DMN: ESPN's John Clayton: 'I really do' think Manziel's time with Cleveland is over; Dallas...

[joseephuss]

Maybe, but Dallas wins the division if they had either of those QB's. Case should have been our back-up and this season would have not been a waste......IMO of course.

I disagree. I don't think either QB changes Dallas fortunes this season.

 

[8FOR!3]

You take Manziel and a draft pick (Wentz or Prescott I'm hoping), Manziel can come in right now and maybe win some games with Romo out and you hope one of the two pans out post Romo.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

 

[Novacek84]

Unless Jerry is going to set up a Josh Hamilton type babysitting operation with a sponsor that is with Manziel constantly then I don't think you go down this road. I realize Cleveland, led by that clown Haslam, is a Mickey Mouse operation and Jerry is used to managing reclamation projects but Manziel has shown he doesn't get it. Unless you're gonna sponsor him 24-7 it's not worth the risk because he's just gonna fall off a cliff on his own. Just look at the evidence so far.

 

[jnday]

Enough with this "he's just a kid" horse **** already. He's a grown man, he'd be the face of a billion dollar business. You have to be absolutely brain dead to give him that responsibility. He can't handle it, he has never shown that he can. Even in a **** market he couldn't get his crap together. Stop acting like he's some random 13 year old that got hammered the first time. He's got responsibilities, other peoples lives (livelihoods) are at stake. People are counting on him and he's shown over and over again that he can't be counted on. He's a lying, selfish sack of ****, a drug addict, a cokehead who doesn't care about anybody but himself. There is absolutely nothing that would suggest he can handle a starting job, there is absolutely nothing that suggest he has changed or even started to changed. He is a complete idiot that will be out of the NFL within 2 years a la Jamarcus Russell. And then 5 years from now he's gonna attempt a comeback because at some point he's gonna grow and smarten up, but it'll be too late by then. Another Vince Young, only dumber and less talented.

He has improved the more he plays and yes, he is s kid.?hd is not a grown man like Irvin was when he was snorting his lines of coke. Johnny had tons of money before being drafted and he likes to party. Very few kids his age doesn't . In five years , the guy could easily be one if the better QBs in the league . He just needs to mature. Romo wasn't that great until he matured. He turned the ball over on s consistent basis. You are blasting a kid for having problems , but you overlook the former Cowboys that was much worse . At least Johnny is showing signs of improving on the field and working on fixing his problems off the field .

 

[jnday]

Manziel was hanging out in Vegas yesterday, the day before a game.

Still want the scum here?

I wish I was in Vegas yesterday myself . Why is that a problem?

 

[manster4ever]

Peter King just said he never showed this morning for his mandatory checkup for the concussion protocol he's currently in. What a clown. The fact that this board has a 9 page thread on this guy is telling. Sadly, I could still see JJ trading for him.

 

[Killerinstinct]

Peter King just said he never showed this morning for his mandatory checkup for the concussion protocol he's currently in. What a clown. The fact that this board has a 9 page thread on this guy is telling. Sadly, I could still see JJ trading for him.

He has been trying to find a way out of Cle since he was drafted.

Browns GM and Coach fired. In all likelihood the new GM and Coach will want to start with their guy at QB. Get used to Manziel to Dallas threads because there is a very good chance it could happen. IMO

 

[birdwells1]

I'm fine with it if he comes cheap, but yeah, only as insurance. Draft a quarterback.

I really respect your opinion, but I dont see how anyone could think that Manzel and the Cowboys wouldn't end up on TMZ every other night. What has he shown, as a player, that makes him attractive?

 

[percyhoward]

What has he shown, as a player, that makes him attractive?

His price tag for a backup.

 

[jnday]

He has been trying to find a way out of Cle since he was drafted.

Browns GM and Coach fired. In all likelihood the new GM and Coach will want to start with their guy at QB. Get used to Manziel to Dallas threads because there is a very good chance it could happen. IMO

I hope it happens just do that I can watch all these posters fall off of their high horse. After all , good fans support the players on their favorite team. Johnny wanted to be in Dallas and I expect him to be an improved player when he is in Dallas.

