Do you want the Cowboys to sign Dak Prescott to another long term deal?

[TheSport78]

How in the world are you going to bring in a QB that will guarantee you a one-win season?? And you are going to use Andrew Luck as a "typical" first round draft pick QB?? Go back and take a look at the last 20 or so first round QBs - and see what the percentage of those teams then made the second round of the playoffs with that same QB. I'll hang up and listen. Good grief.....you guys are freaking clueless.

You must be having a bad day to call another human being on the internet "clueless." Why so much hostility?

 

[Blitzen]

You don’t know what you’re talking about in regards to this situation.

LOL!!!! Two parties go to a table to negotiate a deal. Each side presents their case, but neither side likes the other side’s deal enough to complete the deal. Trying to decide which of the two parties had more leverage after no deal is silly kid stuff. Neither side had enough leverage to complete the deal. What do I not understand?

 

[CowboyFrog]

Oh, so your success is SOLELY based on Super Bowl championships. Got it. Ask Marino and other great QBs how easy it is to win a ring.

My success isnt even in this equation, how are NFL GM's judged? GM A goes to the owner with a plan to tank and Draft a QB...how does that owner judge the GM's plans success? And again why would you not use the Colts getting Manning as the example your looking for...

 

[TheSport78]

My success isnt even in this equation, how are NFL GM's judged? GM A goes to the owner with a plan to tank and Draft a QB...how does that owner judge the GM's plans success? And again why would you not use the Colts getting Manning as the example your looking for...

My point was, I would chalk up one bad season if it meant having a chance at grabbing a franchise, rare player in the top 5 picks.

 

[cowboysfan99]

No is my answer, but I voted do not care because it really doesn't matter. This team is cursed.

 

[CowboyFrog]

LOL!!!! Two parties go to a table to negotiate a deal. Each side presents their case, but neither side likes the other side’s deal enough to complete the deal. Trying to decide which of the two parties had more leverage after no deal is silly kid stuff. Neither side had enough leverage to complete the deal. What do I not understand?

I dont know Blitz you can lose in a negotiation also...at its simplest base think of it this way:
your a chef who wants to cook an omelette for a cooking competition so you go to the local market to get some eggs, the market has 3 eggs only and you dont want to pay the full price so you ask for a discount...the market says NO because they have another chef coming later that evening who will pay the price..you decide to go wtih a lesser plan B meal and lose the cooking competition...just because you opted for a lesser product doesnt mean the market didn't have leverage...

 

[CowboyFrog]

My point was, I would chalk up one bad season if it meant having a chance at grabbing a franchise, rare player in the top 5 picks.

what makes a player rare? thats needs to be defined here for that scenario to work..correct?

 

[TheSport78]

what makes a player rare? thats needs to be defined here for that scenario to work..correct?

I would say a scouting report encouraging enough to consider him being your QB for multiple contracts. I'd trust the scouts and not listen to Jerry.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I would say a scouting report encouraging enough to consider him being your QB for multiple contracts. I'd trust the scouts and not listen to Jerry.

Right but at some point the plan is judged by results, thats all im saying.

 

[5Stars]

You must be having a bad day to call another human being on the internet "clueless." Why so much hostility?

That how kids are now days.

 

[KJJ]

LOL!!!! Two parties go to a table to negotiate a deal. Each side presents their case, but neither side likes the other side’s deal enough to complete the deal. Trying to decide which of the two parties had more leverage after no deal is silly kid stuff. Neither side had enough leverage to complete the deal. What do I not understand?

If anyone doesn’t understand something, it’s you. The Cowboys need Dak more than he needs them. Dak is the one holding up the deal because he has all the leverage. If the Cowboys don’t meet his demands, he’ll walk in free agency and some team will. If you can’t comprehend that, we’re just wasting our time.

 

[TheSport78]

Right but at some point the plan is judged by results, thats all im saying.

I get that, and to me at least, the plan with Dak has been determined a long time ago. I'm just ready for a change and something fresh. I understand it's always a risk making a change at QB, but to me I've had a big enough sample size to know that Prescott will only take you so far.

