DMN: Safety Roy Williams wants Dallas Cowboys to act today

[AKATheRake]

Roy made this ugly by demanding action by today. Remember that fans. He didn't have to take this approach and there is only 1 blatant stupid reason he did. If Jerry grants him his release today than Jerry really has a soft spot for the guy and isn't thinking for the betterment of this team. Roy should ask what Jerry wants to do or assume his contract is good otherwise. Not this BS going to the media. There is no excuse for this, don't be blinded by the past. RW38 is attempting to push Jerry's hand and the team is not priority number 1 right now. RW38 is priority #1 right now.

Brian Dawkins never asked Philly to make a decision right away and he played out his contract and earned ever penny of it. In fact, Dawkins wanted to stay but Denver payed him more for the first year of the 2 year deal than the franchise tag would pay him. Philly couldn't compete with that and the Broncos knew it. You think Roy doesn't see that either? That isn't driving this whole thing? Don't be naive, this isn't that kid we drafted 8th overall anymore. He's a grown man who sees 1 more opportunity for an unjustified pay day. He's not worth his current contract but with the gurantees in his pocket and what this crazy FA market is doing he thinks he can get a raise.

Jerry believed in him these last 3 years and never asked to re-structure. Listen, Roy's entitled to try and earn as much money as possible in his career, but don't play this guilt, respect and dignity card with the other fans when there is a blatant business card that really is being played by the player. He was so open to restructuring through the media, now this huh?

 

[superonyx]

He's the one telling us to make a move today. That guy you say is begging to be a Cowboy is begging to have a decision made on him today without offering a re-structured package to the team you say he is in love with.

The pro bowls and everything were very nice and I'd like to keep him but he hasn't live up to his contract for 3 years now. He constantly points the finger elsewhere and does not want to take responsibility and improve his weakness'. I listen to Ratliff today say how he'll do whatever the team wants him to and this is after he watched a lesser player (Canty) go out and sign for more than he is making.

Roy wants to take the rest of his guaranteed money and test FA because there are no big name SS out there and the money is ridiculous. He was talking about restructuring before all of this FA hoopla and now he's demanding action now? He has no leverage. You want action Roy? O.K, you're allowed to go seek a trade for a 2nd rounder.

I know we won't get it but there's your action. You want to kill your trade value, I'll kill your earning power you ungrateful prick. You want to make this all business and not personal fine, this is how NFL business is conducted. You're under contract and we own your right's to make a living in this league for the next 2 years. Work with us and we work with you. Work against us and you'll get the Terry Glenn reality.

What is so wrong with Roy wanting to either be assured he is still a part of the cowboys plans or released? It has been widely reported for a few weeks now that he will be released. Will he? I dont know.
You are concerned about trade value i see. I understand that. However, lets be realistic about trade value. When the rest of the league knows you are planning to release a guy he then has no trade value.
Look around the league at what players are getting in terms of trade value.
Free agency killed trades. Teams value a 2nd round draft hopeful more than a proven probowl caliber player.
Point is that he hasnt had any trade value in a few years. The broncos couldnt even get a 1st rounder out of Cutler.

Roy Williams is not asking for his release. What he is asking for is respect. He has earned it. If the cowboys do not want him and the trade market is crap (as we know it is). Then release him. Wish him the best and move on.
Dont drag it out. Dont show the rest of the players that you will someday do this to them as well. Its not good for the team to do that.

We gain nothing by holding on to him if we plan to release him in august. We lose respect from current and future players if we drag it out and he is forced to play for the vet minimum in Buffalo next year.

 

[jimmy40]

What kind of fans and people are some of you?

This is a guy that came out of college and practically begged the cowboys to draft him he wanted to be a cowboy so badly.
This guy has been voted to so many probowls. That means he was recognized by his peers, coaches and fans as the best in the league at what he does.

Roy Williams may no longer fit the mold of what we want as a safety. His skills may have declined. He may be better suited for a 4-3 defense. He may be better closer to the line of scrimmage.

But for what he has done and how he comes out and keeps saying that he wants to play for the cowboys means he deserves a little more respect than for you people to tell him to sit down and shut up.

You guys are worse than the eagles fans.

Brian Dawkins just left after 13 years for money. And at least they can wish him the best and say they enjoyed having him as the heart of their team.

