News: DMN: Report: Adrian Peterson not seeking trade to Cowboys

Dave_in-NC

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That would mean not 'going' anywhere as his contract with the Vikings pays him double what anyone else would.

I didn't say that. I said where the biggest check is written. Some people think the only teams trying to get him are the Vikings and Dallas.
Who's to say there won't be more? I forgot he's going to give the Cowboys a home team discount.:lmao2:
 

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I didn't say that. I said where the biggest check is written. Some people think the only teams trying to get him are the Vikings and Dallas.
Who's to say there won't be more? I forgot he's going to give the Cowboys a home team discount.:lmao2:

I agree, people have made way too much out of the conversation with Jones. It will come down to money and what AP may think is a discount price very well could be around what Lynch is getting since it would likely would be only a 2 to 3 year deal.
 

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From what I have read, as a condition of his suspension, he is restricted from having contact with the Vikings organization. And if that is the case, how could he publicly and directly tell the Vikings he wanted to be traded?

It's easier for me to say what I don't believe.

I don't believe Peterson wants to remain in Minnesota any longer. An inconsequential team taking another shot at another young quarterback hoping that this time it will actually work.

I also don't believe that the Vikings have any intention of honoring Peterson's current contract, despite whatever damage control B.S. they're sewing about 'wanting him back'.

What I do believe is that ideally Peterson wants to be the starting running back for the Dallas Cowboys.

Whether all of the other factors like Murray's future, Peterson's current status, and his eventual asking price line up is another question.


^^this
 

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I agree. My conspiracy side says that it's a lot of posturing on all sides to see who's going to flinch first. I think Jerry and AP want this to happen. Jerry is known to put his foot in his mouth and is probably under gag order by Stephan since due to the sensitive nature of all other parties (players, fans, Murray love, court decisions, NFL decisions, contract/$$), no one can come out and say anything.
I think they both parties have their messengers and leaks (on purpose) will be coming out in the press to see who is going to go public first.
 

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I didn't say that. I said where the biggest check is written. Some people think the only teams trying to get him are the Vikings and Dallas.
Who's to say there won't be more? I forgot he's going to give the Cowboys a home team discount.:lmao2:

Keep laughing. Everyone else is laughing at you anyway, you may as well join in on the fun.

If and when Peterson gets released, he gets to decide where he goes. 'Home' as in Texas, or elsewhere. To the highest profile team in the league, or elsewhere. To a 12-4 team, or elsewhere. To one of the league's most potent offenses, or elsewhere.

Your hatred of the possibility blinds you to anything and everything else. And that's your problem, not anyone else's.
 

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Why do you keep subjecting yourself to this "torment"?

Just don't click on topic threads containing the words 'Adrian' and 'Peterson' and your problem is solved.

:thumbup:

You cant look at the page w/o ap threads you cant look at a rb thread without awipes just saying AP PLEASE!!! So yes, the idiocy bleeds outside named threads n fine. if as a group theres nothing better to talk about ill just go until there is.

But jeezus christie people cant let some things go.
 

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Keep laughing. Everyone else is laughing at you anyway, you may as well join in on the fun.

If and when Peterson gets released, he gets to decide where he goes. 'Home' as in Texas, or elsewhere. To the highest profile team in the league, or elsewhere. To a 12-4 team, or elsewhere. To one of the league's most potent offenses, or elsewhere.

Your hatred of the possibility blinds you to anything and everything else. And that's your problem, not anyone else's.

ouchy!

I can see both sides of this debate and agree with both.
This is so great! I never thought the board would be this lively right after the season ends except for draft talk!

Boy oh boy- some butt-cheeks are red up in here!
Good, good stuff going on.
 

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You cant look at the page w/o ap threads you cant look at a rb thread without awipes just saying AP PLEASE!!! So yes, the idiocy bleeds outside named threads n fine. if as a group theres nothing better to talk about ill just go until there is.

But jeezus christie people cant let some things go.

Yourself among them. If something was bothering me as much as you claim, I would be staying away from it, not seeking it out.
 

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Keep laughing. Everyone else is laughing at you anyway, you may as well join in on the fun.

If and when Peterson gets released, he gets to decide where he goes. 'Home' as in Texas, or elsewhere. To the highest profile team in the league, or elsewhere. To a 12-4 team, or elsewhere. To one of the league's most potent offenses, or elsewhere.

Your hatred of the possibility blinds you to anything and everything else. And that's your problem, not anyone else's.

