Do Jerry's Pet Cats and Out-dated philosophies taint Dallas Play-Calling?

[T-RO]

Never happened... Jerry has NEVER dictated who plays and how much, biggest false narrative here. NEVER proof he intervenes in anything.,sorry show me proof the OC/HC job is to devise Gameplans and call pays and adjust in games. Did jerry MAKE KM only call 16 run plays in the niner game? not use malik UMM NO WAY!!. BTW what the league average on 1st down runs need to see all 32 teams ..btw 3.5 x3 =1st down not bad for run game or power back ES22 lived off that in the 90s..He had entire years with averages at 4.0 or under, FACT

to add to that without showing he run on first downs and sell these OTHER things you talk about doesn't work, try harder to understand how playcalls set up other calls.

again, stop the nonsense with conspiracy theory's about jerry , its never ever been proven its fan made narrative..

Jerry was never jealous of a coach, was he?

Jerry never wanted to play coach, did he?

 

[kskboys]

Never once crossed my mind that Jerry insisted on running Zeke in first down like that. If he did that’s silly and insane because it didn’t work.

I think it was honestly Kellen. I know Jerry’s reputation but he’s letting coaches coach.

Far worse.

We knew we needed to run the ball, and were grossly incompetent at doing so. One of the big reasons KMo is gone.

Calling plays is about far more than racking up yards. TOP, setting up the next play, not making it obvious what is coming, there are a ton of things involved in calling plays. Plays called in the 1st qtr can make plays called in the 4th more succussful.

 

[blueblood70]

Jerry was never jealous of a coach, was he?

Jerry never wanted to play coach, did he?

sorry, that doesn't strengthen your argument, over 30 years not one coach or player even suggested jerry got involved in actual gameplan or play calling. all the bad blood he allegedly has with some ex coaches and players, where's your proof..you have NONE.. he doesn't get involved bTW great you pulled pictures from 30 years ago and that's your proof LMAO sorry, it never happened never will happen.. did he overpay zeke to be our starter and expected zeke to start or play a lot, umm sure that's understood especially given this player put up better career numbers then TD and many other greats.. he was our Offense for years.. when healthy he still was relative as he started both 21/22 at nearly 5 YPC until he got hurt, hes known as one of the best short yardage guys in the nfl.. why would they use him in those situations a lot?
does it matter now? both are gone time to look ahead to 23...


now back to go get your porioof for all 32 teams runig on forst down and how they stack up to zekes and ours. all 32 show me how that so out of sync with league averages..

 

[kskboys]

sorry, that doesn't strengthen your argument, over 30 years not one coach or player even suggested jerry got involved in actual gameplan or play calling. all the bad blood he allegedly has with some ex coaches and players, where's your proof..you have NONE.. he doesn't get involved bTW great you pulled pictures from 30 years ago and that's your proof LMAO sorry, it never happened never will happen.. did he overpay zeke to be our starter and expected zeke to start or play a lot, umm sure that's understood especially given this player put up better career numbers then TD and many other greats.. he was our Offense for years.. when healthy he still was relative as he started both 21/22 at nearly 5 YPC until he got hurt, hes known as one of the best short yardage guys in the nfl.. why would they use him in those situations a lot?
does it matter now? both are gone time to look ahead to 23...


now back to go get your porioof for all 32 teams runig on forst down and how they stack up to zekes and ours. all 32 show me how that so out of sync with league averages..

No one wanted to give inside info on the guy that pays them? No way.

 

[T-RO]

now back to go get your porioof for all 32 teams runig on forst down and how they stack up to zekes and ours.

Not sure what you are trying to say.

Here's a comparison that will make sense for some - 1st down carries:

Zeke: 121 carries, 3.5 average
Pollard: 115 carries, 5.2 average

 

[fivetwos]

Jerry was never jealous of a coach, was he?

Jerry never wanted to play coach, did he?

Is that a whistle? What a joke.

What pro sports owner does that? Answer: no one. Look at the yes-man taking him seriously so he can keep his job. Pathetic.

Look at the age difference in Jerry, and not a single conference championship appearance since.

I guess we are supposed to be thankful that he allowed us to win before his ego stole a quarter century plus (and counting) from us.

 

[CouchCoach]

Never once crossed my mind that Jerry insisted on running Zeke in first down like that. If he did that’s silly and insane because it didn’t work.

I think it was honestly Kellen. I know Jerry’s reputation but he’s letting coaches coach.

As long as they’re featuring the players he wants featured, they’re OK.

I do not see him getting too involved and don’t know if he still gets the game plans each week for his approval. But you can bet that entire coaching staff knows what he wants and they have to make sure they cover his ego.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

As long as they’re featuring the players he wants featured, they’re OK.

I do not see him getting too involved and don’t know if he still gets the game plans each week for his approval. But you can bet that entire coaching staff knows what he wants and they have to make sure they cover his ego.

I mean who fits this role though aside from Zeke? Who gets snaps that shouldn’t?

 

[MyFairLady]

Jerry is without question the single biggest obstacle this team has to overcome year after year.

 

[blueblood70]

Not sure what you are trying to say.

Here's a comparison that will make sense for some - 1st down carries:

Zeke: 121 carries, 3.5 average
Pollard: 115 carries, 5.2 average

don't need that Pollard cant play 60 snaps hes barely good for 18 runs ie his last 5 games 3.8 YPC, 51 YPG, no tds, and no explosive plays and hurt twice over that span to boot. want to know why? he cant handle all those runs on his own, especially inside, he got wore down just with his expended role.. they have to split caries and TP doesn't always run inside and you cant run 100% of time outside they are symbiotic, you need better understanding of how play calls work and why they use them to set up other plays. again, show me the league average for all first down runs with backs like zeke...

