DMN: Warren Sapp thinks golf causes Tony Romo's late-season struggles

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Warren Sapp is just bitter because his peanut brain can't manage more than one thing at a time, like thinking and talking simultaneously.
 

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Doomsday101;2775854 said:
I agree with you, I think there are many perceptions made about players that are bogus. As I mentioned Manning could not win the big one? Anyone with an ounce of sense saw that Manning had the talent and would sooner or later knock that wall down and he did. I don't expect Tony to put his life on hold because some people have their own perception but I do know that until this team wins and wins big he will be dogged by the perception.


Romo is going to be dogged the rest of his career no matter what now.

He could win the next two superbowls, but he still fumbled that snap and he lost at home to the giants and he dates jessica simpson who is hated in her own right.

Look at aikman, people still question if he belongs in the hall. You play in Dallas and that is the way it goes, its just that in this hyper environment romo is attacked for things bloggers and half rear ended analysts have no business attacking him for and then they apply this to his football career.

its crazy. That is why when I hear aikman multilpy this craziness by validating some of this perception stuff to the media I just get so frustrated.

Aikman heading into that 92 season in this hyper media environment would have been buried, dead and buried. I cant even imagine if romo missed time in three straight seasons, after being the number 1 pick only to come into a playoff game after it was a blowout and throw 16 passes.

Aikman would have been crucified by the florio's and sanders/dukes/sapp's of the world for multiple reasons.

I just think it stinks.
 

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WoodysGirl;2775778 said:
Romo Keeps Sending The Wrong Message
Posted by Mike Florio on May 15, 2009, 10:28 a.m.

In putting together for SportingNews.com our list of six non-playoff teams in 2008 that could make it to the postseason in 2009, we carefully considered whether the Cowboys should be on the list.

Whether they made it will be unveiled as soon as the column as posted.

But getting to the playoffs and winning their first postseason game since the evening before my 12-year-old son was baptized are two different propositions. To actually have success in the playoffs, the Cowboys need to achieve a higher level of desire, passion, and commitment than they have displayed of late.

It starts, in our view, with the quarterback. And with the current quarterback spending a portion of the offseason trying to qualify for the U.S. Open, we think that the Cowboys still have a long way to go.

In our view, it’s one thing to play a round of golf for relaxation purposes. It’s quite another to dilute a guy’s total pool of competitive juices by finding something else about which to be competitive that isn’t football.

Besides, what would Tony Romo have done if he had managed to qualify for the U.S. Open? The tournament starts on June 18 — the same day that a full-squad minicamp ends.

As Hall of Famer Troy Aikman pointed out earlier this year, perception is reality when it comes to an NFL quarterback. The head coach can only do so much to lead a team; once the players are on the field, they need a guy who’s wearing the uniform to provide genuine leadership.

And that job falls to the quarterback.

So the issue isn’t whether the public believes that Romo might not be sufficiently committed to the cause — it’s whether his teammates do. In Dallas, the fact that Romo decided to spend part of his offseason trying to qualify for a golf tournament that apparently would have kept him from participating in all or part of a key preseason training session tells the other plays all they need to know:

Romo doesn’t have the same burning passion and desire to win that characterizes a true franchise quarterback.

Then again, we can understand why Romo likes golf — the chips shots are never preceded by a fumbled snap.

Honestly, he will get this until they win in the playoffs. No matter what he does, it will be costing him a win in Dec. and Jan. He will forever be criticized and scrutinized to death until they do win.

Not saying it's fair, but it is what it is.
 

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theebs;2775842 said:
Possibly, I have no idea.

Steve young filmed that episode of 90210 either early in the season or late in the preseason, so that was during football time.

again though, no one cared.

If they did, I doubt anyone here would know.

You had the right idea before, this is a different age. Everything he does will be seen and noted.

Being about as popular with TMZ as he is Sports Illustrated, Romo is the posterchild for celebrity QBs right now. But he's not really doing much to curtail the criticism. That really is all there is to it. There isn't much sense to getting upset that some imbecile like Warren Sapp is critical. Laugh it off for the nonsense it is.

The only time I would care is if it did interfere with OTAs. Say he did qualify and it did. I get the feeling you would still have people thinking that was alright.
 

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theebs;2775861 said:
Romo is going to be dogged the rest of his career no matter what now.

He could win the next two superbowls, but he still fumbled that snap and he lost at home to the giants and he dates jessica simpson who is hated in her own right.

Look at aikman, people still question if he belongs in the hall. You play in Dallas and that is the way it goes, its just that in this hyper environment romo is attacked for things bloggers and half rear ended analysts have no business attacking him for and then they apply this to his football career.

its crazy. That is why when I hear aikman multilpy this craziness by validating some of this perception stuff to the media I just get so frustrated.