Just because you dont want a player to be a part of the Cowboys any longer does not make it alright to show no class.

Where are all the stat guys saying RW is one of the top safeties in the league? What happened to that? He was out last year due to injury. What else changed?

 

[AKATheRake]

What is so wrong with Roy wanting to either be assured he is still a part of the cowboys plans or released? It has been widely reported for a few weeks now that he will be released. Will he? I dont know.
You are concerned about trade value i see. I understand that. However, lets be realistic about trade value. When the rest of the league knows you are planning to release a guy he then has no trade value.
Look around the league at what players are getting in terms of trade value.
Free agency killed trades. Teams value a 2nd round draft hopeful more than a proven probowl caliber player.
Point is that he hasnt had any trade value in a few years. The broncos couldnt even get a 1st rounder out of Cutler.

Roy Williams is not asking for his release. What he is asking for is respect. He has earned it. If the cowboys do not want him and the trade market is crap (as we know it is). Then release him. Wish him the best and move on.
Dont drag it out. Dont show the rest of the players that you will someday do this to them as well. Its not good for the team to do that.

We gain nothing by holding on to him if we plan to release him in august. We lose respect from current and future players if we drag it out and he is forced to play for the vet minimum in Buffalo next year.

The respect and credibility with future players and agents I understand. The reports are out there that he'll be released but that is him going out there and pulling a Greg Ellis but more so doing interviews with the media. Not 1 Cowboy official has said a thing about releasing or restructuring. That's the general consensus assumption because he hasn't been living up to his current contract.

Has Roy talked to Jerry? No obviously. Does Roy have a contract? Yes obviously. Has Jerry come out through the media or has told Roy's agent that he will be released? Haven't seen or heard anything indicating so. The guy has 2 years left on his contract and he's telling the Cowboys to act today on him. LOL! So who is prevoking this whole thing. Respect? Respect is in having 2 more years on your contract. Respect is restructuring or at least attempting too when you come out weeks ahead of FA and say you're willing to restructure through the media yet Jerry hasn't come out and talked to you about your contract.

Here's the options I see usefulto the Cowboys and possibly Roy and they are all fair.

- Roy keeps his gurantees and has a base of 30% more than the veteran minimum for the next 2 years. Restructures contract of course.

- Jerry sends him to Oakland for Michael Huff who both end up with restructured contracts. Very difficult, only the base amounts would be negotiable and rightfully so for the players.

- Here's a very speculative solution on my part. Send our 2nd and RW38 over to Cleveland for Shaun Rogers and a 4th, take the 6th if tht's all you can get.

- Get a 7th for good ole Roy if he doesn't want to restructure.

Remember, Ellis has been very insecure the past few seasons and he's still with the team. Jerry just ignored his antics and it worked out. Don't be so sure Roy is being disrespected. He's been treated very well by Jerry, extremely well. Roy wants to get into FA as soon as possible because he sees the money that even he could probably get after seeing Dawkins. Even on a 2-3 year deal. Plus Jerry has to pay him the guarantees so if he's financially motivated why restructure with Jerry?

He's changed his mind about restructuring obviously so why should Jerry change his mind on what he can get for a guy he used an 8th overall pick on? This respect thing you're on about is a little overboard. I guess Cincy disrespected Chad Ocho Stinko last year when he demanded action and how about Philly and Lito Sheppard? They disrespect him too? Anquan Boldin get disrespected also? Funny thing is, those guys actually outplayed their current contracts. Roy the opposite. Lets relax on the respect thing. Alot ofit has been given to Roy. People know that he's trying to leverage and that's why they're giving him the cold shoulder. I hope he stays on a fair restructured deal and we get another young option in the draft. But that's just me. It's really up to Roy to do what's fair. Jerry's let him do his thing for 3 years on his tab. Even got Campo in here who had him going good the beginning of his career. Enough is enough.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Today...I wanted him gone yesterday.

 

[Big Dakota]

Sit down roy ya punk.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Boo-Hoo

 

[Alexander]

Jerry take your time. You've payed the man for his time and more. Take your time if it is best for the team. Roy should be trying to re-structure as opposed to asking Jerry to make a move. Roy, why don't you and your agent make a move and offer Jerry a smaller contract you complacent individual?

