Does Jeremiah know what he's talking about? Claims Romo or Garappolo headed to Bears

[JPostSam]

Since 2013, when the temp is below 40°
70 of 103 734 yd 10 td 1 int 116.7

you'd think he grew up in wisconsin and played college ball in illinois or something.

 

[Sydla]

You can't trade him now the trading period doesn't start until March. I suggest you start doing some research before posting.

Actually you can make a trade. It just doesn't become official until the first day of the league year. But you can essentially agree to terms of a trade right now.

And this really doesn't refute my comments.

When Dallas restructured Frederick and Smith, the benefit of cutting Romo prior to the start of the league year went away. They don't need his $5.1MM in saved cap space now to get under the cap.

That was the point of the article you linked. If the Cowboys wanted to use Romo's contract savings to get under the cap by the eve of the new league year, they would have to cut him. But they are now under the cap therefore they don't need to cut him now.

 

[KJJ]

The article you linked explains it quite well.

Did you even read the article you linked? They don't need to cut Romo now because THEY ARE NOW UNDER THE CAP.

Your own article states that cutting Romo would help them get under the cap and if they didn't, they'd have to restructure contracts.

Which they did.

I'm aware they don't need to cut Romo now but I'm asking you why is there a recent article with Romo expecting to be cut?

 

[KJJ]

Actually you can make a trade. It just doesn't become official until the first day of the league year. But you can essentially agree to terms of a trade right now.

And this really doesn't refute my comments.

When Dallas restructured Frederick and Smith, the benefit of cutting Romo prior to the start of the league year went away. They don't need his $5.1MM in saved cap space now to get under the cap.

Provide a link that explains it and let's see if you got every little detail down. You're obviously reading this information somewhere so it shouldn't be difficult to provide a link.

 

[KJJ]

Actually you can make a trade. It just doesn't become official until the first day of the league year. But you can essentially agree to terms of a trade right now.

That would be the last thing we would want to do because the best chance to get a good deal for Romo is on draft day. That's when teams are in a wheeling, dealing mood. Romo could be used to improve our draft position and help us land an elite player. Offering Romo and our #1 in exchange for another teams #1 higher in the draft could really help us. I would take that over a mealy draft pick. The only catch there is Romo would likely have to agree to the trade.

 

[Sydla]

I'm aware they don't need to cut Romo now but I'm asking you why is there a recent article with Romo expecting to be cut?

Maybe the article is wrong?

And did you see a quote from Romo in the article?

Maybe the Cowboys got an early impression no one would offer up a trade and were just assuming Dallas would have to cut him.

You are clinging to one random article with no quote from Romo or any real source and somehow suggesting that proves your point.

 

[Sydla]

That would be the last thing we would want to do because the best chance to get a good deal for Romo is on draft day. That's when teams are in a wheeling, dealing mood. Romo could be used to improve our draft position and help us land an elite player. Offering Romo and our #1 in exchange for another teams #1 higher in the draft could really help us. I would take that over a mealy draft pick. The only catch there is Romo would likely have to agree to the trade.

I don't disagree with this at all. Just pointing out if they had a good deal in place they could agree to it now. It just wouldn't become official until March.

 

[Sydla]

Provide a link that explains it and let's see if you got every little detail down. You're obviously reading this information somewhere so it shouldn't be difficult to provide a link.

I read the article you linked, for example.

 

[Nightman]

I'm aware they don't need to cut Romo now but I'm asking you why is there a recent article with Romo expecting to be cut?

Here is a great in-depth article....notice how he uses cut/trade interchangeably in his graphics

DAL saves 5.1m with a cut or trade before June 1st and 10.7m after June 1st(if after, the cap space can't be used until June 2nd)

http://overthecap.com/looking-cowboys-options-tony-romo/

Trading Romo

A trade of Romo works the same as a cut with the cap ramifications being based on the date of the trade. Odds are any trade of Romo would occur in March. Trading Romo makes more sense than cutting him and Romo should be able to bring back a good package of draft picks.


Tony might expect his release based on his relationship with Jerry but it would still be a mistake putting Tony above the team, especially since he wants to beat us to the SB once he leaves

 

[TheCount]

If you're not just about a QB away from contending, Tony doesn't make much sense. But there are 3-4 teams at least in that group (DEN, HOU, KC, AZ) and another 2-3 that need a QB and a great offseason to make a run.

For reference, the $14MM for Romo for 2017 would put him tied for thirteenth in the league for QB spending. I'd say that's a value given there aren't 13 QBs better than Tony ahead of him. The fact that that number could be potentially brought down in a restructure is gravy.

I guess we'll see what happens.

My point wasn't that Romo is untradeable, my point was that his cap number severely limits the number of suitors.

It's easier to say give up 14m and draft picks when it's someone else's money and draft picks. If the roles were reversed, and the Cowboys were looking to spend picks on an aging, oft-injured vet with a high salary, I don't think you have thread after thread arguing that the same move is a good value for the Cowboys.

