Does Jeremiah know what he's talking about? Claims Romo or Garappolo headed to Bears

[Sydla]

I'm not clinging to one article there's a lot articles and chatter out there from insiders and most seem to think Romo will be released. If we can't get a trade done by draft day then the only way to get a decent trade offer after that is to hang onto Romo until preseason hoping someone loses their QB. We could end up having to keep him and that's not going to benefit our cap situation the next 2 seasons. The Texans had the #1 defense so my offer to them if they want Romo is to give me a defensive player that can start. A player for player swap would be fine, provided I get a player that can help my defense.

I honestly have no idea what they will do. Because I don't know their motivations............. maybe they want to spread the cap out over two years and make him a June 1?

All I know is that if they can make a trade and get something for him but instead just cut him because they want to be nice to him, that's a mistake.

 

[cowboy_ron]

We all know that Belichick usually unloads players at their highest value, so, why wouldn't he unload Brady to the Browns for about two full drafts and keep JG.

 

[Sydla]

Uh wut?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I just said one was a recent article it was posted on the board a few days ago. There's a lot of things being posted and unless there's a link to credible information it will be disregarded. You just made a comment that the Cowboys could gain a 4th round compensatory pick for releasing Romo when that wasn't true. You can't gain a comp pick for releasing a player, it's for a player you've lost in for in free agency.

No. I never said that the Cowboys would get a 4th rd pick. I said that I thought they had a good chance of getting better then a 5th in compensation and after that, I acknowledged that that may not be accurate, after another poster pointed out that the Cowboys would not be eligible for compensation. However, I do wonder if a player asks for a release and it is granted, if a team gets compensation for that? It's not as if the player is actually being cut. So, all said and done, I acknowledged that my thought of compensation may not be accurate. So, did you just stop reading in that thread or what?

Recent article, "a few days old" is no longer accurate. You should follow suit and acknowledge that you too are in error. The Cowboys, as we all know now, have restructured contracts and created cap room.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

There's far too many arrows pointing in the direction of that not happening.

Based on what, recent articles? None of us know any more then the next guy, which is why I said, "for all we know". Point being, it is ridiculous, as I said yesterday to you, to act as if any one of us knows more then the other. None of us know what the deal is with Romo except those on the team and Tony.

I will say this again, not that I should have to, but I will. I, personally believe that Tony will get released, based on his request. There are lot of reasons why this is not the best move for the team and very few as to why it is beneficial, IMO, but that's what I believe Jerry will do.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It is the closest NFL city to where he grew up, but it's not exactly a team that's a QB away from a championship.

If it did happen, Romo would instantly become the best Chicago QB since Sid Luckman. That's mind-boggling.

Sad but true. You could make a case for McMahon but to me, Tony is better. McMahon was the exact right QB for that team but he was not really what I would call an all time great. Tony would be on that all time list if he were able to have some skins on the wall, so to speak. JMO

Really astute point on the Chicago QB thing Percy.

 

[KJJ]

Trading Romo on draft Dat is unlikely because whoever trades for him will want to have already reworked and agreed to a new contract in principle. Good luck getting that done in the mere minutes teams are on the clock.

Also I disagree in principle. If rather have a mid round draft pick and our first round we rather than have moved up a few spots in the first. Give me more bullets in the draft. People overestimate the ability for teams to precisely judge talent to the point that trading up is worth it.

That's one of the many issues we face trying to trade Romo which is why it's more likely he'll be released but there has been talk about trying to lower his contract. We still have a couple of months before the draft and something could be done with his contract making it easier for another team to take it on or someone might be willing to take it on as is. Teams are in a wheeling, dealing mood on draft day and with no top QBs in this draft, that may be our best chance to get something of value for Romo.

Houston, Denver, Buffalo and Chicago are all picking ahead of us and although I don't see Buffalo or Chicago giving up their high draft position for Romo there's a possibly Houston or Denver might be tempted. Houston is only 3 spots ahead of us so I would need a draft pick or a defensive player along with an exchange of draft positions. Teams start filling some holes in free agency and complete the process on draft day so if we get past the draft and Romo is still here it's not very likely we'll be able to work out a trade for him.