I would not give in to his demands. He's under contract so there is no reason to accomodate him. But knowing how Jones doesn't like to bruise the egos of his superstars, he'll probably be moved or cut before the day is out simply because he asked.

 

[Big Dakota]

I would not give in to his demands. He's under contract so there is no reason to accomodate him. But knowing how Jones doesn't like to bruise the egos of his superstars, he'll probably be moved or cut before the day is out simply because he asked.

Bet he won't.

 

[AKATheRake]

I would not give in to his demands. He's under contract so there is no reason to accomodate him. But knowing how Jones doesn't like to bruise the egos of his superstars, he'll probably be moved or cut before the day is out simply because he asked.

You're right, the only reason Jerry or any owner at this point would just release him is because they have a soft spot for the player. Jerry is like that, unless you're Terry Glenn and you force his hand. Wouldn't be the best thing for the team however to give in. Wouldn't be wrong to keep him around till June 1st if he outright killed his own trade value either. We could use him as drafty taffy, even just to bump us up a few spots in a round.

Jerry can tell Roy he can seek trade partners if he wants as long as they are not in the division. These guys will restructure something or he'll be sent to Oakland for Huff. Just have a feeling about it.

 

[Doomsay]

What is so wrong with Roy wanting to either be assured he is still a part of the cowboys plans or released? It has been widely reported for a few weeks now that he will be released. Will he? I dont know.
You are concerned about trade value i see. I understand that. However, lets be realistic about trade value. When the rest of the league knows you are planning to release a guy he then has no trade value.
Look around the league at what players are getting in terms of trade value.
Free agency killed trades. Teams value a 2nd round draft hopeful more than a proven probowl caliber player.
Point is that he hasnt had any trade value in a few years. The broncos couldnt even get a 1st rounder out of Cutler.

Roy Williams is not asking for his release. What he is asking for is respect. He has earned it. If the cowboys do not want him and the trade market is crap (as we know it is). Then release him. Wish him the best and move on.
Dont drag it out. Dont show the rest of the players that you will someday do this to them as well. Its not good for the team to do that.

We gain nothing by holding on to him if we plan to release him in august. We lose respect from current and future players if we drag it out and he is forced to play for the vet minimum in Buffalo next year.

Don't think that the current players have a lot of respect for Roy, his over-blown contract, or his finger pointing.

 

[BigBoy63]

If Roy would restructure his contract then i think he can stay, and he can fill kevin burnetts role for linebacker in the nickel packages. I still think that if Roy readjusts his mine to be set on Football then he will at least give us one more good season before he has to get out.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

"If he does go, he will be missed."



No he won't.

Maybe not by you but I'll miss him. Of course I've admitted many times that I'm just a Roy Williams fan, despite any short comings he's had, and have been every since the first time I saw him play at OU.

What kind of fans and people are some of you?

This is a guy that came out of college and practically begged the cowboys to draft him he wanted to be a cowboy so badly.
This guy has been voted to so many probowls. That means he was recognized by his peers, coaches and fans as the best in the league at what he does.

Roy Williams may no longer fit the mold of what we want as a safety. His skills may have declined. He may be better suited for a 4-3 defense. He may be better closer to the line of scrimmage.

But for what he has done and how he comes out and keeps saying that he wants to play for the cowboys means he deserves a little more respect than for you people to tell him to sit down and shut up.

You guys are worse than the eagles fans.

Brian Dawkins just left after 13 years for money. And at least they can wish him the best and say they enjoyed having him as the heart of their team.

Just because you dont want a player to be a part of the Cowboys any longer does not make it alright to show no class.

While not everyone will agree with this, and I'm not sure that I agree with all of it, I have to say that I am pleased to see someone stand up and say something of this nature. You've explained your stance nicely. Good job.

 

[utrunner07]

Umm, how many Sundays did we want Roy to act, and he failed to do so. So go sit down, and we'll call you when something happens.

Exactly what I was thinking.

