DMN | Who's the better draft pick: Larry Allen or Michael Irvin

[irvin88]

So Larry gets graded lower because he is younger and had to play for us when Jerry was in delusion mode as GM?

Not in my book.

Erik Williams was 2 times the player allen was before car accident.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

The Cowboys won three Superbowls without Jim Brown. Guess he wasn't that good.

 

[RS12]

Erik Williams was 2 times the player allen was before car accident.

 

[TheDallasDon]

NEED I SAY MORE
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[Plumfool]

Ill go with the man who dominated 3 postions in his day. As great as irvin was he wasn't considered the best wideout of his time

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Larry Allen dominated his position like no other Cowboy....

 

[Four]

Ill go with the man who dominated 3 postions in his day. As great as irvin was he wasn't considered the best wideout of his time

you know what, he should have been. Should have been 1a and 1b in my opinion.

Mike was every bit as good as Jerry on a good day.

Matter of fact, on their best day I take Irvin over Rice. Michael could do anything jerry could and was far more physical. Step slower than jerry but that's the only knock.

 

[RS12]

you know what, he should have been. Should have been 1a and 1b in my opinion.

Mike was every bit as good as Jerry on a good day.

Matter of fact, on their best day I take Irvin over Rice. Michael could do anything jerry could and was far more physical. Step slower than jerry but that's the only knock.

I love Michael Irvin but you gotta stop. Jerry Rice is one of the 5 greatest players of all time. If you asked 100 experts who they would take at WR 98 will say Rice, it is not even close.

 

[Four]

I love Michael Irvin but you gotta stop. Jerry Rice is one of the 5 greatest players of all time. If you asked 100 experts who they would take at WR 98 will say Rice, it is not even close.

I watched mike every sunday, and I ended up watching rice too because of the rivalry.

Jerry Rice was not a better receiver than Micheal Irvin.

Jerry played a lot longer than Mike and was faster.

On Sunday when it really mattered, Michael Irvin was a better player.

 

[Hostile]

Erik Williams was 2 times the player allen was before car accident.

:laugh2:

I love slapstick.

 

[Four]

:laugh2:

I love slapstick.

he wasn't twice the player but erik williams was better.

 

[dmq]

It is all about the rings. Plus, I just didn't like how Larry faded. Michael never would have gone out like that.

 

[Hoods]

Larry Allen and it shouldn't be a debate.

 

[RS12]

Larry Allen and it shouldn't be a debate.

It isnt for most people on the board, a few people just never seem to get it.

 

[Cowboysfan570]

While I love Michael Irvin, there are more guys who have played at his level at his position than there have been guys who have played at Larry Allen's level at his.

Can anybody name three o-linemen who were as good or better from any franchise? I sure can't. Can anybody name three WRs as good or better than Irvin from any franchise? I can.

 

[KJJ]

I watched mike every sunday, and I ended up watching rice too because of the rivalry.

Jerry Rice was not a better receiver than Micheal Irvin.

Jerry played a lot longer than Mike and was faster.

On Sunday when it really mattered, Michael Irvin was a better player.

 

[jobberone]

It's not even close. One is the best OL I've ever seen. Better than Hannah and better than Munoz. The other is top 20 WR. The best player was a second round pick and the other a top 15 pick. Now who is the better value?

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

The question "Who's the better draft pick" is too vague. Better based on what criterion? If I interpret it as there being 2 players left in a current draft, Larry Allen and Michael Irvin, and it's my pick to make, meaning if I choose one I cannot have the other on my roster, then I have to personally go with Michael Irvin.

Yes Larry Allen was relatively better at his position than Michael Irvin was at his, but not by much when you consder how good Irvin was. Irvin played the more important position on offense, excelled at it like a top-2 or 3 player at his position in his era, was a key to all Super Bowl wins and all playoff wins, and he was the ultimate team leader. As it stands, Micael Irvin was the heart and soul of a Dynasty, and as good as Larry Allen was he'll never come close to claiming that.

 

[Rack]

As far as value for the pick, Allen and it's not even close.


As far as who did more for the team (not just stats, but as a leader) then Irvin... and it's not even close. Irvin was the HEART of a dynasty and the unquestionable vocal/emotional leader.

 

[2much2soon]

It is hard to dispute that LA was the best at his position, easily arguable of all time.

But without Michael Irvin, those teams are losing in the playoffs instead of winning SBs.

I'd be willing to bet the guys that played with Irvin would laugh at the idea of LA being more important to the team than Irvin.

Irvin was the guy who wouldn't accept anything less than his teammates working their tails off and competing at their highest level. He was the first guy in line to defend his teammates on the field. He was the guy that made the plays that had to be made.

LA was the guy that, by most accounts, barely said a word to anyone. Nobody wanted any part of him, and he pushed around a kicker once, but I never once noticed the team playing on a different level because of his talent or leadership.

Guys with unreal talent like LA are fun to watch but it is a lot easier to win championships with a guy like Irvin.