Do Jerry's Pet Cats and Out-dated philosophies taint Dallas Play-Calling?

[diamonddelts]

They would bring him back to compliment Pollard. Zeke is still very good in pass protection and it seems that may be a concern for their backs. Y’all think Mike is a puppet? Interesting….

He is not a compliment for anyone in his current washed condition.

 

[diamonddelts]

Thank you thread starter for elegantly articulating what I've been saying for the last 2 years. Zeke is a drive killer. Three yards and a cloud of dust constantly put Dallas in a hole on later downs. Yet some here foolishly reclassified Zeke as a short yardage back because of miraculous third down conversions. Yet often times he was the reason Dallas was in the hole on third and long due to his inefficiency of gaining any real yardage on first down runs.

If you need 3 Zeke will get you 3.

If you need 30, Zeke will get you 3.

 

[blueblood70]

No, I wouldn't have wanted Pollard carrying the ball 100-200 more carries last year. I would have preferred we had drafted or signed a different back than Zeke last offseason.

Sadly Zeke had a big contract and there would have been dead money. Jerry fell victim to sunk-cost fallacy. That and his irrational Zeke fixation.

that doesn't bolster the debate, zeke was here and he was the best option for those 1sts down runs. and im betting not much off for league average for short yardage type back for obvious run downs..

 

[diamonddelts]

Oh great ....... Another anti zeke thread months after the guy was released.

Jeebus

 

[diamonddelts]

Not sure what you are trying to say.

Here's a comparison that will make sense for some - 1st down carries:

Zeke: 121 carries, 3.5 average
Pollard: 115 carries, 5.2 average

Yeo. Stevie could see the difference in production during the games.

 

[CouchCoach]

No none of thats true .. That's 100% speculation you can write all you want I hear the same things I've watched pretty much all sports programs on TV and while I'm driving in my truck or my car I hardly listen to music... I listen to sports stations.

I hear all the nonsense, I see all the shows, none of them have proof Jerry can say whatever he wants most of it is actually parroting coming from the coaches you have it backwards. he does probably sit in meetings, he's at practice, he's listening to the things that the coaches and the staff are saying and the fact is you're making it specific where it's more about hey we need to get our best players and our weapons more touches ,why not? that's exactly what any coaching staff would be concerned with, that's a general statement for any team and some of our coaches in the past and recently have not made that happen. they've not been very good at using every opportunity for all the weapons we have to get enough touches Jerry does not control how many passes and runs and who's getting targets I promise you that show me the proof 30 years lots of disgruntled ex-coaches employees and not one has been on any interviews in this saturated Dallas cowboy TV market has had any proof that he's ever done that and if it was it would have been the first five years post Switzer and that is not what's been happening lately.


I mean, I can see what you're trying to imply but here's the thing he's been here 30 years running this team and he's burned a few bridges with players and coaches that could have easily come out and outed Jerry and this doesn't get by the Media Trust me they camp out at the star they follow the Cowboys around TMZ probably got one special group of staff members that just followed the Dallas Cowboys somebody would have found proof of any of this ever being true over the last 30 years and as much as people want to keep saying it it's not true because it's never been proven there's no speculation it's nonsense it's something you don't like Jerry so those groups that just really hate Jerry keep pushing narratives that never were true in the first place even the narrative that he's refused to hire a GM is untrue,

Will Mcclay is the GM just because he doesn't have the title, we all know it's true Jerry has an ego issue and he likes to be in the public, he likes to say things ,he likes to hear himself talk but that's like the queen of England she's just a figurehead Jerry has 750 employees or more with the Dallas Cowboys alone he has management layers this is a giant onion like any other corporation and he has a lot of people he trusts below him and if you haven't noticed the last ten years and even more the last five things have changed Will Mcclay and a group of very experienced football people are the pseudo GM's here, he has the title but he is not the person fans keep trying to make him out to be yes he's got a big mouth and he likes to be in the media...

So what it's his team

You call everything DD52 wrote speculation and then proceed to write 3 paragraphs of your own. Which is fine but you really shouldn't call him on none of that being true and all speculation because none of us really knows the dynamics of how this team operates without Johnson or Parcells.

