Do you care if we resign Dak?

thunderpimp91

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The way I see it, the choices are simple…

Give Prescott what he wants, be a contender for the next few years and hope he improves on the big stage…

OR…..

Completely blow it up and understand that they are going to be a bottom ten team until they luck into a Burrow type situation, or they become willing to hire a staff capable of winning without a top QB.

Which do you think Jerry will ultimately choose?
Why does it have to be either-or? This is a team that has won 12 games three years in a row and is 5-1 without him over that period of time. I agree you most likely will be downgrading at QB if you replace him, but you have a pretty talented team and cap flex next year depending on how they handle the next couple months.
 

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Things will end up a lot worse without Dak unless we get very lucky. We’ll struggle to win 7-8 games with a lesser QB with all the inconsistencies we’ve had stopping the run, along with other defensive breakdowns in big games. We’ve had some issues on the OL with Dak facing constant pressure. Only time will tell if the new additions on the OL will improve things. We have virtually nothing at RB right now and we’ve had struggles running the ball consistently for years. We lead the league in penalties or come close to it practically every year.

If we put a lesser QB on this team, we’re going to be in deep trouble! Someone is bound to bring up the wins we had with Cooper Rush a couple of years ago. Go back and look how great our defense/pass rush was playing during those wins and how well we ran the football, despite having little passing game. Unless we’re able to play consistently solid defense and consistently run the football, we’re going to struggle with a lesser QB and you can book it!
"Deep trouble." Lmao. Dallas will not win any playoff games with or without Prescott. And ignorant Cowboys fans will continue to fill the stadium, purchase merchandise, and inflate TV revenue no matter how much Dallas fails.

So what deep trouble does GM Leatherface and the boys face?
 

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I get a sense that man Cowboys fans are either ambivalent or against resigning Dak to an extension.
I think many, myself included, would like to keep Dak but the price point, $55-$60 million a year just seems crazy to reward someone who hasn't produced much tangible success with that type of deal.
We are a better team with him but nothing has shown us that he is worth that investment.
At this point, we can just let it ride out and deal with the future after the season.
He hasn't produced? Wow. We haven't discussed post season production, so let's dig into it. I am very surprised about this.

And where is this 55 to 60 M figure coming from. News to me.

And let's ride it out. Wow. Ok. That's a topic that we haven't discussed. I like to understand reason behind this idea.

Sarcasm fully intended.

I guess people are bored. So let's start another dak thread.
 

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I get a sense that man Cowboys fans are either ambivalent or against resigning Dak to an extension.
I think many, myself included, would like to keep Dak but the price point, $55-$60 million a year just seems crazy to reward someone who hasn't produced much tangible success with that type of deal.
We are a better team with him but nothing has shown us that he is worth that investment.
At this point, we can just let it ride out and deal with the future after the season.
After 8 years,the experiment should be over,he has become the "coach"Jason Garrett of QBs..even when he had a stacked deck,he found away to choke.id rather go 0-17 and draft a blue chip qb than go 12-5 and watch boy blunder destroy any hope of doing anything more than another 1 and done.
 

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What's the difference between what Washington has done since Kirk Cousins and what Dallas has done ultimately? Won some regular season games? I agree, the Cowboys have cruelly teased their fans to think they are a winner but in reality both franchises are solid losers in that timeframe. At least Washington doesn't go out and get totally embarrassed in playoff games regularly. What fun is that really? Some people think that is WORSE. Frankly, I am one of them. I'd rather the team be trying to find someone who is better come playoff time even if it means going through some tough seasons. They waste time/careers of other good players either way.
I have not been teased one bit. They are a bottom playoff team. I think that is GM Jethro's peak - just hanging out at the rim. He is comfortable with that.
 

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It would be stupid to at this point, so I fully expect Jerry to announce they signed him at 90 million, because spending more money is "all-in."
 

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I have not been teased one bit. They are a bottom playoff team. I think that is GM Jethro's peak - just hanging out at the rim. He is comfortable with that.
I don't think Jerry thinks that way, maybe Stephen but Jerry was extra disappointed after that GB playoff game. It was obvious. That's why I'll be surprised if they pay Dak or any of these guys that want big contracts without some playoff success. He might have changed his mind.
 

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I get a sense that man Cowboys fans are either ambivalent or against resigning Dak to an extension.
I think many, myself included, would like to keep Dak but the price point, $55-$60 million a year just seems crazy to reward someone who hasn't produced much tangible success with that type of deal.
We are a better team with him but nothing has shown us that he is worth that investment.
At this point, we can just let it ride out and deal with the future after the season.
After the GB beatdown it's time to move on from Prescot, the guy is a proven loser of big games. I'm sick and tired of this QB who's stats are built up from beating toads and prevent defenses. He's been in the league since 2016 and hasn't come close to playoff success since his 1st year in the league. The GB was supposed to be Prescot's coming out game and it turned out to be anything but that. Prescot looked shell shocked at the half and only came alive when GB's defense backed off. Let Rush and Lance compete for the starting job, if they both fail then that means that the Cowboys will be drafting somewhere between the 1st to 10th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft.
 