 

[JoeKing]

That's one of the many issues we face trying to trade Romo which is why it's more likely he'll be released but there has been talk about trying to lower his contract. We still have a couple of months before the draft and something could be done with his contract making it easier for another team to take it on or someone might be willing to take it on as is. Teams are in a wheeling, dealing mood on draft day and with no top QBs in this draft, that may be our best chance to get something of value for Romo.

Houston, Denver, Buffalo and Chicago are all picking ahead of us and although I don't see Buffalo or Chicago giving up their high draft position for Romo there's a possibly Houston or Denver might be tempted. Houston is only 3 spots ahead of us so I would need a draft pick or a defensive player along with an exchange of draft positions. Teams start filling some holes in free agency and complete the process on draft day so if we get past the draft and Romo is still here it's not very likely we'll be able to work out a trade for him.

IMO, he's not getting released. If he is still on the Cowboy's roster after the draft, we can most likely look forward to him competing with Dak for the starting role.

 

[KJJ]

IMO, he's not getting released. If he is still on the Cowboy's roster after the draft, we can most likely look forward to him competing with Dak for the starting role.

Your insistence that Romo will be here competing with Dak this summer in training camp will have you eating another big plate of crow.

 

[JoeKing]

Your insistence that Romo will be here competing with Dak this summer in training camp will have you eating another big plate of crow.

I'm okay with that but it is what I think will happen. IMO, it's more plausible than Jerry releasing him and allowing his value to be wasted.

 

[KJJ]

Based on what, recent articles? None of us know any more then the next guy, which is why I said, "for all we know". Point being, it is ridiculous, as I said yesterday to you, to act as if any one of us knows more then the other. None of us know what the deal is with Romo except those on the team and Tony.

I will say this again, not that I should have to, but I will. I, personally believe that Tony will get released, based on his request. There are lot of reasons why this is not the best move for the team and very few as to why it is beneficial, IMO, but that's what I believe Jerry will do.

Based on every NFL insider close to the situation and not a single one of them has Romo returning to the Cowboys. It's based on Romo's salary which is far too much for him to be a backup and it's based on him not wanting to be a backup. He was forced to relinquish his starting job during this past season and you could see the disappointment in his face and you could hear it in his voice. The Cowboys were moving on from him that very day. He's not going to want to waste what little is left in his career being a backup when he's still better than half the starting QBs in the league.

There's several teams he can start for next season which is why he won't be back with the Cowboys. It doesn't take much logic to see that every arrow is pointing to Romo not being back with the team next season. Me and you argued about him at the end of the 2012 season with you insisting we wouldn't be able to re-sign him because his cap number would be too high. Do you remember that? I told you there's all kinds of ways to massage the cap and that Romo would be re-signed and to BOOK IT! I told you 4 years ago that the Cowboys won't be moving on from Romo until they have a QB in place that's equal to him or better....bingo!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think there is a good chance

IMO, he's not getting released. If he is still on the Cowboy's roster after the draft, we can most likely look forward to him competing with Dak for the starting role.

I would not be surprised either eay, to tell you the truth MrTS. I actually think there is a very good chance that something will happen with Tony, after the combine. Once teams get a good look at the QBs coming out and make evaluations on how they project and what their realistic chances are of landing one of them, I suspect teams will start focusing on the FA QBs available to them. If Tony really wants to leave, that would be a logical time for it to happen. After the Draft is also possible but I think Tony, if it's up to him, might want to get this done sooner rather then later. I suspect that Tony will want to give himself every chance to come in ready to win the starting job. The sooner he figures out where he's playing, the sooner he can begin those preparations.

On the other hand, if he is healthy, he is still the best QB on the team. That's a Tony/Jerry thing and I don't care who says what, nobody knows the deal there. Anybody who says they do, outside of those two, is flat lying and that's the truth.

JMO

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Based on every NFL insider close to the situation and not a single one of them has Romo returning to the Cowboys. It's based on Romo's salary which is far too much for him to be a backup and it's based on him not wanting to be a backup. He was forced to relinquish his starting job during this past season and you could see the disappointment in his face and you could hear it in his voice. The Cowboys were moving on from him that very day. He's not going to want to waste what little is left in his career being a backup when he's still better than half the starting QBs in the league.