We all see the evidence. The spotlight seeking owner making his own face the face of the franchise and why would anyone doubt he gets the message to his coaching staff what he wants and gets exactly what he wants?

He is a narcissistic egomaniac and his team is his conduit to celebrity status and there has never been an owner like him.

 

[diamonddelts]

that doesn't bolster the debate, zeke was here and he was the best option for those 1sts down runs. and im betting not much off for league average for short yardage type back for obvious run downs..

Zeke was the best option for 1st down runs???????????

Hell no.

 

[diamonddelts]

I mean who fits this role though aside from Zeke? Who gets snaps that shouldn’t?

Any average rb on a N.F.L. roster

 

[diamonddelts]

that doesn't bolster the debate, zeke was here and he was the best option for those 1sts down runs. and im betting not much off for league average for short yardage type back for obvious run downs..

Nope

 

[diamonddelts]

Oh...and I've got a list of honey-do's for you.

Lmao

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He is not a compliment for anyone in his current washed condition.

Possibly.

 

[blueblood70]

You call everything DD52 wrote speculation and then proceed to write 3 paragraphs of your own. Which is fine but you really shouldn't call him on none of that being true and all speculation because none of us really knows the dynamics of how this team operates without Johnson or Parcells.

We all see the evidence. The spotlight seeking owner making his own face the face of the franchise and why would anyone doubt he gets the message to his coaching staff what he wants and gets exactly what he wants?

He is a narcissistic egomaniac and his team is his conduit to celebrity status and there has never been an owner like him.

not alive but raiders owner al davis was worse or the same who cares??

speculation needs proof without proof those saying that those that are speculating have debate won. got it..its like court the accuser/prosecution must prove the case the defense doesn't have to do anything at all if they choose not too, as the burden lies with the accuser.

there's zero proof Jerrys ever interfered with gameplans or how many touches a player should get or who starts or backups up. doesn't mean he doesn't have an opinion as GM he is allowed to share his thoughts but not one shred of proof in 30 years that Jerrys every forced coach to play a player and how many snaps they get. even though back 1997-2003 we saw a lot of signs of him being too close to the coaches ect but the last 10 years not so much all a big mouthpiece. Ego yes ,but all the speculation hes influencing gameplans and roster depth on gameday. Um not even one accusations with validity from an ex-coach or player. heck not even a true rumor that he didnt that even one time , and when you think about the microscope the Dallas Cowboys are under with the NFL the media social media TMZ just basically 24/7 there would have been some kind of actual hard proof that he ever did that did he ever forced the coach to play a player or a number of snaps the player would play or an actual game plan we all even as fans after we watch a game say they should have ran the ball more or they should have threw it less or threw it more that's what people do just because Jerry comes on after a game when he has a microphone thrown in his face and says he thought maybe they could have ran the ball more or he thought they should have kept the hot hand,

you know like game one last year who wouldn't have said that was the dumbest game plan I've ever seen, Kellen Moore goes back and uses the 2021 game one game plan for the Tampa Bay game one 202 and just tried to throw the ball over the yard when Ezekiel Elliott comes out running 5.3 yards per carry and gets two carries in the second-half when it was clear when you basically lost a bunch of players on offense over the offseason especially amari Cooper and Cedric Wilson and you have a new redesigned offensive line and basically Noah brown being the number two wide receiver you don't come out and throw the ball that much but he did....

who wouldn't come in post-game or throughout the week and notice that the game plans have been weak and need some adjustments or we need to lean on the run game more.

 

[stuckindc]

Zeke starting over Pollard last year was to the point where it was weird. Everyone saw who the better player was. Those first down runs by Zeke right into the middle looked like Moore was trying to check off a box more than accomplish anything. When illogical stuff like that happens, people naturally look for an alternative explanation and the easy one here is that Jerry was dictating playing time, starters and touches to the coaches. Not sure if true but I don't have many other good explanations.

Pollard should have been starting the last two years

 

[CowboyRoy]

No none of thats true .. That's 100% speculation you can write all you want I hear the same things I've watched pretty much all sports programs on TV and while I'm driving in my truck or my car I hardly listen to music... I listen to sports stations.