 

[Galian Beast]

this hurt the pool for trading him

either release him and end this or tell him to shut up

 

[justbob]

Its simple Roy --when we get good and ready we will do what we want to--
None of this woud have been necessary of you would get off your butt and hit someone. Stay by your phone -we will call, sooner or later --Jerry

 

[DallasEast]

[SIZE=-1]By TODD ARCHER / The Dallas Morning News [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]tarcher@***BANNED-URL*** / The Dallas Morning News[/SIZE]

Roy Williams wants to know what his future holds immediately, so his agent, Jordan Woy, has asked the Dallas Cowboys to either cut or trade the strong safety by today.

The Cowboys have made Williams available for trade but the market has been slow, largely because teams believe the club will eventually release him. Williams is scheduled to count $6.6 million against the 2009 salary cap.

If the Cowboys trade or cut Williams, they will save roughly $2 million against the cap. His 2008 season was cut short by a twice-fractured right forearm that limited him to three games. He finished with nine tackles.

Hmmm. I didn't know Woy's alias was Taber.

Woy and Roy Williams should both quiet down until the draft. If the team doesn't acquire any free agent or high draft round (strong) safeties by that time, that will be his answer. If he is really wanting to cut his ties with the team, Roy Williams should be attempting to influence the front office to package him in any draft day trades. That would both secure his departure from Dallas by the end of April before mini-camps start and send him to a team which actually wants him--as opposed to being cut and hoping for the best.

 

[tunahelper]

What kind of fans and people are some of you?

This is a guy that came out of college and practically begged the cowboys to draft him he wanted to be a cowboy so badly.
This guy has been voted to so many probowls. That means he was recognized by his peers, coaches and fans as the best in the league at what he does.

Roy Williams may no longer fit the mold of what we want as a safety. His skills may have declined. He may be better suited for a 4-3 defense. He may be better closer to the line of scrimmage.

But for what he has done and how he comes out and keeps saying that he wants to play for the cowboys means he deserves a little more respect than for you people to tell him to sit down and shut up.

You guys are worse than the eagles fans.

Brian Dawkins just left after 13 years for money. And at least they can wish him the best and say they enjoyed having him as the heart of their team.

Just because you dont want a player to be a part of the Cowboys any longer does not make it alright to show no class.

The kind of fan I am is about wanting a winning team, period. Roy has been paid well on two contracts and has not lived up to expectations. He has the nerve to complain? I am about the star first over any player's needs or wants.

Too bad Roy doesnt like waiting for JJ to fix a problem Roy created when he failed to play to his draft status and salary expectations. This difficult situation is CLEARLY his own fault! Dallas must try to recoup value or find a lesser role for a multimillion dollar role player.

so

My question to you is what kind of fan ignores the good of our team because of player "loyalty"?

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

I'd hold onto you until June 1st cuts if need be. Ellis too. So shut ur pie hole and make yourself worth something in a trade or else get cut by the time teams have their rosters pretty much finalized and all the big money is no more. Work with us because you don't want us to work against you.

Visions of the end of Terry Glenn's career come to mind. Glenn was acting like he was all that, posturing in front of Jerry Jones. In the end, Jones just took more time and Glenn got cut with NO opportunity before him. If he had just worked WITH Jones, maybe he could have contributed in 2008 coming off the bench - maybe even help the team make it to the playoffs - and from there, who knows? But instead of realizing his last real shot at winning somrthing meaningfull, he got a big head and now he's nowhere.

Roy Williams, pay attention, because you are no longer a starting calliber SS, worthy/talented enough to be making these kinds of demands. What you should first do is re-struvture your contract to a cap friendly form that pays you like the backup you are. That will make you more attractive in the market, give you leverage to select some teams you may want to go to, help the trade be pulled off with a friendlier contract, and if none of that works, then Dallas can justify keeping you at an attractive price as the role player you are.

Or, you can continue to be ignorant, forcing Dallas to ultimately cut you at the most inopportune time, forcing them to get NOTHINMG for you, and frcing you to get EVEN LESS, as you watch the 2009 NFL season from your livingroom sofa. Realize that like Terry Glenn you are a JAG now, but please don't be as stubbourne as Glenn was. That would be bad for Dallas and worse for you.

 

[AKATheRake]

Its simple Roy --when we get good and ready we will do what we want to--
None of this woud have been necessary of you would get off your butt and hit someone. Stay by your phone -we will call, sooner or later --Jerry

It's June 1st 12:01 AM Roy, you're released. Best of luck. Click...........