DMN: Blog: Wade on the Hot Seat

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JBond;2133726 said:
This is stupid, in my opinion. Hot seat? It's not like he went 1-15. I know about Garret, but the term "on the hot seat" makes it sound like he is doing a horrible job. Lazy writers.

I agree. Wade in his 1st season as HC did a pretty darn good job. No doubt heading into this season the expectation are higher than last year but we are not talking about losing coach coming off a bad season.
 

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JBond;2133726 said:
This is stupid, in my opinion. Hot seat? It's not like he went 1-15. I know about Garret, but the term "on the hot seat" makes it sound like he is doing a horrible job. Lazy writers.
Meaning Wades on the hot seat because we have JG nibbling at his toes as our head coach.
 

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Losing in December isn't a quality that Wade brought to the team. It is Wade who inherited it last year from the team.
 

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Doomsday101;2133711 said:
Wade is the only one who has to face the media and he is the one they point to when the team loses. Maybe you should have him as DC plus/plus. Wade is the HC plain and simple. Garrett may one day become the HC but as of now he isn't.


Dont be naive... or maybe its PC. Things are not what they seem.
 

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YoMick;2133780 said:
Dont be naive... or maybe its PC. Things are not what they seem.

In this case it is. Wade is the HC and when the time comes that Garrett gets named Head coach I just hope he get more than 1 season before people start complaining. I like having Jason but no one know what kind of HC he will be and the role of HC is more than just running offense or defense. Wade responsibility is 53 players not just calling the defense and when they come up short it is Wade who has to stand up and be held responsible. Sorry I don't see this as Co-HC I do think they work together just like any coaching staff is expected to do.
 

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The Sporting News said the exact same thing about Tom Coughlin last year. Especially after Tiki left and several of their most marketable players were reportedly not happy.

Not saying it means anything...just saying.
 

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I think Wade is firmly on the hot seat this season.

And as others mentioned, I think nothing less than a Super Bowl appearance guarantees his job.

This team has as much talent as any in the league and Jerry Jones knows that better than anybody.

He also knows that he has his head-coach-in-waiting.

Combine that with last season's disappointing fade, mix in "13 Pro Bowlers" and sprinkle with "well we were 13-3" and you can see just why Wade needs to win and win big to keep his job.

Other than significant injury, I don't see anywhere else to place blame if this team isn't in the big game.
 

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stasheroo;2133814 said:
I think Wade is firmly on the hot seat this season.

And as others mentioned, I think nothing less than a Super Bowl appearance guarantees his job.

This team has as much talent as any in the league and Jerry Jones knows that better than anybody.

He also knows that he has his head-coach-in-waiting.

Combine that with last season's disappointing fade, mix in "13 Pro Bowlers" and sprinkle with "well we were 13-3" and you can see just why Wade needs to win and win big to keep his job.

Other than significant injury, I don't see anywhere else to place blame if this team isn't in the big game.

Then the same will be expected when or if Garrett is named? 1 or 2 season and if we win no SB he is out of here?
 

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Hostile;2133800 said:
The Sporting News said the exact same thing about Tom Coughlin last year. Especially after Tiki left and several of their most marketable players were reportedly not happy.

Not saying it means anything...just saying.

Not to mention too Dungy was also on the hot seat in the final Dec '06 stretch(where their run D was getting killed), and Cowher was as well in '05 after they lost to Cincy at home to fall to 7-5.

Just saying too...
 

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stasheroo;2133814 said:
I think Wade is firmly on the hot seat this season.

And as others mentioned, I think nothing less than a Super Bowl appearance guarantees his job.

This team has as much talent as any in the league and Jerry Jones knows that better than anybody.

He also knows that he has his head-coach-in-waiting.

Combine that with last season's disappointing fade, mix in "13 Pro Bowlers" and sprinkle with "well we were 13-3" and you can see just why Wade needs to win and win big to keep his job.

Other than significant injury, I don't see anywhere else to place blame if this team isn't in the big game.

