Do you have faith in Jerry

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Somewhat confident. Honestly, I don't blame JJ for our recent shortcomings b/c he's done what he's supposed to do as a GM/president: he's brought in (via the draft & F/A) good players & coaches...it's not his fault that they haven't gotten it done on the field. To use a Parcells euphenism...he just purchases the groceries, it's up to the chefs to cook up a good meal!
 

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theogt;2621857 said:
I judge a GM on two things, hiring smart coaches and bringing in talent. His decisions have been sound in that regard in the recent past. They may not have all worked out, but at the time they were almost all sound decisions. And that's how you have to judge a decision -- not in hindsight, but with the information you have at the time it's made.


:lmao2: You thought Phillips was a sound hire! I saw disaster coming with him a mile away, and yes that was before Jethro hired him! Phillips really didn't have any information in his corner other than being a decent D-Cordinator. He's always been mediocre at best as a HC. Dallas really needed a solid HC and not a D-Cordinator playing HC.
 

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I'm losing confidence by the day at the moment. But all it takes is a couple of shrewd moves to restore all of my confidence and then some.
 

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Royal Laegotti;2623123 said:
He's always been mediocre at best as a HC. Dallas really needed a solid HC and not a D-Cordinator playing HC.

As if Wade wasn't average or soft enough as a HC, Jerry went a step further and treated him like another of his glorified coordinators. With Jerry hiring assistants for him, even before he was brought here, that just neutered him even more.

It was bad in the 5-11 years. But to have Jerry step back and hire BP and see the team get turned in the right direction, only to have Jerry fully take over a few years later and revert to his pre-Parcells ways is nauseating.

It did look like BP took this team about as far as he could. But facts are he had us back in the hunt and headed in the right direction. The wise thing to do was continue on that same course with another strong HC with full authority over the team and staff and a solid scouting dept.

The last thing that should've happened was reverting back to the method that helped lead to the 5-11 years in the first place. It is absolutely mindboggling. But Jerry's ego is so huge he couldn't wait to get full control back and return to the same failed methods of the past.
 

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Doomsday;2622497 said:
Wow only 17 percent of the people have any confidence in Jerry Jones.

Too bad he doesnt read this site, it would be nice if he got the message that us fans have no faith in him or the direction he has taken this team.


Weird I see 69% with some confidence in him, either full, somewhat or losing confidence in him
 

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Wade wasn't the problem. Neither was Garrett. When adversity struck and the locker room was divided, it all became a problem. That's what happens when you have a divided coaching staff, a divided team, and an owner who is trying too hard to do too much.
 

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Complete confidence:
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Somewhat confidence
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I usually have very good confidence in Jerry. However, with letting Reeves get away, I'm on the downside for right now. Yesterday would have been a different answer. Next week may be also. And most people probably feel this way today.

Even if it had nothing to do with Jerry, and is all on Reeves, it's the perception that people will form their opinion. Usually something I refrain from doing. But not this time.
 

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Bach;2623167 said:
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You are entitled to you opinion don't think for a second that you know it all and the rest of us are out of touch. This team is not 5-11 this team with Jones has brought in talent even after BP left. Dallas turned around and in my view had a very good draft so talent is getting better in Dallas and Jerry is a big part of that. This team did fail this past season I take away no blame on any of them from Jerry to Wade, Jason and the players but I do think this team and this organization can and will turn this around. If you don't fine you have your views and opinions
 

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Doomsday101;2623175 said:
You are entitled to you opinion don't think for a second that you know it all and the rest of us are out of touch.

You kind of confirmed this with your "complete confidence" vote, not that you aren't entitled to that opinion.
 

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Bach;2623142 said:
As if Wade wasn't average or soft enough as a HC, Jerry went a step further and treated him like another of his glorified coordinators. With Jerry hiring assistants for him, even before he was brought here, that just neutered him even more.

It was bad in the 5-11 years. But to have Jerry step back and hire BP and see the team get turned in the right direction, only to have Jerry fully take over a few years later and revert to his pre-Parcells ways is nauseating.

It did look like BP took this team about as far as he could. But facts are he had us back in the hunt and headed in the right direction. The wise thing to do was continue on that same course with another strong HC with full authority over the team and staff and a solid scouting dept.

The last thing that should've happened was reverting back to the method that helped lead to the 5-11 years in the first place. It is absolutely mindboggling. But Jerry's ego is so huge he couldn't wait to get full control back and return to the same failed methods of the past.

I think the only reason Jethro hired Parcells was to turn public support for his stadium. It wasn't going to happen with Campo and 5-11 seasons, they had to start winning to gain the support and Jethro played it masterfully that he had "changed" his ways. Even I bought into that, for a couple years. Isn't it ironic that now he has his new stadium that things are looking like those 5-11 years again, or atleast that kind of disorganization going on with the team. Since Jimmy, hiring Bill was his lone hiccup in his long line of Jethro maddness and I think it was all a scheme! Maybe I'm going overboard and thinking that conspiracy theory type stuff, but he is a billionaire oil man ya know.;) :)
 

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theogt;2621857 said:
I judge a GM on two things, hiring smart coaches and bringing in talent. His decisions have been sound in that regard in the recent past. They may not have all worked out, but at the time they were almost all sound decisions. And that's how you have to judge a decision -- not in hindsight, but with the information you have at the time it's made.

