo is told he needs to go out and score 30 points every week for his team to have a prayer or winning, and he needs to sling the ball around 45 times a game around a crappy offensive line without a mistake. Troy couldn't "lead" in those cirumstances anymore than he could in the last 5 years of his career.
No one is going to really thrive in the zoo Jerry Jones has created. Doesn't change that his reaction to the end of the season is nowhere near indicative of a leader.
 

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ON EPSN's ticker, it says Romo said "everybody wants everybody back next year."
 

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Double Trouble;2630707 said:
No one is going to really thrive in the zoo Jerry Jones has created. Doesn't change that his reaction to the end of the season is nowhere near indicative of a leader.

What is indicative of a leader in a horrible mess of organization? Slamming the ball down in disgust and just slowly sauntering off the field to stand by yourself and stew, like Troy did in the 1998 playoff game? Or going to Jerry to tell him to fire the head coach so you can bring in Jack Reilly because you're more familiar with his offense.
 

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InmanRoshi;2630695 said:
It wasn't just one game. Troy didn't win a playoff game from 1996-2000. Right after the Cowboys choked in the playoffs in 1998, they were absolutely embarassed in the playoffs the next year. In his prime, Troy had the best running game of all time, one of the Top 3 defenses year in and year out, a great head coach who lead the organization and put every player in his place. All Troy had to worry about was making 12-14 throws a game, put the ball in Emmitt's hands in the 4th quarter and win 21-13.


Compare that to Romo. No leadership from his coaches or organization. An offensive coordinator who believes in Arena League Football style of offense. Romo is told he needs to go out and score 30 points every week for his team to have a prayer or winning, and he needs to sling the ball around 45 times a game around a crappy offensive line without a mistake. Troy couldn't "lead" in those cirumstances anymore than he could in the last 5 years of his career.

For me, that's what makes him being a leader even more important, because this team has such a deficit in that area.

It does make it harder for him than if he had better leadership at the top, but him shrugging his shoulders and saying oh well adds to the lack of leadership, making the problem worse not better.
 
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