 

[HanfordDixon]

Agree with you overall, however......not sure Mincey (unproductive) or letting JG mantra of drafting guys who do things "right way" lends any credence to what you're saying.

Johnny needs to thank Mike Evans for getting him in the league. Johnny's hat size has grown continuously since the Heisman. He is a celebrity QB, in the news for all the wrong reasons (ala Romo early years). You don't live in Cleveland!!! (ala Sam Wyche)

If you understand my point, yes, it lends credence to what I am saying. Low-character losers are forever losers. You can have a few bad apple types if you have a strong locker room. The mix went bad this year, and adding a loser like Manziel would only make it worse. You think Romo has any interest in this clown?

 

[Cmac]

If you understand my point, yes, it lends credence to what I am saying. Low-character losers are forever losers. You can have a few bad apple types if you have a strong locker room. The mix went bad this year, and adding a loser like Manziel would only make it worse. You think Romo has any interest in this clown?

...not worried about Romo's interest...its JJ an JG being part of such a charade that scares me.

Johnny is part of the reason Petine is unemployed now....I do think he could bring the same to JG as the only good thing.

 

[Novacek84]

He has improved the more he plays and yes, he is s kid.?hd is not a grown man like Irvin was when he was snorting his lines of coke. Johnny had tons of money before being drafted and he likes to party. Very few kids his age doesn't . In five years , the guy could easily be one if the better QBs in the league . He just needs to mature. Romo wasn't that great until he matured. He turned the ball over on s consistent basis. You are blasting a kid for having problems , but you overlook the former Cowboys that was much worse . At least Johnny is showing signs of improving on the field and working on fixing his problems off the field .

Comparing Manziel to Romo is ridiculous. Tony had zero off the field addiction issues. Cmon man.

 

[Cowboy_Shawn]

Peter King just said he never showed this morning for his mandatory checkup for the concussion protocol he's currently in. What a clown. The fact that this board has a 9 page thread on this guy is telling. Sadly, I could still see JJ trading for him.

I read those tweets as well. There is also a story out there saying that he showed up to practice inebriated earlier in the week.

It's a joke that we have fans who actually want that immature scrub on the roster. Unfortunately I think you're right about Jerry. He's all about showmanship and bringing in popular names just to drum up interests in his team.

 

[HanfordDixon]

...not worried about Romo's interest...its JJ an JG being part of such a charade that scares me.

Johnny is part of the reason Petine is unemployed now....I do think he could bring the same to JG as the only good thing.

Fire Garrett. Seriously? That's idiotic.

 

[jnday]

Comparing Manziel to Romo is ridiculous. Tony had zero off the field addiction issues. Cmon man.

No, but his play on the field was similar. Romo had many games that he didn't play well in his early career. Until Johnny commits a real crime off the field, I don't see the problem . The kid likes booze, women and he likes to party . He sounds like s normal kid his age, but posters on here seems to think kids his age are all choir boys .

 

[erod]

No, but his play on the field was similar. Romo had many games that he didn't play well in his early career. Until Johnny commits a real crime off the field, I don't see the problem . The kid likes booze, women and he likes to party . He sounds like s normal kid his age, but posters on here seems to think kids his age are all choir boys .

How many successful coke-snorting, hard-drinking, party animal quarterbacks can you name in the NFL today?

The dude hates to watch film and do real quarterback things. He's a clown.

 

[Novacek84]

No, but his play on the field was similar. Romo had many games that he didn't play well in his early career. Until Johnny commits a real crime off the field, I don't see the problem . The kid likes booze, women and he likes to party . He sounds like s normal kid his age, but posters on here seems to think kids his age are all choir boys .

The point is most normal kids his age aren't playing in the NFL and expected to act like responsible adults. It's part of the package Johnny signed up for. Cowboys have enough issues without adding this headache.

 

[birdwells1]

His price tag for a backup.

But we had cheap options this year and we see how that turned out. Cheap but can't play is not good. Manziel still has maturity issues that would be compounded by the Cowboy's spotlight.