I thought you were on the "Garrett has no business being on our staff" bandwagon. Is that a recent decision Jerry made?
 

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I agree with what theogt said,

as far as gm, jerry jones is a pretty good general manager. He has hired in the last 7 years, some pretty good coaches. Now were they the right coaches? Yes and No!

Has Jerry brought in talented players and gambled on some players yes.

You saw the results of T O in 2007. Leading league in touchdowns, receptions, yardage etc, or at least close to those credentials.

Jerry's problem is this, when someone is against him or one of his ideals, Jerry Jones sinks in with teeth to prove his thought is right, sink or swim. Then, Jerry Jones listens to players that are playing more than he should. Coaches coach, players play, period.

Just like when Jerry Jones played with Jimmy Johnson at college and won some big time games, jerry jones played, the coaches coached.

I am sure that jerry jones remembers those hot summer afternoons, practices, etc. Remember Jerry how you worked, sweated, and practiced, well those dallas cowboys players have to practice that same way, maybe even harder. I am sure, Jerry can remember sometimes, gee, if i just could talk to the coach and let him go easy on is in practices. But I doubt that jerry jones ever did that.

Now as to Brad Johnson, more and more, I feel that is what wade phillips talked jerry jones into keeping brad. As one person pointed out, Garrett said brad johnson wouldnt be only adequate, not great, and he got put down for it.

Just like when felix jones was playing before he got hurt, people were asking for felix to return kickoffs, but wade said, gee, i dont know, i dont like to play rookies or first year players, but when austin got hurt, wade got pushed into playing felix and we saw the results of felix on kickoffs, he was great.

Next, when asked about choice playing more, again good ole wade said, gee, he just isnt ready. But we all saw the results of choice playing good when he did play. Now its up to the running back coach, the head coach, the offensive coordiantor to get those players ready. Thats their job.

Yet, when the head coach gives extra days off to players, that takes away from practice time. Now, Jerry Jones is to blame to a degree for allowing that to happen. But that also falls on the head coach too.

Till basically good ole wade is pushed into doing something, he is lax, and laid back, reserve, then when his back is against the wall, he steps up. I am sure all of you remember after the Commander game in dallas, everything is ok, dont worry. Yet, we tried to warn wade, even us fans did.

Now after the lousy year last year, good ole wade, says, changes need to be made, and yes, we got beat in some games in all aspects, offense, defense, special teams and coaches. Well, gee good ole wade, when are you going to get off of your lazy fat rear end and really do the job you were hired to do.

You have taken a proud franchise good ole wade, with multi talented players, and turned them into a laid back reserve team like you are, your to blame for this and jerry jones, this lays at your door too.

Quit the darn glitz and glamour stuff and get back to smash mouth slobber knocker football. And enough of the players saying we are professionals, you gave them that chance, and you saw the results, now work them as well as the coaches.
 

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You lay the foundation of the team in OTAs, offsesoning conditioning and training camp. How you work those players in that time frame, will tell how they will play during the season.

Nothing is ever given to anyone, they have to work for it, even more in pro football. And that only comes from work, sweat, film study, desire, intensity and heart. Glitz-glamour-star on your helmet wont win you ball games, PERIOD!
 

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Iago33;2623356 said:
I thought you were on the "Garrett has no business being on our staff" bandwagon. Is that a recent decision Jerry made?
Thanks for bringing this up. It's a great example of what I'm talking about. I was actually against Garrett at the time -- at least in terms of him replacing Sparano as the playcaller. But that doesn't mean it wasn't a sound decision at the time. Damn near everyone thought he was a genius. Was everyone wrong about him? Yes, but was it somehow not a sound decision to bring in a young, intelligent coordinator?

You get the point.
 

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Bach;2623180 said:
You kind of confirmed this with your "complete confidence" vote, not that you aren't entitled to that opinion.

Yes I have confidence this team will do much better and will be in the race next year. I don't dismiss the 9-7 season we are coming off of and understand there is a lot of work this team needs to do and some hard choices to make to improve I also do not dismiss the 13-3 season knowing full well this team has the ability to go out and produce. I don't predict SB's never have but I do think this team will be a contending team for the title.
 

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Doomsday101;2623450 said:
Yes I have confidence this team will do much better and will be in the race next year. I don't dismiss the 9-7 season we are coming off of and understand there is a lot of work this team needs to do and some hard choices to make to improve I also do not dismiss the 13-3 season knowing full well this team has the ability to go out and produce. I don't predict SB's never have but I do think this team will be a contending team for the title.


Wow ....... you sound like a fan who is not obsessed with an agenda ....

Shame on you.
 

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BigDFan5;2623143 said:
Weird I see 69% with some confidence in him, either full, somewhat or losing confidence in him
I guess in a "glass is half full of $hit" kind of perpective...

Only a real sycophant could look at those poll results and spin them as a 2/3 vote of confidence. The Iraqi Information Minister would be proud.
 
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