Who cares? I believe the ULTIMATE goal is to WIN the SUPER BOWL. We're not the Philly Eagles, where NFCE championships are the ultimate goals every year.:laugh1:
 

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YoMick;2133679 said:
In a perfect world we would have gotten Wade as DC last year and Garrett as OC and someone else as HC. 1 out of 3..... well... maybe not... maybe we did get something similar. Wade is all over this defense. As far as I am concerned Wade is DC plus and Garrett is OC plus.... Garrett is driving the engine that makes this team go - THE OFFENSE. Wade and Garrett are Co-HC's IMO.
the problem with this statement..."the offense makes this team go"....is why we did not win a playoff game. the NYG won the Super Bowl with defense...if Garret learned from Jimmy/Norv, then he saw we won with defense and running the ball. We emphasized the pass too much last year and we were left hanging when TO got hurt and/or the pass protection failed Romo...this team will not win in December until our defense plays up to it's draft status/dollars invested. Again, Jason did not look so smart in December.
 

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bbailey423;2133830 said:
the problem with this statement..."the offense makes this team go"....is why we did not win a playoff game. the NYG won the Super Bowl with defense...if Garret learned from Jimmy/Norv, then he saw we won with defense and running the ball. We emphasized the pass too much last year and we were left hanging when TO got hurt and/or the pass protection failed Romo...this team will not win in December until our defense plays up to it's draft status/dollars invested. Again, Jason did not look so smart in December.

I take it you didn't watch the playoff game then, where we had time-consuming drives with MB3 having a near-career day.

Actually-Garrett's downfall in this game was NOT EXPLOITING the Giants' depleted secondary. No Sam Madison, then Aaron Ross goes down, and he STILL couldn't do jack.(alot like last year when we failed to exploit Seattle's depleted secondary, instead relying on a conservative, run-oriented game plan)
 

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leeblair;2133515 said:
If I had been Jerry Jones, I would have fired Wade after the playoff loss to New York.

In my opinion, there is no excuse for the way the team played against Detroit, Washington, Philadelphia, and then New York in the playoffs.

There were warning signs everywhere; the team wasn't playing well. They barely pulled out the win against Detroit, and Philadelphia hands it to us at home. Washington completely shut us down, and we'd barely beaten them the first time.

There is no excuse for the Cowboys coaching staff to have allowed the team to get that out of sync at the end of the season. They are supposed to be the best.

But, that doesn't mean that Jason Garret takes the head coaching spot, either. He bears some of the blame, too.
Its very refreshing reading a comment like this from a cowboys fan,you are right on the money with this!
 

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Doomsday101;2133815 said:
Then the same will be expected when or if Garrett is named? 1 or 2 season and if we win no SB he is out of here?

Possibly.

I think Wade was originally hired to essentially 'fix' the defense.

A significant investment had been made on that side of the ball with underwhelming results.

Jerry wanted to stick with the 3-4 but hire someone to get more out of it.

Wade had done a great job with the Chargers' "D" so he got the job over an offensive mind in Norv Turner.

I also think part of the reason why Norv got the job in San Diego was because they had been running his offense.

Easier to tinker with coaches than to make wholesale changes.

But the fact is that this is an immensely talented team stocked with big money players and high draft picks.

Jerry Jones has done everything he can to stock this team to be successful and his patience is undoubtedly wearing thin.
 

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stasheroo;2133839 said:
Possibly.

I think Wade was originally hired to essentially 'fix' the defense.

A significant investment had been made on that side of the ball with underwhelming results.

Jerry wanted to stick with the 3-4 but hire someone to get more out of it.

Wade had done a great job with the Chargers' "D" so he got the job over an offensive mind in Norv Turner.

I also think part of the reason why Norv got the job in San Diego was because they had been running his offense.

Easier to tinker with coaches than to make wholesale changes.

But the fact is that this is an immensely talented team stocked with big money players and high draft picks.

Jerry Jones has done everything he can to stock this team to be successful and his patience is undoubtedly wearing thin.

Wade also had a mammoth Jamaal Williams at the nose, Shaun Merriman, Shaun Phillips, Louis Castillo(pretty much everyone in his front 7 had pass rushing skills), and Quinten Jammer in the secondary.

Pt being that you need the PERSONNEL to fit your SCHEMES. The more I think about it, I'm not THAT sure if everyone in the Dallas D fits Wades aggressive 3-4 schemes. Yes, they are very good players, but at the same time, it's not like the Chargers had Roy Williams and Akin Adoyele on their D either.
 