He will be "Home " to Texas in two yeas when his career is over. You don't think a bigger check offered some where else will play a role in where he goes? Again, you are acting like Dallas is the only team that might try for his services and you think if it's a few mill lower than say Indy he'd take it. And you think that because he will offer a home team discount. That is funny.
Then you say we have the leagues most potent offense and want to get rid of one of the players that made it that way.
Hoping that a 30/31year old will make up the difference. All you hear around here is don't pay for past performances, but that is exactly what you want to do. You must really think he's the missing piece to the SB. I don't. I think if you leave the key pieces on offense in place and get a defense that can stop a team from hanging 35 on us we can then be a SB contender.
Then saying well he's made enough money and just wants to play for Dallas because we are so high profile is funny to.
He is like every other player, he wants to get paid.
I don't really care who's laughing at me. When he isn't a Cowboy I will have the last laugh.:D
 

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ouchy!

I can see both sides of this debate and agree with both.
This is so great! I never thought the board would be this lively right after the season ends except for draft talk!

Boy oh boy- some butt-cheeks are red up in here!
Good, good stuff going on.

I can see both sides of it too, but no matter how many times you tell that to some people, it's got to be strictly an 'either/or' set of absolutes for them.

You either want Murray back at any cost or you hate him, no in-betweens.

You either want Murray or you want Peterson, can't be happy with either option, no no!

And I don't have a problem with someone not wanting Peterson in Dallas, I really don't. But I take issue with ridiculous and baseless statements being made, containing no truth, in a desperate attempt to substantiate that position. If you're against the move, just say that and be done with it. Don't try to twist reality to support it.
 

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ouchy!

I can see both sides of this debate and agree with both.
This is so great! I never thought the board would be this lively right after the season ends except for draft talk!

Boy oh boy- some butt-cheeks are red up in here!
Good, good stuff going on.

None of us know what's going to happen. It's all in fun on my part. Some just take their opinions all to seriously some times.
Like they can will some thing to happen even though no one is seeing it beyond this forum.
 

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I can see both sides of it too, but no matter how many times you tell that to some people, it's got to be strictly an 'either/or' set of absolutes for them.

You either want Murray back at any cost or you hate him, no in-betweens.

You either want Murray or you want Peterson, can't be happy with either option, no no!

And I don't have a problem with someone not wanting Peterson in Dallas, I really don't. But I take issue with ridiculous and baseless statements being made, containing no truth, in a desperate attempt to substantiate that position. If you're against the move, just say that and be done with it. Don't try to twist reality to support it.

LOL what have I said that's untrue? Do we know for a fact that Jerry is going to sign AP IF the Vikings don't keep him?
Do we know for a fact that the Vikings will cut him?
Do we know for a fact that no other teams might offer him a better deal than the Cowboys if the Vikes cut him?
Do we know for a fact that he is willing to forego a bigger check to give Dallas a home town discount?
We could do this till he signs some where. You know as much as any of us knows and NONE of it is fact at this point.
 

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He will be "Home " to Texas in two yeas when his career is over. You don't think a bigger check offered some where else will play a role in where he goes? Again, you are acting like Dallas is the only team that might try for his services and you think if it's a few mill lower than say Indy he'd take it. And you think that because he will offer a home team discount. That is funny.

Clear it up for me. What is this 'bigger check' you refer to? How much bigger is this check? Or is it yet another grey area of nonsense to hide in when you don't have a leg to stand on?

The fact is that the Cowboys have a multitude of advantages outside of dollars that other teams can't match. The highest profile in the league, arguably the league's best offensive line, one of the league's best QB's and offenses, coming off of a 12-4 record and playoff victory among others. And the biggest advantage they have is location, which only one other team can compete with.

But in your desperation to tell yourself it won't happen, you attempt to dismiss all of these other factors, because it contradicts with your agenda.

Then you say we have the leagues most potent offense and want to get rid of one of the players that made it that way.Hoping that a 30/31year old will make up the difference. All you hear around here is don't pay for past performances, but that is exactly what you want to do. You must really think he's the missing piece to the SB. I don't. I think if you leave the key pieces on offense in place and get a defense that can stop a team from hanging 35 on us we can then be a SB contender.

By obtaining a league-wide consensus upgrade at the running back position.

Would they not be 'paying for past performance' by re-signing Murray to a big contract based on last season's performance? Or does the hypocrisy not extend there?

And to be clear, he's not the one missing piece, but neither is retaining Murray. Unless the get a big-time free agent DE, I think any improvements will be incremental rather than quick.

Then saying well he's made enough money and just wants to play for Dallas because we are so high profile is funny to.
He is like every other player, he wants to get paid.
I don't really care who's laughing at me. When he isn't a Cowboy I will have the last laugh.:D

And what will you do if it does happen? Quit being a fan? No need for anything drastic either way.