Aikman heading into that 92 season in this hyper media environment would have been buried, dead and buried. I cant even imagine if romo missed time in three straight seasons, after being the number 1 pick only to come into a playoff game after it was a blowout and throw 16 passes.

Aikman would have been crucified by the florio's and sanders/dukes/sapp's of the world for multiple reasons.

I just think it stinks.

I don't think that will be the case and many of the same people throwing bombs today will be heaping praise tomorrow like they never made any negative comment before. This is one reason I don't get worked up with these commentaries I see on ESPN or the NFL Network, I think many say the 1st thing to come to their mind and that view will change later on. One of the worst is Terry Bradshaw; I have seen him dog a QB and a few months later singing the praises of him. Eli Manning comes to mind of a guy who people said he was no leader and weak mentally and many changed their views of Eli now. Heck Warner was washed up now he is back on top.
 

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theebs;2775849 said:
Fine doesnt mean as a fan with common sense I have to sit and say oh well, romo really doesnt care because he played golf.

Parcells used to play golf all the time in the offseason, he was seen on the course nearly daily.

Its just a peaceful way for these guys to get out of the fishbowl and relax and clear there mind.

unless your romo, then it is a guy further distracting himself trying to be a pro golfer but failing at that too because he sucks and is a choker who doesnt care...oh and his girlfriend is fat.

its just plain foolish.

I think we all agree that the argument is ridiculous. I don't have to defend Alexander because he can do that himself but I believe you misinterpreted his take on the matter.

In one of his posts to you he stated: "Keep in mind that the entire premise that golf causes him to lose focus is pure rubbish before you answer." He acknowledges that the premise is nonsense. However, his argument is that Romo knows there is a perception of him out there so why would he continue to feed it. Romo playing golf or doing anything he wants is not the issue. It is an issue that he would decide to attempt to qualify for something that may directly conflict with his day job. That helps reinforce the perception in many ways.

Alexander also stated: "The whole point is that he invites criticism. His actions and comments are his own worst enemy. It doesn't make the criticism right." I think his argument is clear but I think you may have muddied his view point a little, confusing his stance with that of Florio and Sapp. I didn't see it that way.

Note: If I misrepresented either of your arguments, I offer my apologies upfront.
 

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djmajestik;2775865 said:
Honestly, he will get this until they win in the playoffs. No matter what he does, it will be costing him a win in Dec. and Jan. He will forever be criticized and scrutinized to death until they do win.

Not saying it's fair, but it is what it is.


hey thats true, but their has to be some common sense involved. Making any corelation between him attempting to qualify for the open and the teams december collapses, which precede him by the way is simply beyond foolish.

and on that note, I think I will go mow my lawn and listen to the radio call of the 06 seattle playoff game.
 

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slick325;2775870 said:
I think we all agree that the argument is ridiculous. I don't have to defend Alexander because he can do that himself but I believe you misinterpreted his take on the matter.

In one of his posts to you he stated: "Keep in mind that the entire premise that golf causes him to lose focus is pure rubbish before you answer." He acknowledges that the premise is nonsense. However, his argument is that Romo knows there is a perception of him out there so why would he continue to feed it. Romo playing golf or doing anything he wants is not the issue. It is an issue that he would decide to attempt to qualify for something that may directly conflict with his day job. That helps reinforce the perception in many ways.

Alexander also stated: "The whole point is that he invites criticism. His actions and comments are his own worst enemy. It doesn't make the criticism right." I think his argument is clear but I think you may have muddied his view point a little confusing his stance with that of Florio and Sapp. I didn't see it that way.

Note: If I misrepresented either of your arguments, I offer my apologies upfront.

well that is true, but alexander knows I respect him as much or more than anyone that posts here which is why I respond to him. So I think he knows where I am coming from, I am basically not responding to him directly but him and everyone else, but mostly the ridiculous bloggers and time waisting media.

gotta go I am going to listen to the seattle game again, maybe this time they wont overturn wittens first down!!
 

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Alexander;2775815 said:
Florio didn't say that in that passage though. He made a poor joke at the end but that's far from implying he fumbled the snap because he played golf.

His message was that with QBs perception is everything. I don't think that can be argued.

Florio's only writing this for attention, so his take isn't relevant, but I'll take up your QBs-perception-is-everything argument just for fun.

