Do you feel that this offense is "rolling"?

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If you're trying to sell the story that those teams give their best effort against Dallas and coast or take it easy otherwise, it is I who will be doing the "laughing".

Of any and all lame, unsupportable excuses for this team that one could come up with, that's among the worst.


Who do you consider to be a team that will prove it to you.

If you wont consider that the teams stand up , which i fully believe, if you dont , thats ok.

Who are your teams to prove it
 

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Who do you consider to be a team that will prove it to you.

Eagles, Chargers, Seahawks at this point. Seattles is ranked 1st for fewest pats against. The Chargers 8th, and Philly 12th. If you can put up big point against them, that would truly be impressive.

And considering what Wentz and the Eagles are doing offensively, the Cowboys will need to do just that to win either or both of those upcoming games. Or to have a chance to get back in the race for the division.

If you wont consider that the teams stand up , which i fully believe, if you dont , thats ok.

I look at it this way, if those teams "stand up", does that somehow mean the Cowboys "don't"? So, if both teams "stand up", isn't it a wash?
 

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Undoubtedly they are. Just as Denver's rankings got a big boost from throttling us. But nothing happens in a vacuum and it's not worth it or accurate to take the time and effort to divide those collective numbers. The flip side to the argument is how would Dallas' offense look if they hadn't played this poorly-ranked defenses?

The one top defense they have played thus far stole their lunch money. And the pattern begs the question of which is the biggest factor? The Dallas offense being that good? Or the defenses they've faced being that bad?

That was essentially the genesis of me asking the original question, to see what everyone else thought.

I personally think they are already good and getting better. Maybe not as good as last year yet but the they are getting better due to the line play being more consistent. I think this weekend will give us a good indication on where they are. If they can score against the DeadSkins in bad weather, I think we can safely say they are a very good offense.
 

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I personally think they are already good and getting better. Maybe not as good as last year yet but the they are getting better due to the line play being more consistent. I think this weekend will give us a good indication on where they are. If they can score against the DeadSkins in bad weather, I think we can safely say they are a very good offense.

It will be great, especially to get a win. But my own impressions will be a bit more subdued, because, as I mentioned earlier, the Commanders rank 25th in points allowed per game at 24.5.

But there's not much Dallas can do about Washington's rank, only to make it look much worse afterwards! I'll be happy stringing some wins together, no matter what.
 

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It started the season slow but it's rounding out, I think that's expected. W'ell make the playoffs.
 

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Even then, I won't be sure. Washington currently ranks 25th in the league in points per game allowed defensively, at 24.5 per game. Even if we put up 30, I won't be terribly convinced. It will just take more time and better opponents for me I think.

I'll just be happy for that "W"!
Understood...I put a bit more stock into I suppose due to the rivalry game factor...the proverbial "you can throw out the records" saying. Washington will be very hyped for us, particularly coming off that tough loss on the road and looking to bounce back. The crowd will be rocking and it'll be a tough environment (essentially on national TV). Binge able to keep it rolling in that circumstance is more meaningful to me. I have been to many games in Washington over the years (RFK, FedEx, etc.) and I can tell you that place is rough on us.
 

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Not at all. We spent the first month of the season not being able to run the ball like we should. Dez has been underwhelming. Beasley is nearly invisible. There's been little production out of Williams and Butler. I don't get the rolling vibe.

They've been able to put points on the board and that's all that matters and is a credit to the 10 guys on offense but they have not played their best football.
 

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Not at all. We spent the first month of the season not being able to run the ball like we should. Dez has been underwhelming. Beasley is nearly invisible. There's been little production out of Williams and Butler. I don't get the rolling vibe.

They've been able to put points on the board and that's all that matters and is a credit to the 10 guys on offense but they have not played their best football.
Reason for optimism?
 

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Yes, we are rolling now and you will see it tomorrow as well.

The first couple of games the team was still in preseason mode on several fronts. Everything with this team starts with OL and now they are executing as a group. Its taken time for Collins to settle in and for the LG position to settle as well. Also the coaches had to make adjustments to teams selling out for run defense. Zeke needed time as well.

But put it all together and things have started to click, which will be on display Sunday afternoon.
 

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We are 2nd in the league in points per drive and we are 4th in the league in yards per drive.

Yes, the offense is rolling. No caveats. No ifs ands or butts.
 

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Go back and rethink it then. Look over your single contribution to this thread and rethink things. Take some time to self-reflect. Obviously, you can use it.



Maybe doing it against a defense not ranked in the bottom half of the league for starters? How about that one? But no, again, you only see what you want to see, the 31, 30, and 40. Yay! Not the sad truth that it's come against poorly ranked defenses. As per your norm, you'll shut your eyes to that side of the equation.

The crazy part is that you have the nerve and complete lack of self awareness to be attacking anyone else about how they see things. Pot meet kettle.

1st, I'm going to ignore all of the personal stuff. It's an Internet message board bro; it's really not that serious.