And I've never said 'he's made enough money', you must be confusing me with someone else. My point is that there are several other factors other than money which would favor the Cowboys, but your hatred of the possibility is making you try to blind yourself to that fact.
 

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LOL what have I said that's untrue?

Off the top of my head, this one sticks out - "He'll go where he gets the biggest check'. If that were true, he'd be standing on a street corner with a Vikings sign because nobody in the league will come close to that salary.

Do we know for a fact that Jerry is going to sign AP IF the Vikings don't keep him? Do we know for a fact that the Vikings will cut him?
Do we know for a fact that no other teams might offer him a better deal than the Cowboys if the Vikes cut him?

No, that's why we're having a discussion about possibilities.

Do we know for a fact that he is willing to forego a bigger check to give Dallas a home town discount?

I know for a fact that Dallas offers multiple attractive factors other than money. And so do you. And we both know that he has previously expressed a desire to eventually play for this team. Google it if you're still unsure.

We could do this till he signs some where. You know as much as any of us knows and NONE of it is fact at this point.

And why can't we? Some of us are actually excited about the possibility and enjoy talking about this topic, especially during the offseason where there isn't a lot of compelling news to talk about.

Isn't that ability and freedom what this forum is all about?
 

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Clear it up for me. What is this 'bigger check' you refer to? How much bigger is this check? Or is it yet another grey area of nonsense to hide in when you don't have a leg to stand on?

The fact is that the Cowboys have a multitude of advantages outside of dollars that other teams can't match. The highest profile in the league, arguably the league's best offensive line, one of the league's best QB's and offenses, coming off of a 12-4 record and playoff victory among others. And the biggest advantage they have is location, which only one other team can compete with.

But in your desperation to tell yourself it won't happen, you attempt to dismiss all of these other factors, because it contradicts with your agenda.



By obtaining a league-wide consensus upgrade at the running back position.

Would they not be 'paying for past performance' by re-signing Murray to a big contract based on last season's performance? Or does the hypocrisy not extend there?

And to be clear, he's not the one missing piece, but neither is retaining Murray. Unless the get a big-time free agent DE, I think any improvements will be incremental rather than quick.



And what will you do if it does happen? Quit being a fan? No need for anything drastic either way.

And I've never said 'he's made enough money', you must be confusing me with someone else. My point is that there are several other factors other than money which would favor the Cowboys, but your hatred of the possibility is making you try to blind yourself to that fact.

I have no hatred for AP, None. But your insistence that he is willing to play cheaper because he will be home and all those factors will take second to money. These guys play for MONEY. It's what they do.
It's not about Murray it's about longevity. The Cowboys have built and are building a team with staying power. AP for a year or two does nothing for that. But Murray or YOUNGER does.
This will all get played out sooner or later and some one will be right and some one wrong. It doesn't really matter to me, I'm just a guy on his laptop killing time.
I didn't stop being a fan when they signed Owens and yes, I hated that signing. Some fans thought SB for sure because he would get us there, How'd that turn out?
 

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Off the top of my head, this one sticks out - "He'll go where he gets the biggest check'. If that were true, he'd be standing on a street corner with a Vikings sign because nobody in the league will come close to that salary.



No, that's why we're having a discussion about possibilities.



I know for a fact that Dallas offers multiple attractive factors other than money. And so do you. And we both know that he has previously expressed a desire to eventually play for this team. Google it if you're still unsure.



And why can't we? Some of us are actually excited about the possibility and enjoy talking about this topic, especially during the offseason where there isn't a lot of compelling news to talk about.

Isn't that ability and freedom what this forum is all about?

We can talk about it. I like to make the forum laugh.
 

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I have no hatred for AP, None. But your insistence that he is willing to play cheaper because he will be home and all those factors will take second to money. These guys play for MONEY. It's what they do.
It's not about Murray it's about longevity. The Cowboys have built and are building a team with staying power. AP for a year or two does nothing for that. But Murray or YOUNGER does.
This will all get played out sooner or later and some one will be right and some one wrong. It doesn't really matter to me, I'm just a guy on his laptop killing time.
I didn't stop being a fan when they signed Owens and yes, I hated that signing. Some fans thought SB for sure because he would get us there, How'd that turn out?

The truth of the matter is that our "staying power" will take a huge hit once Romo hangs em up. You'd be kidding yourself if you don't honestly believe that our real best shot at winning a Superbowl is in the next 2-3 years. Who knows how long we will take to find a good QB post-Romo.
 
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