DMN Blog: Under no circumstances will there be a coaching change

[cowboyjoe]

Under no circumstances will there be a coaching change

which means

Under no circumstances will there be a playoff victory this year.


As far as someone's comments about sensible fans... if the players don't respect or feel accountable to Wade, is it sensible to keep him? Man, I hope we win every game but we don't look like a well-coached team. It actually costs Jerry nothing more than he is already paying if he let Wade go and promoted Garrett for the rest of the season, so it's not about Jerry's money. If this team doesn't show consistency and keeps appearing to be unprepared, I say give Garrett his shot so we can go into the off-season knowing what we have in him.

To me, not making the playoffs is not making the playoffs. All a 9-7 or 8-8 record does is keep us out of the Top 10 in the Draft. I'm in no way saying tank the season, I am saying I don't see why some fans think an 8-8 year is any better than a 5-11 year. Both are failures to make the playoffs and this franchise is better than that.

totally agree we arent a well coached team
when a defensive player says we dont practice tackling in practice and it make it hard to learn how to tackle live in a game, then that to me is lack of coaching

when the coordinator defesive guru and head coach says, i probably didnt run the blitz packages enough in training camp, its on me, thats lack of coaching

when the team needs obvious work and you let them have friday off, thats lack of coaching, what you could have done was, ok players, if you show me enough good work, film study, practice, then i will let you have friday off, but if you dont, then no friday, extra work day, then let them have the saturday and sunday off

when the head coach says obviously we didnt work enough on pass coverage, when i thought we did on man to man so were going to have to go do zone, thats lack of coaching, you think coach wade, you think
Your suppose to know good ole coach wade

that means you dont have a handle or thought on this team, since yoiuve taken over in 2007, thats lack of coaching to me

again, you come out and say i dont know why we start out slow, thats on you coach wade, no one but you, your the head coach, your hired to know what to do, because of your coaching experience, being a defensive coordinator guru etc.

its time you stop with the excuses coach wade and do your job!

now if jerry jones cant see this and obviously he cant we are in trouble

read what jerry jones said, like coughlin that almost got fired, but stuck with him, thats what jerry is gambling on, now what he sees in games or practices

till the owner gets tough, it always starts with the owner at the top first, and that carries on down to the coaches and players

but jerry cant see that; thats the problem

focus, determination, accountability, being tough must start with the owner first; but it hasnt ever since jimmy johnson left

 

[Kangaroo]

9:32 AM Thu, Oct 15, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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That's what Jerry Jones said today on his show on The Fan.

Jones was asked if the Cowboys had lost Sunday would Wade Phillips remain the coach.

"Yes, he would be and without equivocation," Jones said.

Later Jones said, "Under no circumstances would I make a change. We've got a chance to get a lot of things done and we've got a lot of football left to play and we've got some good people that not only can play it but coach it."

Jones pointed to the NFC East rival New York Giants as an example of patience paying off.

"Two years ago the Giants were seemingly not in disarray but they were in trouble," Jones said. "It was also absolutely expected that something was going to happen with the coach, Coughlin. Maybe during the year but something was going to happen and had to go. And of course [Eli] Manning was on the hotseat and would never be a winner. Well, that same year they won the Super Bowl. You've got to be mindful that this is a long, long journey so to speak ... A lot can happen from the beginning to the end."



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That is a false statement by Jerry if Wade up and has a heart attack and keels over he would have a new headcoach. So Jerry there are circumstances they just do not relate to the play on the field.

Please quit with the Giants reference Wade is no Coughlin

 

[Chief]

Please quit with the Giants reference Wade is no Coughlin

I like how Jerry lectures on that, as if none of us have thought of it. For every Coughlin, there's probably dozens, if not hundreds, of other instances where the current, struggling coach couldn't turn it around, and the team would have been better off if he was gone sooner.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Sensible fans and media already knew this. It's the parrots who are squawking non stop who don't get it.

I respect Jerry not being knee jerk and standing by his HC. You let the season play out and see where we are in the end.

I am going to have to agree here.

Jerry will let thing "play out". He is willing to eat the season so he doesnt have to "eat" that hiring Wade for the wrong reasons was WRONG.

He can let the season end and just no renew Wade. No firing.

Also, why isnt the media squawking about Wade and getting a new deal. Answer: Because its obvious. There is no way he is coming back. There is nothing that can back up justifying "talk" of a new contract.

 

[superpunk]

Jerry - crusher of dreams.

 

[SibannacRex]

9:32 AM Thu, Oct 15, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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That's what Jerry Jones said today on his show on The Fan.

Jones was asked if the Cowboys had lost Sunday would Wade Phillips remain the coach.

"Yes, he would be and without equivocation," Jones said.

Later Jones said, "Under no circumstances would I make a change. We've got a chance to get a lot of things done and we've got a lot of football left to play and we've got some good people that not only can play it but coach it."

Jones pointed to the NFC East rival New York Giants as an example of patience paying off.

"Two years ago the Giants were seemingly not in disarray but they were in trouble," Jones said. "It was also absolutely expected that something was going to happen with the coach, Coughlin. Maybe during the year but something was going to happen and had to go. And of course [Eli] Manning was on the hotseat and would never be a winner. Well, that same year they won the Super Bowl. You've got to be mindful that this is a long, long journey so to speak ... A lot can happen from the beginning to the end."



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For every 2007 NY Giants, there are hundreds of teams that go down in flames. Usually there is a real reason why the team is in trouble and any hints early on should not be ignored.

 

[Stash]

Jerry - crusher of dreams.

going on 13 years...

