News: DMN: Daryl 'Moose' Johnston: Johnny Manziel 'would really struggle' in Dallas

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I still can't understand the outrage caused by a young man that enjoys the party scene. He would a normal kid if he didn't play in the NFL and he hasn't done anything as bad as the players on the 1990s teams.

he couldn't get himself together to go play starting QB because he was still drunk/hungover
in bed. His job is heading up a NFL team and you dont understand that?
 

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Maybe the fans need to loosen up. After all, Jerry drinks quite a bit and Johnny can join him

I get you enjoy partying and the difference is your not a starting QB in the NFL
I party and JJones but on Sunday his dont on the field
 

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I still can't understand the outrage caused by a young man that enjoys the party scene. He would a normal kid if he didn't play in the NFL and he hasn't done anything as bad as the players on the 1990s teams.

But back in the 90's you could keep most of those things quiet.

Nowadays you can't scratch yourself without somebody filming it on their phone.

He be a lightning rod on the most high profile team in the NFL.

No thanks.
 

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I still can't understand the outrage caused by a young man that enjoys the party scene. He would a normal kid if he didn't play in the NFL and he hasn't done anything as bad as the players on the 1990s teams.

There are "responsibilities" that come along with being an NFL QB. He is doing what people find amusing that Gronkowski does on a regular basis, but that is the standard expectation.

Don't ask me why that is an on-going thing. Joe Namath was a party animal and became a celebrity for it.

But he does not check all the boxes.

He breaks several of Coach Parcells' QB commandments, which should be burned in everyone's mind.

Those in bold, he has shattered. The italicized, I am not sure of.

1. Ignore other opinions – Press or TV, agents or advisors, family or wives, friends or relatives, fans or hangers on – ignore them on matters of football, they don’t know what’s happening here.
2. Clowns can’t run a huddle – don’t forget to have fun but don’t be the class clown. Clowns and leaders don’t mix. Clowns can’t run a huddle.
3. Fat QBs can’t avoid the rush – A quarterback throws with his legs more than his arm. Squat and run.
4. Know your job cold – this is not a game without errors. Keep yours to a minimum. Study.
5. Know your own players – Who’s fast? Who can catch? Who needs encouragement? Be precise. Know your opponent.
6. Be the same guy every day – in condition. Preparing to lead. Studying your plan. A coach can’t prepare you for every eventuality. Prepare yourself and remember, impulse decisions usually equal mistakes.
7. Throwing the ball away is a good play – sacks, interceptions and fumbles are bad plays. Protect against those.
8. Learn to manage the game – personnel, play call, motions, ball handling, proper reads, accurate throws, play fakes. Clock. Clock. Clock. Don’t you ever lose track of the clock.
9. Get your team in the end zone – passing stats and TD passes are not how you’re going to be judged. Your job is to get your team in the end zone and that is how you will be judged.
10. Don’t panic – when all around you is in chaos, you must be the hand that steers the ship. If you have a panic button so will everyone else. Our ship can’t have a panic button.
11. Don’t be a celebrity QB – we don’t need any of those. We need battlefield commanders that are willing to fight it out, every day, every week and every season and lead their team to win after win after win.
 

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I still can't understand the outrage caused by a young man that enjoys the party scene. He would a normal kid if he didn't play in the NFL and he hasn't done anything as bad as the players on the 1990s teams.

SMH at people who believe this.
 

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I still can't understand the outrage caused by a young man that enjoys the party scene. He would a normal kid if he didn't play in the NFL and he hasn't done anything as bad as the players on the 1990s teams.

It's a different time with all the social media. We live in an outrage society, and now everyone has a voice.
 

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I still can't understand the outrage caused by a young man that enjoys the party scene. He would a normal kid if he didn't play in the NFL and he hasn't done anything as bad as the players on the 1990s teams.

True but he does play for the NFL and how he has conducted himself since draft day has been a joke. These guys are paid million unlike the "Normal Kids" As QB he is the focal point of a team and Dallas does not need this fool. Stop comparing these players to some random kid out of school again NFL pays them damn good money and they do expect a certain conduct out of these players if they can't manage that then they don't need to be in the NFL
 

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Maybe the fans need to loosen up. After all, Jerry drinks quite a bit and Johnny can join him

Dude is obvious this guy has a problem. There is nothing wrong with going and having a drink but when you let it interfere with your responsibilities it becomes a problem. And he's done more than enough than to chalk it up to "a kid being a kid".
 

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Dude is obvious this guy has a problem. There is nothing wrong with going and having a drink but when you let it interfere with your responsibilities it becomes a problem. And he's done more than enough than to chalk it up to "a kid being a kid".

I agree he can be a kid somewhere else the NFL pays him to be a man. This is not burger king or some part time job this is the NFL and I think way too often people want to chalk behavior of these players as, well they are just kids. In the NFL you will be rewarded greatly but with it comes a lot of responsibility. Most would give anything to have the opportunity to play if that meant you can't drink, get high I think many would gladly give those things up and if you can't maybe Burger King is where you need to be
 

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Why don't QB's get cut slack?

Humm...... Well, look at it this way. This is a business, we all hear that and sometimes I wonder if we actually fully understand what that means? The NFL is the biggest show on the planet. It's bigger then any other sport, show or entertainment brand anywhere. More over, you have 52 other guys that depend on the QB to win. Winning impacts money all the way around. It impacts careers and not just for those 52 other guys but for everybody associated with a Franchise and really, even all the other teams. By extension, it effects the families of all of those people. This is the reality of the situation. It's easy to just say, "Hey, he's a 21 year old kid. Which one of us can say that we were not the same at that same age?"