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What's the difference between what Washington has done since Kirk Cousins and what Dallas has done ultimately? Won some regular season games?
Is that a serious question? Washington has had a losing record every year since they allowed Cousins to walk except in 2022 when they went 8-8-1. They made the playoffs once since Cousins left and that was with a 7-9 record. They’ve been bad every year since he left. The Cowboys have had good competitive teams every year except for 2019 and 2020 when Dak was injured. The Cowboys have made the playoffs four times since Cousins left Washington and won the NFC East three times. While Washington was sitting home almost every season we had a chance in the playoffs. Just because we haven’t gone far in the playoffs doesn’t put us on par with Washington. We’ve had much better teams and it’s a fact! You fans who think just because the Cowboys get knocked off in the playoffs, it’s no different than a team that didn’t make the playoffs. That’s ridiculous!
 

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What's the difference between what Washington has done since Kirk Cousins and what Dallas has done ultimately? Won some regular season games? I agree, the Cowboys have cruelly teased their fans to think they are a winner but in reality both franchises are solid losers in that timeframe. At least Washington doesn't go out and get totally embarrassed in playoff games regularly. What fun is that really? Some people think that is WORSE. Frankly, I am one of them. I'd rather the team be trying to find someone who is better come playoff time even if it means going through some tough seasons. They waste time/careers of other good players either way.
No one in their right mind would rather miss the playoffs then go.
 

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Those that don’t care if we re-sign Dak either honestly believe he’s no good or could care less if the Cowboys go in the dumpster for a number of years. I’m hearing a lot of fans on this board saying they’re willing to take the risk of moving on from him and seeing what happens. I’m not willing to end up like Washington has since they elected to move on from Kirk Cousins. He’s far from perfect, but he’s pretty good and kept them competitive. There’s a reason he’s still around making big money. It’s because it’s very difficult to find a solid QB. You have teams using high first round picks that are over drafting QBs that shouldn’t have ever been a first round pick because the need is so great. That’s the risk the Cowboys take by not re-signing Dak. If you’re just looking to Dak bash and have nothing intelligent to say, then don’t bother responding to this post.
Fear mongering at its finest.

Dont try to improve you will fail!
Not admitting the equal possibilty you wont fail.

Not my style.
 

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I wont believe that until it happens, like Patrik says "this is hardball"
This is Jerry resenting other teams’ actions directing what he’s going to do. Dak isn’t playing “hardball”. He and his agent aren’t playing, period. Dak is under contract. He has zero leverage. Next March, Jerry has zero leverage. At that point, to retain Dak’s services Jerry need only offer Dak the deal he likes the most. It will be the largest contract Jerry has ever offered a player. There is nothing Jerry can do about it other than say goodbye to Dak and get nothing in return for a player in significant demand.
 

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"Deep trouble." Lmao. Dallas will not win any playoff games with or without Prescott.
I said I was looking for an intelligent response. :rolleyes: If you think they can’t win with him or with anyone else then the problem isn’t the QB.
 

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Is that a serious question? Washington has had a losing record every year since they allowed Cousins to walk except in 2022 when they went 8-8-1. They made the playoffs once since Cousins left and that was with a 7-9 record. They’ve been bad every year since he left. The Cowboys have had good competitive teams every year except for 2019 and 2020 when Dak was injured. The Cowboys have made the playoffs four times since Cousins left Washington and won the NFC East three times. While Washington was sitting home almost every season we had a chance in the playoffs. Just because we haven’t gone far in the playoffs doesn’t put us on par with Washington. We’ve had much better teams and it’s a fact! You fans who think just because the Cowboys get knocked off in the playoffs, it’s no different than a team that didn’t make the playoffs. That’s ridiculous!
I don't think it is ridiculous to expect/want better playoff play if we are going to go. To pom-pom for regular season ticker parades is lame to me. I just guess I have a different standard of good. I want the hottest babe possible, you are ok with the 5/10 or 6/10 looking girl. Washington's GF is ugly as a wet dog barking in a river. So, I get it. At least you admit you are OK with a 6 GF... LOL!
 

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Why does it have to be either-or? This is a team that has won 12 games three years in a row and is 5-1 without him over that period of time. I agree you most likely will be downgrading at QB if you replace him, but you have a pretty talented team and cap flex next year depending on how they handle the next couple months.
See...you get it. And it's not a shot directly at the QB, it's just the consequence of what's been created by the organization.
 
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