Or is it 14 years?

I've lost count.

 

[cowboyjoe]

So you are saying that's not what you heard from Mickey........

that is what i heard from mickey, espn, etc

 

[cowboyjoe]

I like how Jerry lectures on that, as if none of us have thought of it. For every Coughlin, there's probably dozens, if not hundreds, of other instances where the current, struggling coach couldn't turn it around, and the team would have been better off if he was gone sooner.

i wished that wade would wake up one day chief, and say enough is enough, quit this puppy dog behavior with the players, get tough on them and the asst coaches, start doing his job and coach a team like he should with accountablity, no more excuses and making players tow the line, and no more waiting to wait to fix things, like saying, i probably didnt work blitz run defense enough or i though the players had the man to man defense down. Or saying i dont know why we start out slow! He is the head coach, he is suppose to know;

probably not going to happen, but i wished it would, then wade could win a super bowl with the cowboys, and go riding off into the sunset

 

[Da Hammer]

as much as i hate wade, there really is no point in firing him this season as ive said the last couple weeks. this was a move that should have been done at the end of last season. at this point firing wade will result in no real change, instead things would probably get even worse with Red in charge or Campo part 2. cowboys fans just gotta be patient till the off-season when hopefully finally jerry gets rid of that clown.

 

[Doomsay]

Jones pointed to the NFC East rival New York Giants as an example of patience paying off.

"Two years ago the Giants were seemingly not in disarray but they were in trouble," Jones said. "It was also absolutely expected that something was going to happen with the coach, Coughlin. Maybe during the year but something was going to happen and had to go. And of course [Eli] Manning was on the hotseat and would never be a winner. Well, that same year they won the Super Bowl. You've got to be mindful that this is a long, long journey so to speak ... A lot can happen from the beginning to the end."



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Seems like Jones evoked the 2007 Giants as we entered our December run last year. How'd that work out? We have nothing in common with that Superbowl team and his attempted comparisons are idiotic.

Knowledgeable fans know that Wade Phillips isn't a qualified head coach and that no other owner, save Al Davis, would of considered hiring him in 2007. His firing now or at the end of the season is academic, he should have never been hired.

 

[khiladi]

"Two years ago the Giants were seemingly not in disarray but they were in trouble," Jones said. "It was also absolutely expected that something was going to happen with the coach, Coughlin. Maybe during the year but something was going to happen and had to go. And of course [Eli] Manning was on the hotseat and would never be a winner. Well, that same year they won the Super Bowl. You've got to be mindful that this is a long, long journey so to speak ... A lot can happen from the beginning to the end."

What is up with using exceptional circumstances to justify a particular move? While the Giants may be an example of the above, there are a thousand other times where the situation ended up in failure. Just because Tom Landry started off major suckage and went on to become one of the greatest coaches, if not, greatest coach in NFL history, doesn't mean that everybody else will. For every Landry, there is like 6000 bum coaches that just suck...

 

[KingintheNorth]

 

[Doomsay]

A more rational comparison would have been with Wade's previous coaching attempts which yielded 0 playoff victories and declining performance with each team that he "led". We have a carbon copy scenario playing out here, much more relevant than a comparison to a team with a professional GM and a real and empowered coach.

 

[Doomsay]

You don't win a footrace by stopping to change your shoes halfway through it. There's no HC change out there that would salvage this season if it doesn't go well for Wade. The best you would do would be to get a head start on 2010.

Agreed, but at least that's something positive rather than just tending to Jerry's ego and/ or pocketbook in the interim.

 

[peplaw06]

thats not what ive heard from mickey spagnola and fox, etc
reports were that jerry jones wants to recoup all of the money he spent on the new stadium and it would be 2 to 3 years before he made a coaching change

Link or it didn't happen...

Seriously, that's a ridiculous statement. He's paying Wade a salary. It's not like he's not spending any money on a coach right now. (Insert obvious joke about Wade not coaching like he's making a salary.)

You can say he doesn't want to spend MORE money, and that might make some sense. But I still don't think Jerry would say that. You realize he's spent something like $800 million on the stadium.

That would be along the same lines of thinking we're not gonna extend Ware until he recoups it. Or hey let's just go 7 years without fielding a team, save $100 mil + a year in player salary.

 

[baj1dallas]

Sensible fans and media already knew this. It's the parrots who are squawking non stop who don't get it.

Norm Hitzges was going on the other night about how Jerry was going to make himself the head coach sometime this season, because it's something he's always wanted and he's old.

 

[Idgit]

Agreed, but at least that's something positive rather than just tending to Jerry's ego and/ or pocketbook in the interim.

But it means restricting your search to only available former coaches, or promoting someone from your own team. That goes for coordinating talent, too, because Wade's also the DC and promoting Garrett would leave a DC and OC vacancy.

We're better off playing the season and keeping options open for the off season.

 

[iceberg]

Thats true Hostile, but let me ask you this;
what if the cowboys dont make the playoffs, have another year like last year, and jerry jones still sticks with wade. What do you say then Hostile?

don't you have some "wade sucks cause this journalist says so" articles to pummell us with?

 

[dbair1967]

2nd jerry himself said to mickey, fox that he plans to recoup his money first from the new stadium,and he has no plans to spend money on coaches or players till that money is recouped

Not really sure I get what you are trying to convey here. He's gonna have to have coaches and players, which he is going to have to pay.

Wade's contract is up after this season. He doesnt have to fire him or anything at that point to bring in someone else. Wade makes 3.5mils a yr or so I believe. Odds are the next coach will make around that, if not more.