2nd, I'm asking you to help me understand what qualifies as "rolling". You answered by criticizing the teams that we "rolled" against. Obviously the Cowboys offense doesn't choose it's opposition each week. So, I guess I'm wondering, how many points would the Cowboys offense have needed to score against the 4 teams that they did play to solidify themselves as "rolling"? 35? 40? 42? 50?



Or is it simply not possible to establish yourself as "rolling" when the 4 teams you squashed were subpar?

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I tend to think this is really where your head's at. In which case your OP could've just said "I keep hearing people say we're rolling on offense but I don't think we are because our opponents sucked".
 

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We are 2nd in the league in points per drive and we are 4th in the league in yards per drive.

Yes, the offense is rolling. No caveats. No ifs ands or butts.

People seem to underestimate how difficult it is to put up the kind of points we put up 4 weeks in a row, regardless of the opposition. We are one of the best, if not the best, offense in the league.
 

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We are scoring points but the passing offense needs some work in my opinion. It's not looking crisp.

I would've agreed with this at the beginning of the season, but these last few weeks have been on point, in my opinion. Dak looks more accurate, ball is getting spread around, O line is protecting good.
 

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1st, I'm going to ignore all of the personal stuff. It's an Internet message board bro; it's really not that serious.

OK, but do give some thought to what I said. I'll leave it at that.

2nd, I'm asking you to help me understand what qualifies as "rolling". You answered by criticizing the teams that we "rolled" against. Obviously the Cowboys offense doesn't choose it's opposition each week. So, I guess I'm wondering, how many points would the Cowboys offense have needed to score against the 4 teams that they did play to solidify themselves as "rolling"? 35? 40? 42? 50?

I stated what each one of our opponents are, and where they're defensively ranked. If that qlaifies as "criticizing" to you, again, maybe you need to recheck your approach. I presented both our scores - which you're obviously happy with. And the defensive rankings against whom those scores came - which apparently you're not happy with. Again, you want to see only one side of the equation. Your issue.

Or is it simply not possible to establish yourself as "rolling" when the 4 teams you squashed were subpar?

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I tend to think this is really where your head's at. In which case your OP could've just said "I keep hearing people say we're rolling on offense but I don't think we are because our opponents sucked".

I'm trying to solicit opinion based on both factors offensive performance and strength of opponent's defense. But you can only see one aspect. That's clear, I get it. You see two colors, black and white. Everything's great or everything sucks. And people are either with you and " everything is awesome!" or they're "haters who think everything sucks!" I get it. You have no in between.

All you want to see is "31 points baby!" And nothing else. Not how they got there, not who those points came against. Not the fact that Bryant averages 50 yards a game, or Beasley's numbers are way down too. Or the fact that all Williams has been good for over the last two games is 6 points the other way.

The only scenario that you can bear to read is one in which everything is perfect. Again, that's your issue, not anybody else's.

The rest of us are capable of discussing all aspects of this question. If you're not, maybe you shouldn't?
 

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We are scoring points but the passing offense needs some work in my opinion. It's not looking crisp.

When Bryant is averaging 50 yards a game and Beasley is well off of his 2016 pace and Williams is only good for plays for the other team, nobody can say this passing game is "rolling" and that has a lot to do with my original question.

If you're not a complete offense, can you be considered to be "rolling"?

If Josh Norman plays this week, can we count on Dez to make plays for us? Or is it another case of him being shut down when he faces one of the league's better corners?

Is it strictly about scoring points? Or is it about being a complete offense, hard to stop in all phases?
 

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OK, but do give some thought to what I said. I'll leave it at that.



I stated what each one of our opponents are, and where they're defensively ranked. If that qlaifies as "criticizing" to you, again, maybe you need to recheck your approach. I presented both our scores - which you're obviously happy with. And the defensive rankings against whom those scores came - which apparently you're not happy with. Again, you want to see only one side of the equation. Your issue.



I'm trying to solicit opinion based on both factors offensive performance and strength of opponent's defense. But you can only see one aspect. That's clear, I get it. You see two colors, black and white. Everything's great or everything sucks. And people are either with you and " everything is awesome!" or they're "haters who think everything sucks!" I get it. You have no in between.

All you want to see is "31 points baby!" And nothing else. Not how they got there, not who those points came against. Not the fact that Bryant averages 50 yards a game, or Beasley's numbers are way down too. Or the fact that all Williams has been good for over the last two games is 6 points the other way.

The only scenario that you can bear to read is one in which everything is perfect. Again, that's your issue, not anybody else's.

The rest of us are capable of discussing all aspects of this question. If you're not, maybe you shouldn't?

You sure typed a lot just then, but I'm sorry I don't think you actually answered my question?

You just seem to want to talk about me. Sorry I got you into such a tizzy.
 

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If consider that that top 3 wrs, Dez, Beez, and Williams haven't really gotten it going, as well as Elliot, but still the offense has been putting up points, I'd say yes, this offense is rolling.
 
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