I hear all the nonsense, I see all the shows, none of them have proof Jerry can say whatever he wants most of it is actually parroting coming from the coaches you have it backwards. he does probably sit in meetings, he's at practice, he's listening to the things that the coaches and the staff are saying and the fact is you're making it specific where it's more about hey we need to get our best players and our weapons more touches ,why not? that's exactly what any coaching staff would be concerned with, that's a general statement for any team and some of our coaches in the past and recently have not made that happen. they've not been very good at using every opportunity for all the weapons we have to get enough touches Jerry does not control how many passes and runs and who's getting targets I promise you that show me the proof 30 years lots of disgruntled ex-coaches employees and not one has been on any interviews in this saturated Dallas cowboy TV market has had any proof that he's ever done that and if it was it would have been the first five years post Switzer and that is not what's been happening lately.


I mean, I can see what you're trying to imply but here's the thing he's been here 30 years running this team and he's burned a few bridges with players and coaches that could have easily come out and outed Jerry and this doesn't get by the Media Trust me they camp out at the star they follow the Cowboys around TMZ probably got one special group of staff members that just followed the Dallas Cowboys somebody would have found proof of any of this ever being true over the last 30 years and as much as people want to keep saying it it's not true because it's never been proven there's no speculation it's nonsense it's something you don't like Jerry so those groups that just really hate Jerry keep pushing narratives that never were true in the first place even the narrative that he's refused to hire a GM is untrue,

Will Mcclay is the GM just because he doesn't have the title, we all know it's true Jerry has an ego issue and he likes to be in the public, he likes to say things ,he likes to hear himself talk but that's like the queen of England she's just a figurehead Jerry has 750 employees or more with the Dallas Cowboys alone he has management layers this is a giant onion like any other corporation and he has a lot of people he trusts below him and if you haven't noticed the last ten years and even more the last five things have changed Will Mcclay and a group of very experienced football people are the pseudo GM's here, he has the title but he is not the person fans keep trying to make him out to be yes he's got a big mouth and he likes to be in the media...

So what it's his team

Your missing the big element in the room.

Jerry is the only one dumb enough to think zeke is really that good. And the only guy dumb enough to not see how good pollard was.

100% jerry pushing zeke on the offense.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Pollard should have been starting the last two years

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[CowboysFaninHouston]

Perhaps the biggest boat anchor holding back the Dallas 2022 offense was this:
Ezekiel Elliott first down runs

Here's the scoop
-When Dallas ran Elliott on first down (121 times): 3.5 yard average,
-When Dallas did anything else on first down (361 times) : 5.4 yard average

We know Zeke has always been Jerry's Pet Cat. And many justifiably suspect Kellen Moore was pressured into emphasizing Zeke runs on 1st down to appease Jerry. (If you doubt that we can discuss)

I don't think Jerry intervenes in a lot of areas. Do believe he has particular fixations.

Pet cats. Pet coaches. Twice he tried to.find the next genius and twice he failed. 15 years of wasted time

 

[Big_D]

Your missing the big element in the room.

Jerry is the only one dumb enough to think zeke is really that good. And the only guy dumb enough to not see how good pollard was.

100% jerry pushing zeke on the offense.

You can’t have a guy making that kind of money in a backup role. So instead Jerry rather pretend that he’s a superstar. Still peddling the idea that the offense runs through Zeke when the “#2” RB is clearly the better player. So Jerry just comes off looking like a dumazz either way. The love affair from the front office really reached a ridiculous level. Stephen talking about how good he looked and hasn’t lost a step is comical. But you know him and his dingbat father really felt that way. A pretty disturbing turn of events in those final few years and some actually want to bring that back? lol Not to worry cause Jerry will be first in line with roses..

 

[kskboys]

Decided to get bigger and stronger instead of maintaining his quickness and speed.

It only accelerated his decline and value.

The Corona virus didn't help.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Zeke was Jerry's worst offense by far

2 words J G ..its not even close.

 

[Pass2Run]

Jerry was never jealous of a coach, was he?

Jerry never wanted to play coach, did he?

Go look at what he did before the San Fran game. There's a clip of him walking up to Maher, putting his arm around him, and shaking him, saying something in his ear... that should tell you all you need to know.

That said, that's only 10 percent of Jerry. I like most things about the guy. But the few things I don't like are pretty big things for some people, even though I can look past them. He just came from a different era.