News: DMN: Jason Garrett needs full control; ‘his thumb print is not on this organization’

[jobberone]

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[NJ22]

Ok. Then I will just say playing safety does not make you an expert on how to run a franchise. So saying a "former player that knows what he is talking about" is weak sauce. Lol

 

[reddyuta]

i was told that we are set at safeties ,we didnt even bring in the top 2 safeties for interviews this year.

 

[jobberone]

Ok. Then I will just say playing safety does not make you an expert on how to run a franchise. So saying a "former player that knows what he is talking about" is weak sauce. Lol

And that is not only acceptable but funny.

 

[junk]

More fodder for the I Hate This Team crowd.

Well, I can't say I disagree with Woodson.

I'm not sure being frustrated with the team's performance and direction means one hates the team. Why would anyone who "hates" the team waste their time on forums endlessly discussing the minutia of the team?

Rubber stamping whatever the team does doesn't mean you are a good fan. It just means you probably aren't a very smart one.

1 playoff win in 17 years isn't really something to be happy about.

 

[JustAGuy]

Garrett is the HC of the team
He either has had control and is an incompetent bumbler or has had little to no control and is a spineless yes man
Take your pick

It has to be one or the other.

 

[peplaw06]

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Don't talk about fight club?

 

[peplaw06]

Ok. Then I will just say playing safety does not make you an expert on how to run a franchise. So saying a "former player that knows what he is talking about" is weak sauce. Lol

And it doesn't take an expert in how to run a franchise to see what's going on in Dallas isn't working. Guess if you disagree with him, that's your right... but if you just want to discount him because he's just a former player and hasn't even run a team, that's just laziness.

 

[Idgit]

It has to be one or the other.

No it doesn't. That's a false dichotomy right there. For example, Garrett might have a reasonable degree of control, argue with Jerry significantly, and also toe the party line in public.

Or, he can have had control, not be an incompetent bumbler at all, and we're still not successful enough for other reasons.

It's hard to say what's really going on. Easy to complain about it without really knowing. That's why comments like Woody's are intriguing, because, if you believe his opinion might be an informed one, it gives us some insight into what actually goes on behind the scenes.

 

[Coy]

I don't agree that Garrett's been a huge part of the problem. He's had some game management issues, but he has put his thumbprint on the team. They're more disciplined, which manifests itself in less penalties and have a never give up attitude. His problem is that he has to deal with Jerry meddling in everything which hinders his influence.

The first part should be the understatement of the year.
As for the second part of you point, I do think that is important but really, what good has that brought to the team, three 8-8 seasons and not geting to the playoffs. I'd rather them being a bit less disciplned and a better football team with accountability and leadership.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Wait what round did they find Darren Woodson again???

 

[TheDallasDon]

Romo has full control, and that isn't good. Only the cowboys would trust scatter brain tony romo with so much power. He's not responsible enough to have that type power. It's the reason I'm thinking about rooting against the cowboys all season.

Bye, hope I never see you again.

 

[skinsscalper]

I kind of view it a little more nuanced... I think we can see the fingerprints of Garrett with this team. The things I think of when I hear Jason Garrett as a head coach are clock/late game management issues, general lack of commitment to running the ball, and (on the positive side) the team seems to have changed as far as bringing in players who aren't circus acts. I think those things and others can be attributed to Garrett.

But maybe the absence of his "thumbprint" like Woodson is talking about is that he doesn't have his thumb on the team... more as a reference to a lack of control due to Jerry's level of involvement.

I agree with every word of this. The problem, for Garrett, is that Jerry is looming over everything and never misses an opportunity to get himself in front of a microphone and "tell it how it is". My problem with Jones, as far as Garrett is concerned, is that he undermines his coach publicly at every turn. Keep that **** behind closed doors, if for nothing else, to at least get your players in the mindset that everything is under a unified front with Garrett at the helm of football operations. Perception then, at least, has the opportunity to become reality.

Garrett isn't perfect by a long shot (his game management is his biggest enemy) but I think the guy is highly intelligent and has a pretty good idea of how to lead and build a team. Having to hopscotch around every freaking word that Jerry utters doesn't make his job any easier and only serves to distract from what he actually needs to be doing. I think Garrett on any other team would be a much more effective head coach due to that factor alone.

Honestly, I think the best GM for the Cowboys is (indeed) Jason Garrett. Not Head Coach/GM. Straight up GM. I do think Garrett has had a lot of input on "taking out the trash" on this roster since he took the position and I actually like the way that the roster has been assembled since Garrett took the helm. We've jettisoned a ton of malcontents and aging players who were well past the performance level that their contracts were commanding (Ware included. Sorry Demarcus but you just weren't worth it anymore). I think that if Garrett were given the helm at that position that we would be well on our way to a very young and talented roster within the next two years. This is just my opinion of course (which in the grand scheme isn't worth a cup of coffee) but I really do think Garrett has a place in the NFL and could be very successful. I just happen to think he'd be most effective in the command center rather that the battlefield.

 

[skinsscalper]

Romo has full control, and that isn't good. Only the cowboys would trust scatter brain tony romo with so much power. He's not responsible enough to have that type power. It's the reason I'm thinking about rooting against the cowboys all season.

Then get on with it and get the hell out! It's not like actually contribute anything that's worth a **** here to begin with.

 

[Rockport]

The first part should be the understatement of the year.
As for the second part of you point, I do think that is important but really, what good has that brought to the team, three 8-8 seasons and not geting to the playoffs. I'd rather them being a bit less disciplned and a better football team with accountability and leadership.

Jones has much more to do with the .500 record for more than a decade than Garrett.

 

[Sportsbabe]

I agree with Darren about the safeties, but unfortunately, I see Garrett's thumb print all over this team, and it a huge part of the problem.

I don't see it "all over this team". Somebody needs to break it down to me. From my vantage point he's only begun to put his thumb print on this team. I believe after this year, you can say this is his thumb print: 2 years of cleaning house; 1 year of bringing in his coaching staff; 1 year of "his draft". The 2014 season is his in my opinion.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Romo has full control, and that isn't good. Only the cowboys would trust scatter brain tony romo with so much power. He's not responsible enough to have that type power. It's the reason I'm thinking about rooting against the cowboys all season.

Dude, that is not cool.

Even those of us that think Garrett is a total idiot do not root against the team.

 

[Beast_from_East]

This is awesome! The guy has not mastered basic game management 101 skills to a pop warner level yet but the problem is he doesn't have ENOUGH control. Unreal. Lol

He is still "in training" per Jerry........................patience grasshopper.

 

[Coy]

Jones has much more to do with the .500 record for more than a decade than Garrett.

Ok, so he also has something to do about the playoff years in 2006' '07 and '09, you can't have it both ways. Anyway, we are talking about Garrett not JJ.
But I agree with you, JJ is way more responsible for this mess, he hired Garrett in the first place.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Somebody didn't get the memo.........