Well, the fact of the matter is that he's not 21 anymore and he's far from a normal 21 year old even when he was. He is one of a major faces of the biggest brands in the world. His actions reflect on so much more then just himself. That's the way it is and no amount of justification will change that. At the end of the day, it is business and business is good if you have the maturity and the intelligence to go along with the physical talent.

Johnny Manziel in Dallas is a mistake IMO. If you actually like the kid and you want what's best for him, I think bringing him to Dallas is probably about the worst thing you can do for him. JMO.
 

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he couldn't get himself together to go play starting QB because he was still drunk/hungover
in bed. His job is heading up a NFL team and you dont understand that?

I understand that he is very young and that he will mature. He is improving more and more. Let Romo mentor him for the remained of Tony's career and the back-up QB problem could be solved. I also understand that could mature into a starting QB. He is definitely better than some scrub that the team will draft in the 4th round and another thing that will motivate him is that he wants to be a Cowboy. Being in Cleveland does not motivate many players. I have made the point several times about the Super Bowl Cowboy teams of the 90's make Johnny Football look like a saint in comparison. I will this, fans and the media has went after Johnny like no other player in the league.
 

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Why don't QB's get cut slack?

Humm...... Well, look at it this way. This is a business, we all hear that and sometimes I wonder if we actually fully understand what that means? The NFL is the biggest show on the planet. It's bigger then any other sport, show or entertainment brand anywhere. More over, you have 52 other guys that depend on the QB to win. Winning impacts money all the way around. It impacts careers and not just for those 52 other guys but for everybody associated with a Franchise and really, even all the other teams. By extension, it effects the families of all of those people. This is the reality of the situation. It's easy to just say, "Hey, he's a 21 year old kid. Which one of us can say that we were not the same at that same age?"

Well, the fact of the matter is that he's not 21 anymore and he's far from a normal 21 year old even when he was. He is one of a major faces of the biggest brands in the world. His actions reflect on so much more then just himself. That's the way it is and no amount of justification will change that. At the end of the day, it is business and business is good if you have the maturity and the intelligence to go along with the physical talent.

Johnny Manziel in Dallas is a mistake IMO. If you actually like the kid and you want what's best for him, I think bringing him to Dallas is probably about the worst thing you can do for him. JMO.

Actually soccer is the most popular sport.
 

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I understand that he is very young and that he will mature. He is improving more and more. Let Romo mentor him for the remained of Tony's career and the back-up QB problem could be solved. I also understand that could mature into a starting QB. He is definitely better than some scrub that the team will draft in the 4th round and another thing that will motivate him is that he wants to be a Cowboy. Being in Cleveland does not motivate many players. I have made the point several times about the Super Bowl Cowboy teams of the 90's make Johnny Football look like a saint in comparison. I will this, fans and the media has went after Johnny like no other player in the league.

If Manziel were a LB or an OL or a WR or almost any other position, then yeah. Compare the QBs, Aikman and Manziel. Aikman was exactly what you want as the leader. Manziel is exactly his opposite. The argument that he would have been a Saint on those 90s teams, losses steam if you view it in that light IMO.
 
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I still can't understand the outrage caused by a young man that enjoys the party scene. He would a normal kid if he didn't play in the NFL and he hasn't done anything as bad as the players on the 1990s teams.

When you are a young kid that might have a normal 9-5 minimum wage job or slightly better...not much harm in it.

When you are a first round pick in the NFL who is going to get millions of dollars and even more if you do what you are told....you are harming yourself and your team mates in acting like a foolish kid.

But I don't think some people will ever understand the concept of responsibility and acting professional.
 

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I will also state that using the excuse of well the 90's cowboys did it and Irvin snorted coke and the like is a weak excuse because it does not take into account of how Irvin hurt this team with his actions. It was some years before Jerry would even take a chance on a good first round player with any issues because of Irvin and the 90's "white House". It is the very reason we took a mediocre Greg Ellis in the draft over a Way more talented player like Randy Moss.

So yes it does have repercussions on teams not only in a player missing time on the field due to league suspensions but is also hurts the teams in other ways.
 

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I will also state that using the excuse of well the 90's cowboys did it and Irvin snorted coke and the like is a weak excuse because it does not take into account of how Irvin hurt this team with his actions. It was some years before Jerry would even take a chance on a good first round player with any issues because of Irvin and the 90's "white House". It is the very reason we took a mediocre Greg Ellis in the draft over a Way more talented player like Randy Moss.

So yes it does have repercussions on teams not only in a player missing time on the field due to league suspensions but is also hurts the teams in other ways.


Really great point BP.

Nice post.
 

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If Manziel were a LB or an OL or a WR or almost any other position, then yeah. Compare the QBs, Aikman and Manziel. Aikman was exactly what you want as the leader. Manziel is exactly his opposite. The argument that he would have been a Saint on those 90s teams if you view it in that light IMO.

The state of this team right now I would just as soon see the Cowboys put the clamps on all players. 4-12 teams should not be tolerating any misconduct. Last 2 years we start the season off with guys facing suspension. Frankly we are not good enough to be missing players because they are idiots. I will say this about the 90's team they let the success go to their heads this team has yet to achieve anything.
 
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