We aren't talking about Peyton here, who didn't require picks and had a Superbowl ring. No one is looking at Romo and saying, he's done it before, he can do it again for us.

They are saying, he's a pretty good QB but is he worth the resources and can we trust him?

 

[Nightman]

I guess we'll see what happens.

My point wasn't that Romo is untradeable, my point was that his cap number severely limits the number of suitors.

It's easier to say give up 14m and draft picks when it's someone else's money and draft picks. If the roles were reversed, and the Cowboys were looking to spend picks on an aging, oft-injured vet with a high salary, I don't think you have thread after thread arguing that the same move is a good value for the Cowboys.

We aren't talking about Peyton here, who didn't require picks and had a Superbowl ring. No one is looking at Romo and saying, he's done it before, he can do it again for us.

They are saying, he's a pretty good QB but is he worth the resources and can we trust him?

14m is nothing for a QB........Fitzpatrick is the worst QB in the league and got 12m last year

Any team trading for him will have a window to renegotiate and they can restructure his 14m down to 5.5m cap hit at worst

 

[KLJ]

14m is nothing for a QB........

i never understood this idea that romo has some huge cap hit for any team trading for him. if a team is willing to trade for romo, they obviously think he will be their starting qb. a starting qb at $14m is a bargain. if anything, i think is salary is a plus in dallas's favor.

 

[AbeBeta]

You might get nothing for him anyway. And some here are suggesting he should be cut anyway, which gets you nothing, as a favor to him so he can sign wherever.

So instead of getting nothing anyway, you want to get nothing and treat a guy like crap.

I think that says a lot about you

 

[JoeKing]

He has a lot of say. Jerry will be sure of it and all Romo has to do is leak retirement to the press or refuse to rework his contract and it will kill any trade talk.

Romo isn't a jackwagon like that. Jerry and his FO have the only say. Romo has no say at all. Jerry will make the best business decision he can for the Cowboys and Romo knows it's not personal, it's a business.

 

[Sydla]

So instead of getting nothing anyway, you want to get nothing and treat a guy like crap.

I think that says a lot about you

This isn't rocket science. If you get something in return you trade him. If you don't you cut him. If I get a 4th or 5th round pick for him, that's not nothing. The fact you guys sit there with a straight face and try to argue otherwise is some of the funniest stuff I've read in awhile.

And LOL at the melodramatic comment that you'd be treating him like crap.

 

[Nightman]

This isn't rocket science. If you get something in return you trade him. If you don't you cut him. If I get a 4th or 5th round pick for him, that's not nothing. The fact you guys sit there with a straight face and try to argue otherwise is some of the funniest stuff I've read in awhile.

And LOL at the melodramatic comment that you'd be treating him like crap.

As if the idea of trying to win the Super Bowl with someone else isn't an affront to us and JJones

In fact let's make it easier on his new team by allowing them to keep all their picks.......maybe you can draft John Ross to go with him at WR or OJ Howard at TE on us

 

[KJJ]

Maybe the article is wrong?

And did you see a quote from Romo in the article?

Maybe the Cowboys got an early impression no one would offer up a trade and were just assuming Dallas would have to cut him.

You are clinging to one random article with no quote from Romo or any real source and somehow suggesting that proves your point.

I'm not clinging to one article there's a lot articles and chatter out there from insiders and most seem to think Romo will be released. If we can't get a trade done by draft day then the only way to get a decent trade offer after that is to hang onto Romo until preseason hoping someone loses their QB. We could end up having to keep him and that's not going to benefit our cap situation the next 2 seasons. The Texans had the #1 defense so my offer to them if they want Romo is to give me a defensive player that can start. A player for player swap would be fine, provided I get a player that can help my defense.

 

[AsthmaField]

Did IQ's drop sharply while I was away?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

That would be the last thing we would want to do because the best chance to get a good deal for Romo is on draft day. That's when teams are in a wheeling, dealing mood. Romo could be used to improve our draft position and help us land an elite player. Offering Romo and our #1 in exchange for another teams #1 higher in the draft could really help us. I would take that over a mealy draft pick. The only catch there is Romo would likely have to agree to the trade.

Trading Romo on draft Dat is unlikely because whoever trades for him will want to have already reworked and agreed to a new contract in principle. Good luck getting that done in the mere minutes teams are on the clock.

Also I disagree in principle. If rather have a mid round draft pick and our first round we rather than have moved up a few spots in the first. Give me more bullets in the draft. People overestimate the ability for teams to precisely judge talent to the point that trading up is worth it.

 

[TheCount]

14m is nothing for a QB........Fitzpatrick is the worst QB in the league and got 12m last year

Any team trading for him will have a window to renegotiate and they can restructure his 14m down to 5.5m cap hit at worst

So 14m is nothing but 12m is something?