Do you fire McCarthy?

[Stash]

I’d love to have Payton but Jerry will never pay him his worth.

Sadly, you’re very likely exactly right. Instead we’ll get another sales job from the Jones boys trying to tell people they’re not far away.

All things considered I’m happy with the job McCarthy has done considering what we can get with Jerry Jones ego running the team.

It was just so bad with Garrett that anything that resembles actual NFL coaching is nice.

Plus a lot of these teams have QBs who can extend plays and inflate numbers by making plays outside the system. We don’t have that. We have a below avg passer trying to make plays from the pocket.

It’s certainly better than Garrett. But keep in mind those double digit winning seasons came under a defensive coordinator about to walk out the door.

 

[quickccc]

No offense, but I don’t really care what you buy. I’ve done the homework and Payton’s offenses were ranked higher.

And unlike McCarthy, Payton showed that he could alter his offense from pass to run and still have great success. McCarthy has never shown that.

I’ve looked deeper than merely win-loss records.

- Was McCarthy in a position having to deal with Rodgers in GB, to be able to adjust his offense from pass to run ?

- McCarthy had to deal with QB Aaron Rodgers- who has proven time and time again, that he can be a very difficult jerk to have to work
and play for- feuded and beefed with two different HCs now.

- Whereas Payton did not have to be concerned with bump head riffs with Brees. – but McCarthy did with Rodgers.

 

[Pass2Run]

Pretty much.

We need an actual coach who knows Xs and Os and can adjust. Someone who's an expert at clock management and situaltional football.

I felt like I got punked, as a fan, on that punt, which had a statistically higher chance of success if you just go for it. Any moron could have told you that.

If you think your guy can get the ball back with 51 seconds to drive down the field in under a minute for the score, then you should also believe your guy can get you a 4th and 10 from your own 40.

That was as dumb as it gets, and the team, again, wasn't prepared to do enough at the end of the game after they did'nt do enough during it.

I want a coach who can bench Dak. This team would have beaten the 9ers with Cooper Rush. No doubt in my mind. The 9ers have Dak's number.

To the questiion, yes I fire McCarthy due to lack of post-season preparation.

 

[Stash]

- Was McCarthy in a position having to deal with Rodgers in GB, to be able to adjust his offense from pass to run ?

- McCarthy had to deal with QB Aaron Rodgers- who has proven time and time again, that he can be a very difficult jerk to have to work
and play for- feuded and beefed with two different HCs now.

- Whereas Payton did not have to be concerned with bump head riffs with Brees. – but McCarthy did with Rodgers.

So one guy was able to be an actual head coach and the other wasn’t?

Got it.

 

[Pass2Run]

- Was McCarthy in a position having to deal with Rodgers in GB, to be able to adjust his offense from pass to run ?

- McCarthy had to deal with QB Aaron Rodgers- who has proven time and time again, that he can be a very difficult jerk to have to work
and play for- feuded and beefed with two different HCs now.

- Whereas Payton did not have to be concerned with bump head riffs with Brees. – but McCarthy did with Rodgers.

The more I think about it, the more I think Payton is the Xs and Os guy that we need.

 

[lukin2006]

No this game is not on McCarthy.

He punted the ball with less than 3 minutes remaining, and the San Fran running game was doing quite well at that point...MM is a fraud.

 

[Gemini Dolly]

Not yet. Fire the OC first.
Get his own OC.

 

[Pass2Run]

So one guy was able to be an actual head coach and the other wasn’t?

Got it.

Well, one is more of like a father figure type who talks in generalities but doesn't add anything in-game that is specific to what's happening on the field. He gets guys lined up and they go out there, but he's not calling any shots half of us couldn't call.

A so-called leader of men...not a coach, per se.

 

[lukin2006]

All the problems with inconsistency and turnovers were never addressed. MM just shrugged off the turnovers and inconsistent play...This team looked terrible going into the playoffs...we one in Tampa because Tampa is a terrible football team.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

He punted the ball with less than 3 minutes remaining, and the San Fran running game was doing quite well at that point...MM is a fraud.

Yes but to me it never should have came down to that. If Dak gives even slightly above average QB play, then the game could have been out of reach from the Niners by the 4th quarter.

 

[john van brocklin]

Hire Payton ?

Hire Quinn ?

Has MM gotten us to his ceiling ?

Jerry kept Garrett for 10 years.
You expect him to do something bold ?

 

[XXLMike]

Jerry kept Garrett for 10 years.
You expect him to do something bold ?

If he truly covets Sean Payton here it is.

 

[Pass2Run]

fire the offensive coordinator or hope he goes to the panthers or where ever he wants his play calling is not for a championship team when a qb in the last round out plays you there is something terribly wrong but most people already know this. 1S hamburger mike said no more penalities and that was a lie and his whole approach to this season was to not have any input so what was he doing visiting whataburger every day and Dak couldn't lead this team if his life depended on it. now you know there are gonna be 1 million excuses for this performance of all the coachs and players by jerry and his little assistant little jerry but all of them have a certain smell to them so as i have said before see you at the next draft

It wasn't the playcalling. Moore had this nitwit overachieving.

 

[Pass2Run]

He will own the offense, won't say he doesn't know the offense after 4 years like Mike

And own the decisions..and at least have a spine.

9ers have good coaches as well.

 

[kevm3]

Quinn saved McCarthy's bacon. Once Quinn came in, we had the makings of a very formidable defense. if McCarthy is here, you have to retain Quinn and change out Kellen Moore.

 

[Pass2Run]

I was crucified in another thread for saying MM sucks. While at the end of the day he didn’t drop the INT, he didn’t miss the FG. However, he can be directly responsible for not developing Dak from continued bad habits. At some point the player is ultimately linked to the failures of the team and the HC is linked to the player that is underperforming. MM has won how many playoff games as a HC over the last decade? At least Dallas won a very critical area of the game again just like last years game vs SF, the penalties battle. Oh wait, that’s a bad thing and that’s another thing linked directly to the coaching staff.

The problem is that, it's not that Dak can't make reads, he can, when it's there. But he's a slow processor, overall, and easily made to second guess himsel, so he's prone to mental mistakes. Those are usually caused by emotion, which is why I say he's a slow processor.

He tried to put the team on his shoulders when he didn't need to. All Dak had to do was drive the bus. And he wasn't put in the rigbt situations that matched the gameplan. McCarthy isn't activelt involved in anything on gameday.

Yes, they had two and a half more days to prepare, and then the flights, so make it 3, but our QB is the one who looked like a 7th round rookie.

 

[XXLMike]

Jerry must be sick to his stomach that MM went 13-5 …

His plan was to hope MM and his team missed the post season .
He handcuffed MM with horrific trades and missed UFA signings and dollar store pickups .

Now sitting there is his prized target - pudgy Sean Payton .

JJ would be scorched across the league for firing MM off back to back double digits wins.

 

[IrishAnto]

Hire Payton ?

Hire Quinn ?

Has MM gotten us to his ceiling ?

Yep! we need to move on to the 7th HC since 1995, and then the 8th, 9th....
Change the GM for one in danger of loosing this job if he doesn't do a good enough job and you might see some significant change.
Until then...

 

[quickccc]

So one guy was able to be an actual head coach and the other wasn’t?

Got it.

The irony of it ? ... is this lighting striking twice where McCarthy hasn't been able to be the actual HC with two different NFL teams ?

 

[Stash]

The irony of it ? ... is this lighting striking twice where McCarthy hasn't been able to be the actual HC with two different NFL teams ?

Maybe he just doesn’t have it in him?