Do you feel that this offense is "rolling"?

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Well...two things. (1) are the rankings you mention before or after played Cowboys? If those rankings are as of today then Dallas had a part in why they are ranked where they are. (2) Maybe not by you, but if they hadn’t played as well against those same opponents then people would be complaining. So, I say the offense is playing better than 3-3 record would indicate.

Just a reminder we are playing a 1st place schedule this season.



Yeah, Niners had a decent run defense... before they played us.
 

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This offense is hot. 30 points and 400 yards is difficult to do in this league. The change that happened IMO is when Cooper came in and finally gelled with them and Collins got more experience. Dak and Zeke are on fire as well.

What's funny is I still hate this offense. When we go 4-5 wide with empty set, we have every receiver running vertical, no one crossing, or going horizontal. It's maddening. Hence the pressure.

Could you even imagine what Reid, or this new McVay kid could do with this offense??! 600 yards per game? Scary!

I definitely agree with that. I'd stack this offensive personnel and talent against any on the league. I think you would certainly be hard-pressed to find a team with a more significant overall investment there. I take for granted that it should be great. And I'm asking questions if it isn't.

Other than that #2 receiver position, I see a "steak on every plate". Well-stocked across the board.

And that goes for both sides of the ball to me.

Not that the defense is as loaded as the offense of course, but I don't think those coaches are doing the players they have any favors either. Coaches are supposed to put their players in the best position to make plays and I don't think ours do that well enough.
 

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LOL

If the offense isn't considered rolling after 4 consecutive performances like that, then I'd like to know what the definition of rolling is.

Some of you guys, I swear.
 

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Well...two things. (1) are the rankings you mention before or after played Cowboys? If those rankings are as of today then Dallas had a part in why they are ranked where they are. (2) Maybe not by you, but if they hadn’t played as well against those same opponents then people would be complaining. So, I say the offense is playing better than 3-3 record would indicate.

Just a reminder we are playing a 1st place schedule this season.

They're as of today.
 

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Well...two things. (1) are the rankings you mention before or after played Cowboys? If those rankings are as of today then Dallas had a part in why they are ranked where they are. (2) Maybe not by you, but if they hadn’t played as well against those same opponents then people would be complaining. So, I say the offense is playing better than 3-3 record would indicate.

Just a reminder we are playing a 1st place schedule this season.

1st place schedules are not what they were 20 years ago. It really is not any different than any other teams in the NFL. We just so happen to play the AFC & NFC West this year, with both very good divisions except SF.
The only difference between teams are 2 games. And those teams change from year to year on how good or bad they may be.
Like GB we played them with AR, now other teams get to play them without him.
 

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LOL

If the offense isn't considered rolling after 4 consecutive performances like that, then I'd like to know what the definition of rolling is.

Some of you guys, I swear.

"Some of you guys, I swear" too.

If it's not all wine and roses, you can't handle it.

Your issue, nobody else's.
 

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I hope so. I do think the offensive line has started to gel since Cooper replaced Green. And Elliott looks to be back to his old self as well. I think I need to see it more consistently.

But I also have to say that, even during this offensive revival, the passing game still isn't impressing me. Not Dez, not Witten, not Beasley, and certainly not Williams, who's been no factor at all.

As good as the the running game has looked lately, the passing game hasn't looked right to me all year. If they can with the running game working and passing game doing just enough? Great. But I'd still like to see a more efficient passing game out there too, because it's just a matter of time until teams are selling out against a one-dimensional offense.


Yeah it certainly hasn’t looked fluid at all, but if you buy into the numbers, they’re pretty damn similar to last years. Things aren’t coming as easily yet, and obviously teams have worked to take Beasley away which is a big factor. I think they will continue to improve though especially as zeke continues to look like his old self. Maybe wishful thinking but it’s where I’m at
 

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Yeah it certainly hasn’t looked fluid at all, but if you buy into the numbers, they’re pretty damn similar to last years. Things aren’t coming as easily yet, and obviously teams have worked to take Beasley away which is a big factor. I think they will continue to improve though especially as zeke continues to look like his old self. Maybe wishful thinking but it’s where I’m at

You're not alone. That's where I'm at too. I just need to see more of it against some better defenses I guess. If they can out up numbers like this against Washington and Philadelphia? Yeah, then I will truly feel that they've got things together.
 

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"Some of you guys, I swear" too.

If it's not all wine and roses, you can't handle it.