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Boysboy;2133848 said:
Wade also had a mammoth Jamaal Williams at the nose, Shaun Merriman, Shaun Phillips, Louis Castillo(pretty much everyone in his front 7 had pass rushing skills), and Quinten Jammer in the secondary.

I would put Dallas' overall defensive talent on par with San Diego's. I think Wade's scheme helped the players as much as the players helped the scheme. But that's another topic altogether.

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Pt being that you need the PERSONNEL to fit your SCHEMES. The more I think about it, I'm not THAT sure if everyone in the Dallas D fits Wades aggressive 3-4 schemes. Yes, they are very good players, but at the same time, it's not like the Chargers had Roy Williams and Akin Adoyele on their D either.

Again, I think he's now got more talent overall than he did in San Diego.

No more excuses.
 

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bbailey423;2133530 said:
With all that said, here is what I am trying to say, Garrett did not look like such a genuis his second time through the division....and he certainly did not look like a genuis in December. So while I think he is a promising coach, we will not win BECAUSE of offense...and when we win, and win because of the defense...Jerry cannot just discard Wade.

I thought he had a very smart gameplan against the Giants in Giants stadium. The offense was more than fine and didn't allow a sack in that game against the vaunted Giants pass rush.

I think we all agree that he had a bad game against the Eagles, a team with probably the second best D-Coordinator in the game (Monte Kiffin #1). And then I'm not sure how one can gripe about the Commanders game since that practically didn't count. And for the most part, I'm not sure how anybody could gripe against him in the playoff game. Dallas had 345 yards of total offense and had god awful field position for the first 3 quarters of the game. They still scored 17 points, and that was with Gurode's problems snapping from the shotgun, a hurt Owens, and the penalties.

I'm not ready to put the genius label on Garrett, but I think that some of the fans are looking for reasons why Garrett isn't that good. Sure, he had a couple of rough games, but none of the NFC East rivals showed me that they could really get a handle on him.




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dcfanatic;2133504 said:
Wade has to win the Super Bowl to keep his job.

That's my opinion and I am sticking to it.

Reason?

Because Jerry isn't paying Jason Garrett $3 mil again next season to be the Offensive Coordinator unless he's forced to by the public pressure of keeping him at that position because it would be a horrible PR move to fire Wade if he wins a SB.

And if you bring up Jimmy Johnson's name here it better be in agreement with me because even Jerry knows that he made a big mistake there and he has to have learned from it.

If the Cowboys make it to the Super Bowl and lose then Jerry can easily say in his mind that JG will take over and get them their again in 2009 and he'll be in the difference maker so they can win it.

If the Cowboys just get into the playoffs and lose at some point the same scenario exists as above.

Wade has to make it so that Jerry doesn't have a choice in the matter of paying JG big money again as the OC and also in keeping him as the HC.

Well, if the Cowboys do well and win all the marbles, then Wade could say he is going to retire. Or, Jerry could promote him to VP-player personnel.
 

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stasheroo;2133839 said:
Possibly.

I think Wade was originally hired to essentially 'fix' the defense.

A significant investment had been made on that side of the ball with underwhelming results.

Jerry wanted to stick with the 3-4 but hire someone to get more out of it.

Wade had done a great job with the Chargers' "D" so he got the job over an offensive mind in Norv Turner.

I also think part of the reason why Norv got the job in San Diego was because they had been running his offense.

Easier to tinker with coaches than to make wholesale changes.

But the fact is that this is an immensely talented team stocked with big money players and high draft picks.

Jerry Jones has done everything he can to stock this team to be successful and his patience is undoubtedly wearing thin.

I don't disagree with that but we are talking 1 year with Wade and pretty much a different staff and I think what they did in their 1st season in Dallas was very promising and gives reason for many around the NFL to think Dallas is the favorite to win it all this year. I don't think Wade though should take any blame beyond last year but it seems he is has been raked over the coals for past failure before he got here.
 

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I'd say Wade retires after this season no matter what.

What worries me is how the team will fare this year, given their state of mind at the end of last year.

Wade's history is one of taking over a team and having some success, then apparently growing complacent; and eventually the team plays so poorly he is fired.

This worries me. We assume that the Cowboys will start back like they did at the first of last season- but what if they start back like they played at the end of last season?
 
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