 

[5Stars]

I get that, and to me at least, the plan with Dak has been determined a long time ago. I'm just ready for a change and something fresh. I understand it's always a risk making a change at QB, but to me I've had a big enough sample size to know that Prescott will only take you so far.

Jerry even said the same thing. We go as far as Prescott takes us, and that as far as we went.

He is sick of the loser like tons of fans, only his lonely fans want him around.

Dak made JJ cry in front of millions, he must really love him.

 

[Wangchung83]

Oh, so your success is SOLELY based on Super Bowl championships. Got it. Ask Marino and other great QBs how easy it is to win a ring.

Super Bowl who’s talking Super Bowl, just sniff a conference championship when it’s within your grasp one time.lol. He played horrible and has played horrible in every playoff game he’s been in.

 

[TheSport78]

Super Bowl who’s talking Super Bowl, just sniff a conference championship when it’s within your grasp one time.lol. He played horrible and has played horrible in every playoff game he’s been in.

I want Dak out, trust me, but he played very well against a bad Bucs team. A bad team for sure, but he still played possibly his best Cowboy game ever.

 

[tyke1doe]

I think Dak is a good quarterback like I think Cousins is a good quarterback. But they're not winning it without massive talent surrounding them and a coach who can give them an advantage in the post-season.
I don't see that on the horizon based on salary cap constraints and an owner who moonlights as a GM and coach.
But ... franchise quarterbacks come around every so often. As Parcells said once, "They don't grow on trees."
I mean, who was the last great quarterback in Washington, Philly, NY Giants, NY Jets, Detroit, Chicago, Minnesota, Atlanta, Carolina, Tampa Bay (no, not Brady), Arizona, Cleveland, San Diego, Las Vegas, Tennessee
It's hhhhhard to find franchise quarterbacks.
I think Dak has his serious limitations, that show up in the post-season. But he's likely the "best" we're going to see for a while. I'm against us signing him to a break-the-bank, long-term contract, but I also don't have confidence that we're going to find anyone better for the foreseeable future.
Shrug.

 

[Blitzen]

If anyone doesn’t understand something, it’s you. The Cowboys need Dak more than he needs them. Dak is the one holding up the deal because he has all the leverage. If the Cowboys don’t meet his demands, he’ll walk in free agency and some team will. If you can’t comprehend that, we’re just wasting our time.

Hahahaha!! You keep bringing up the example of Dak can walk. If neither side can accomplish the deal-BOTH parties walk. Whether he gets another deal with another team holds no sway in leverage with the Cowboys if they never agree to terms. You keep trying to make this false narrative that Dak is master of the universe in this negotiation. If the Cowboys capitulate-you may have a point (after looking at terms). But a deal must be struck between parties to accurately view leverage between the two parties.

 

[Blitzen]

I dont know Blitz you can lose in a negotiation also...at its simplest base think of it this way:
your a chef who wants to cook an omelette for a cooking competition so you go to the local market to get some eggs, the market has 3 eggs only and you dont want to pay the full price so you ask for a discount...the market says NO because they have another chef coming later that evening who will pay the price..you decide to go wtih a lesser plan B meal and lose the cooking competition...just because you opted for a lesser product doesnt mean the market didn't have leverage...

If no deal comes out of negotiation-neither party had enough leverage for it to mean anything for that deal at the time. No matter what happens after the fact.

 

[KJJ]

Hahahaha!! You keep bringing up the example of Dak can walk. If neither side can accomplish the deal-BOTH parties walk. Whether he gets another deal with another team holds no sway in leverage with the Cowboys if they never agree to terms. You keep trying to make this false narrative that Dak is master of the universe in this negotiation. If the Cowboys capitulate-you may have a point (after looking at terms). But a deal must be struck between parties to accurately view leverage between the two parties.

You still don’t get it. If they can’t accomplish the deal, where are the Cowboys going to walk to? They’re going to be staggering around trying to figure out who’s going to be their starting QB in 2025. While Dak will be even richer than he is right now on a new team that probably is more committed to winning. It’s going to be a win for him and a big loss for the Cowboys.

 

[Vtwin]

Now ....... Spin away

Ask and you shall receive.

I do find it funny the same people who bring up Dak struggling in the playoffs are the ones spinning Lance sucking in the preseason. Mind boggling.