Your issue, nobody else's.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

But back to the topic- please tell me what qualifies as "rolling". I'd love to know.
 

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Some people only want to discuss if everyone agrees

I would hope not. I created this thread to hear all opinions of the topic, and not for someone to simply drop in and indict opinions that don't match their own.

As I mentioned in the OP, I'm still not sure myself. But anybody trying to speak in absolutes while attacking other opinions is just full of ****.
 

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I have no idea what you're talking about.

Go back and rethink it then. Look over your single contribution to this thread and rethink things. Take some time to self-reflect. Obviously, you can use it.

But back to the topic- please tell me what qualifies as "rolling". I'd love to know.

Maybe doing it against a defense not ranked in the bottom half of the league for starters? How about that one? But no, again, you only see what you want to see, the 31, 30, and 40. Yay! Not the sad truth that it's come against poorly ranked defenses. As per your norm, you'll shut your eyes to that side of the equation.

The crazy part is that you have the nerve and complete lack of self awareness to be attacking anyone else about how they see things. Pot meet kettle.
 

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Recently, I've seen this term used quite often to describe the Dallas offense. And I had to say to myself, "I'm not sure?" While you have to love the total points at the end of the day - 28, 30, 31, 40 - you also have to look at the quality of the defense's those scores have come against.

And when you do that, you see that those scores are coming against the 24th, 16th, 22nd, and 28th ranked defense respectively. Middle of the road or worse.

So I have to ask, is the offense "rolling" or are these scores more the result of facing lesser defenses?

I can't decide for sure one way or the other so I was looking to see what everyone else thought?

What were the rankings of the defense that we rolled before we played them? That will give you a better indication how we are doing. Their rankings may be lower now because of us "rolling" them.
 

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What were the rankings of the defense that we rolled before we played them? That will give you a better indication how we are doing. Their rankings may be lower now because of us "rolling" them.

Undoubtedly they are. Just as Denver's rankings got a big boost from throttling us. But nothing happens in a vacuum and it's not worth it or accurate to take the time and effort to divide those collective numbers. The flip side to the argument is how would Dallas' offense look if they hadn't played this poorly-ranked defenses?

The one top defense they have played thus far stole their lunch money. And the pattern begs the question of which is the biggest factor? The Dallas offense being that good? Or the defenses they've faced being that bad?

That was essentially the genesis of me asking the original question, to see what everyone else thought.
 

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Recently, I've seen this term used quite often to describe the Dallas offense. And I had to say to myself, "I'm not sure?" While you have to love the total points at the end of the day - 28, 30, 31, 40 - you also have to look at the quality of the defense's those scores have come against.

And when you do that, you see that those scores are coming against the 24th, 16th, 22nd, and 28th ranked defense respectively. Middle of the road or worse.

So I have to ask, is the offense "rolling" or are these scores more the result of facing lesser defenses?

I can't decide for sure one way or the other so I was looking to see what everyone else thought?
I think it’s “getting on a roll” - but not quite bonified yet. if we put up 400 and 30+ against the Skins on the road...”we be straight butter cuz we on a roll!” Status.
 

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I think it’s “getting on a roll” - but not quite bonified yet. if we put up 400 and 30+ against the Skins on the road...”we be straight butter cuz we on a roll!” Status.

Even then, I won't be sure. Washington currently ranks 25th in the league in points per game allowed defensively, at 24.5 per game. Even if we put up 30, I won't be terribly convinced. It will just take more time and better opponents for me I think.

I'll just be happy for that "W"!
 

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Even then, I won't be sure. Washington currently ranks 25th in the league in points per game allowed defensively, at 24.5 per game. Even if we put up 30, I won't be terribly convinced. It will just take more time and better opponents for me I think.

I'll just be happy for that "W"!


Who do you consider to be those teams. How much do stats factor in divisional games wheb teams stand up and sacrifice more to beat certain teams.

If you tgink the stats tell the whole story, i will laugh. Commanders and giants kill themselves to beat us.
 

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Who do you consider to be those teams. How much do stats factor in divisional games wheb teams stand up and sacrifice more to beat certain teams.

If you tgink the stats tell the whole story, i will laugh. Commanders and giants kill themselves to beat us.

If you're trying to sell the story that those teams give their best effort against Dallas and coast or take it easy otherwise, it is I who will be doing the "laughing".

Of any and all lame, unsupportable excuses for this team that one could come up with, that's among the worst.
 
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