I'll go with perception is irrelevant. Winning is everything. Look at Eli Manning. Radio stations were doing bits about him being ******** on a daily basis right up until he won the Superbowl. Romo's not going to give a thought to this nonsense, nor should he. It's not going to affect his perception with the team one iota, and the only thing that's going to matter at the end of the day is whether or not we're able to get over the hump.
 

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It's amazing how bad these shows producers and executives are. To pay these guys to come on and make idiotic statements like this. but yet do not have to state why they say it, or give any eveidence or proof...just make the statement, and other idiots will run with it and believe it.

And then keep them on the air.
 

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theebs;2775876 said:
well that is true, but alexander knows I respect him as much or more than anyone that posts here which is why I respond to him. So I think he knows where I am coming from, I am basically not responding to him directly but him and everyone else, but mostly the ridiculous bloggers and time waisting media.

gotta go I am going to listen to the seattle game again, maybe this time they wont overturn wittens first down!!

Gotcha.
 

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Warren Sapp is talking like a big, crazy, angry man who just went to McDonald's, ordered a double quarter-pounder with chese meal, and was told "I'm sorry sir, but it's only 9:00 a.m. and we're just serving breakfast until 10:30."
 

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Florio wrote:
dilute a guy’s total pool of competitive juices

I'll ignore the obvious psychoanalysis of Florio's remarks except to point out that he's clearly jealous of Jessica. I mean, it used to be that some of Romo's critics were just jealous of him, this ordinary guy who happened to find himself the QB of America's team and dating a woman who used to be one of America's hottest celebs.

Romo invites criticism when he says things like 'if I never win a Super Bowl I'll still have had a pretty nice life'. Not when he plays GOLF in the OFFSEASON. I have my doubts about Romo but I would love to see him hoist the Lombardi a time or three just to shut these folks up.
 

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This hurts to say, but I half-blame Parcells for all the **** that Romo takes.

He signed on with ESPN, and basically his first segment was his QB commandments - and obviously everyone was running down the checklist with Romo. It's never going to go away. I think that was a dick move from Parcells. He knew that's what would happen, and his "Don't be a celebrity QB" was a call-out. Dumb.

I don't think that's the whole 9 yards, but I think it plays a part. Noone is talking about David Garrard crapping the bed after getting paid. I realize Cowboys QB is alot higher profile than Jags QB, and there's really no story in David Garrard, but whatever.

Basically I'm just saying Parcells is part to blame for the crap that Romo has to take. First off for being a superstitious person and refusing to switch to a full time holder once Romo became the starter, and second for those stupid QB commandments.
 

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superpunk;2775895 said:
This hurts to say, but I half-blame Parcells for all the **** that Romo takes.

I think I have read it all now. Blame the coach who brought Romo along as carefully as he could for the criticisms he's receiving by his very own actions? Alright, let's then completely shield poor Tony from everyone and everything, including a head coach he owes a lot of his football life to.

He signed on with ESPN, and basically his first segment was his QB commandments - and obviously everyone was running down the checklist with Romo. It's never going to go away. I think that was a dick move from Parcells. He knew that's what would happen, and his "Don't be a celebrity QB" was a call-out. Dumb.

If anything, I doubt Coach Parcells was intentionally trying to pull a "dick move". He's been fairly upfront how he holds Romo in high regard. It wasn't a "call-out" as much as it was a paternal reminder. And I do think he shared these commandments with Romo all along.

Basically I'm just saying Parcells is part to blame for the crap that Romo has to take. First off for being a superstitious person and refusing to switch to a full time holder once Romo became the starter, and second for those stupid QB commandments.

He said he kept Romo as a holder because he was superstitious? That's a new one to me.

I have seen quite a bit of lamentation about Coach Parcells here and there are plenty of things to blame him for. The Romo flap isn't one of them.
 

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The criticisms are undeserved. Parcells I guess had nothing better to talk about than to lay down some stupid QB commandments. "No celebrity QBs". Romo was right when asked about that specifically - "That's a celebrity coach, right there." It was a stupid thing to say. It wasn't needed. Kind of like when Tiki Barber got himself a desk job and decided to rail on Eli.

I don't think Romo would receive nearly as much unwarranted criticism if Parcells had kept the commandments private, between him and Romo. But he decided to make a spectacle of it - a ratings play to get his face out there even more - and the "celebrity QB" bit stuck and people have run with it. It's not anymore true of Romo than it is of Peyton or Brady, but Romo is an easier target because Bill Parcells started the ball rolling on him.
 

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So, what is Romo supposed to do after hearing that the solution to the Cowboys' problems is for him to stop playing golf in the spring and get a different girlfriend?
 

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Sapps stupidity has never surprised me.

Dude is an idiot.
 
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