News: DMN: Report: Adrian Peterson not seeking trade to Cowboys

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The truth of the matter is that our "staying power" will take a huge hit once Romo hangs em up. You'd be kidding yourself if you don't honestly believe that our real best shot at winning a Superbowl is in the next 2-3 years. Who knows how long we will take to find a good QB post-Romo.

And you want to put that 2-3 year hopes on a 30/31 year old RB?
 

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I have no hatred for AP, None. But your insistence that he is willing to play cheaper because he will be home and all those factors will take second to money. These guys play for MONEY. It's what they do.

It's a huge factor, no doubt. But if you're trying to say it's the only factor, you're flat-out wrong.

It's not about Murray it's about longevity. The Cowboys have built and are building a team with staying power. AP for a year or two does nothing for that. But Murray or YOUNGER does.

Romo doesn't mean 'longevity' either, but can we assume you don't want to get rid of him? And let's not forget that this past season - a contract season - was Murray's first where he didn't miss considerable time. Does that speak well for stability, availability, or longevity?

This will all get played out sooner or later and some one will be right and some one wrong. It doesn't really matter to me, I'm just a guy on his laptop killing time.
I didn't stop being a fan when they signed Owens and yes, I hated that signing. Some fans thought SB for sure because he would get us there, How'd that turn out?

He did help us get to 13-3 and a #1 NFC seed. Despite his obvious issues, the guy did his part and then some on the field. Those Cowboys had issues other than his receiver spot.
 

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The truth of the matter is that our "staying power" will take a huge hit once Romo hangs em up. You'd be kidding yourself if you don't honestly believe that our real best shot at winning a Superbowl is in the next 2-3 years. Who knows how long we will take to find a good QB post-Romo.

Exactly my thinking too. And that's why I would load up if I had the chance.

In 2-3 years you're effectively rebuilding anyway - through the draft at a cheaper cost. You may as well do what you can now while the window of opportunity is clearly open.
 

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They all say they don't care about money. How many really mean it when the check is offered. Dez has even said "it's about winning" How's that going?

You can't compare Dez to AP to the way they feel about money. Dez is young and hasn't had a big contract yet, while AP is established and has played many years. For AP at this stage in his life and for everything that has happened to him money isn't an issue anymore.
 

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It's a huge factor, no doubt. But if you're trying to say it's the only factor, you're flat-out wrong.



Romo doesn't mean 'longevity' either, but can we assume you don't want to get rid of him? And let's not forget that this past season - a contract season - was Murray's first where he didn't miss considerable time. Does that speak well for stability, availability, or longevity?



He did help us get to 13-3 and a #1 NFC seed. Despite his obvious issues, the guy did his part and then some on the field. Those Cowboys had issues other than his receiver spot.
You can't compare Dez to AP to the way they feel about money. Dez is young and hasn't had a big contract yet, while AP is established and has played many years. For AP at this stage in his life and for everything that has happened to him money isn't an issue anymore.

Unless your him how do you know that? I really don't know maybe you could help me out. How many players over the years have given a home team discount? seriously.
 

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Exactly my thinking too. And that's why I would load up if I had the chance.

In 2-3 years you're effectively rebuilding anyway - through the draft at a cheaper cost. You may as well do what you can now while the window of opportunity is clearly open.

ding ding ding ding ding! And if it doesn't work out, it just didn't work out. It wouldn't necessarily mean it wasn't the right/best course of action at the time. And that's where I feel some people get lost on,tunnel vision looking at the end result instead of assessing what made the most sense at the time
 

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Unless your him how do you know that? I really don't know maybe you could help me out. How many players over the years have given a home team discount? seriously.

Google the phrase 'turned down more money elsewhere' and you'll be surprised to see how often it happens.
 

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ding ding ding ding ding! And if it doesn't work out, it just didn't work out. It wouldn't necessarily mean it wasn't the right/best course of action at the time. And that's where I feel some people get lost on,tunnel vision looking at the end result instead of assessing what made the most sense at the time

To me if you make this kind of move, your going all in. Jerry isn't going to sell more seats, they are always sold.
If it fails it's going to suck. Now your looking for a QB and a RB.
 

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ding ding ding ding ding! And if it doesn't work out, it just didn't work out. It wouldn't necessarily mean it wasn't the right/best course of action at the time. And that's where I feel some people get lost on,tunnel vision looking at the end result instead of assessing what made the most sense at the time

Completely agree. And if you spend all of your time on the slow and steady approach, you'll ultimately be fixing one leak just in time for another one to pop up. By the time that #27 rookie DE comes into his own as a pass rusher (if all goes well), Romo is likely one foot out the door, along with your Hall of Fame TE in Witten.

Kick the door in!
 

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Reasons why it makes sense Peterson would take less money to play for Dallas:

1) It's Texas, where he was born and raised near Dallas.
2) Dallas went 12-4 last year, with a young dominant o-line that is probably only going to get better. What a luxury it would be for Peterson to have a dominant line pave the way for him.
3) In Dallas, he would have a great QB & great WR, AND a great TE, so he wouldn't have to shoulder all the load.
4) He already got his huge payday, he knows his window is closing to get the ring he so much desires & Dallas was the 3rd youngest team in the League last year and was "Dez catch" from possibly being in the Superbowl.
5) He has a good relationship with Jerruh. (ok the last one is a bit of reach, but it isn't much of a reach overall if you think about why he would want to play for us)
 

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To me if you make this kind of move, your going all in. Jerry isn't going to sell more seats, they are always sold.
If it fails it's going to suck. Now your looking for a QB and a RB.

The thing is we would have to end up doing that anyway as Murray would be 30 by the time Romo is gone....
 

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Google the phrase 'turned down more money elsewhere' and you'll be surprised to see how often it happens.

McFadden was the only player who came up no matter how I phrased it. I'm sure there's more but even then it doesn't mean AP will.
 

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I think if Vikings released him he will take a small deal to come to us to help the team. People forget he got paid in full last year. 15 million he got.
 

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The thing is we would have to end up doing that anyway as Murray would be 30 by the time Romo is gone....

That's true but I would rather take the window we do have and compete with a younger player at RB. AP was great, like many players he could suddenly hit the wall. Less chance of that going younger IMOP.
 

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That's true but I would rather take the window we do have and compete with a younger player at RB. AP was great, like many players he could suddenly hit the wall. Less chance of that going younger IMOP.

Well in that case id rather just draft a RB. Murray is not going to be cheap.. And I'm sure you are aware of the wall that exists. After running backs get fed the rock as much as Murray did in a season. Not to mention he is injury prone
 

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Well in that case id rather just draft a RB. Murray is not going to be cheap.. And I'm sure you are aware of the wall that exists. After running backs get fed the rock as much as Murray did in a season. Not to mention he is injury prone

If they don't retain Murray by all means go younger. I never said any different. Going older in hopes that player will be the same player is nuts to me.
 

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If they don't retain Murray by all means go younger. I never said any different. Going older in hopes that player will be the same player is nuts to me.

Fair enough, I'm just saying I would love to see the chance of Peterson running wild behind this O line. That would be a sight to see. In my opinion, a lot of the long Murray runs would end up in Peterson breaking them to the house
 
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