 

[blueblood70]

I mean who fits this role though aside from Zeke? Who gets snaps that shouldn’t?

ahh someone gets it. some implied since TPs numbers are that good he should get all the first down runs and run the same plays that work every time..no understanding of play calls and players with different styles and how coaches use them to set up each other LOL ES22 had etars full seaosn where he aveaged under 4YPC and soemhow soem jackwagons are impying 3.5 is bad for zeke on first downs.

 

[jazzcat22]

Perhaps the biggest boat anchor holding back the Dallas 2022 offense was this:
Ezekiel Elliott first down runs

Here's the scoop
-When Dallas ran Elliott on first down (121 times): 3.5 yard average,
-When Dallas did anything else on first down (361 times) : 5.4 yard average

We know Zeke has always been Jerry's Pet Cat. And many justifiably suspect Kellen Moore was pressured into emphasizing Zeke runs on 1st down to appease Jerry. (If you doubt that we can discuss)

I don't think Jerry intervenes in a lot of areas. Do believe he has particular fixations.

NO....Jerry and his pet cats...or in this case an attempt to start another Zeke hate thread has nothing to do with it.

it was KM .... and his idiotic play calling at times had to do with that. Running Zeke, and an injured Zeke into a stacked box on obvious running play. From his predictable offense.

 

[jazzcat22]

Jerry was never jealous of a coach, was he?

Jerry never wanted to play coach, did he?

BS...that is a roster card, not a play card...zoom up and look at it. It has players and height and weights...

Once again using false information too hate on Jerry....

BUSTED....

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Like so many running backs, Elliott wasn't so good after 3 or 4 years. Jerry (and a lot of fans here) failed to track Zeke's fast decline to worthlessness.

And...Yet... Jerry with his puppet boy Head Coach still talk of bringing Zeke back for a Redemption Tour.

Bring him back baby! Another 2 yard run on first down!

 

[big dog cowboy]

I don’t know what happened to Elliot

Decided to get bigger and stronger instead of maintaining his quickness and speed.

It only accelerated his decline and value.

 

[Cowboys5217]

It was clearly Coach Jones who was forcing Zeke out there to the detriment of the team. No one else would intentionally hinder their team like that.

 

[CouchCoach]

I mean who fits this role though aside from Zeke? Who gets snaps that shouldn’t?

All it takes is one player.

Do you think he did a 160M deal with Prescott for him to hand the ball off? He wants a star. And Booger's ego is the type he wants to make sure the fans think Prescott is worth it. Problem is 40M to a QB, 15M to a RB, who ya gonna feature?

One thing that's really different about this team is that the GM opens himself up to criticism but he does not respond well to it and is more than aware of what's being said about him. No other GM ion the league even opens himself up to it. But then Booger loves him some media while all the others eschew it.

He should not have spent a 4th pick on a RB and then should not have given him the biggest RB contract in history and he's been trying to put that in the face of his critics ever since it happened.

Did anyone really think Elliott was the best option at RB last season? Think every D they faced didn't prefer tackling Elliott to chasing Pollard?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

All it takes is one player.

Do you think he did a 160M deal with Prescott for him to hand the ball off? He wants a star. And Booger's ego is the type he wants to make sure the fans think Prescott is worth it. Problem is 40M to a QB, 15M to a RB, who ya gonna feature?

One thing that's really different about this team is that the GM opens himself up to criticism but he does not respond well to it and is more than aware of what's being said about him. No other GM ion the league even opens himself up to it. But then Booger loves him some media while all the others eschew it.

He should not have spent a 4th pick on a RB and then should not have given him the biggest RB contract in history and he's been trying to put that in the face of his critics ever since it happened.

Did anyone really think Elliott was the best option at RB last season? Think every D they faced didn't prefer tackling Elliott to chasing Pollard?

Not at all. I don't think Jerry complains about them winning if Dak throws it 20 times. Not at all. Its a flawed argument because Lamb on a rookie deal received a bunch of targets. More than Gallup who gets paid more than him.

The Zeke situation was a tricky one. No, he shouldn't have got more carries than Pollard but if you have problems pass protection the answer isn't to sit your best pass protector in Zeke. Regardless of how we felt about Zeke the tandem worked. They won 12 games. The tandem worked.

 

[CouchCoach]

Not at all. I don't think Jerry complains about them winning if Dak throws it 20 times. Not at all. Its a flawed argument because Lamb on a rookie deal received a bunch of targets. More than Gallup who gets paid more than him.

The Zeke situation was a tricky one. No, he shouldn't have got more carries than Pollard but if you have problems pass protection the answer isn't to sit your best pass protector in Zeke. Regardless of how we felt about Zeke the tandem worked. They won 12 games. The tandem worked.

What's your point about Lamb's targets? He was the #1 pick, you think they're not going to know their job is to make Booger look good. They also had Cooper and wanted him to look like a smart move.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

What's your point about Lamb's targets? He was the #1 pick, you think they're not going to know their job is to make Booger look good. They also had Cooper and wanted him to look like a smart move.

Its just makes no sense. So if Jerry wants to look right why did he trade him for a 5th rounder lol? Why did they let Trysten Hill go? Why did they let Jaylon go right after signing him? Jerry is a lot of things but "trying to look good"....I don't think that's something he's trying to achieve. He can't win anyone over until he wins a ring and even then people won't be satisfied.