There's several teams he can start for next season which is why he won't be back with the Cowboys. It doesn't take much logic to see that every arrow is pointing to Romo not being back with the team next season. Me and you argued about him at the end of the 2012 season with you insisting we wouldn't be able to re-sign him because his cap number would be too high. Do you remember that? I told you there's all kinds of ways to massage the cap and that Romo would be re-signed and to BOOK IT! I told you 4 years ago that the Cowboys won't be moving on from Romo until they have a QB in place that's equal to him or better....bingo!

You didn't say that. You said that the contract would not be an issue for the team and that he would play until he was 40. None of that is turning out to be true but whatever.

Bottom line, he may be released or he may be traded or he may stick. Nobody knows. None of those insiders know one way or the other. Heck, none of them saw Dak as the starter or the answer but they are going to know this? Believe that if you wish but don't expect anybody else to believe they know anything more then anybody else.

They've proven that they don't know crap where Tony and Jerry are concerned.

 

[KJJ]

I'm okay with that but it is what I think will happen. IMO, it's more plausible than Jerry releasing him and allowing his value to be wasted.

What you think will happen never happens, your track record speaks for itself. This situation is similar to the Aikman situation in 2000. Aikman couldn't stay healthy and was due a lot of money and Jerry had a tough decision to make and decided to move on from Aikman despite not having a QB behind him. Romo's situation is based on injury concerns and money as well because Romo is making too much money to be a backup. This time around we're in a MUCH better situation than in 2000 because we have a solid young QB who just led us to a 13-3 season and has a bright future. This makes the decision to move on from Romo a lot easier than the decision Jerry had to make in 2000.

 

[JoeKing]

I think there is a good chance


I would not be surprised either eay, to tell you the truth MrTS. I actually think there is a very good chance that something will happen with Tony, after the combine. Once teams get a good look at the QBs coming out and make evaluations on how they project and what their realistic chances are of landing one of them, I suspect teams will start focusing on the FA QBs available to them. If Tony really wants to leave, that would be a logical time for it to happen. After the Draft is also possible but I think Tony, if it's up to him, might want to get this done sooner rather then later. I suspect that Tony will want to give himself every chance to come in ready to win the starting job. The sooner he figures out where he's playing, the sooner he can begin those preparations.

On the other hand, if he is healthy, he is still the best QB on the team. That's a Tony/Jerry thing and I don't care who says what, nobody knows the deal there. Anybody who says they do, outside of those two, is flat lying and that's the truth.

JMO

Solid insight there IMO. If Tony is being traded I see it happening after the combine until the draft. Otherwise, it will get very interesting in Dallas.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

That's one of the many issues we face trying to trade Romo which is why it's more likely he'll be released but there has been talk about trying to lower his contract. We still have a couple of months before the draft and something could be done with his contract making it easier for another team to take it on or someone might be willing to take it on as is. Teams are in a wheeling, dealing mood on draft day and with no top QBs in this draft, that may be our best chance to get something of value for Romo.

Houston, Denver, Buffalo and Chicago are all picking ahead of us and although I don't see Buffalo or Chicago giving up their high draft position for Romo there's a possibly Houston or Denver might be tempted. Houston is only 3 spots ahead of us so I would need a draft pick or a defensive player along with an exchange of draft positions. Teams start filling some holes in free agency and complete the process on draft day so if we get past the draft and Romo is still here it's not very likely we'll be able to work out a trade for him.

Again. Any team who wants Romo will have had to enter negotiations with his agent long before a trade is consummated. And since he's under contract with the Cowboys we'd have to give permission. So draft day is extremely unlikelt the point where suddenly a team would make an offer.

It is most likely this happens before the draft or not at all.

Also I'd rather get a 3rd and keep 28 than move up 3 spots and get a 5th as well.

 

[KJJ]

You didn't say that. You said that the contract would not be an issue for the team and that he would play until he was 40. None of that is turning out to be true but whatever.

I never said that Romo would play until he's 40 and the contract wasn't an issue because he was re-signed something you said wouldn't be possible. You were so insistent that he couldn't be re-signed due to our cap that you wanted me to figure out how we could possibly re-sign him and keep him under the cap. lol You were worried it would cost us several players trying to re-sign him. Here's the thread we argued in.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/would-you-trade-romo-for-the-1-pick.250692/page-14

 

[KJJ]

Again. Any team who wants Romo will have had to enter negotiations with his agent long before a trade is consummated. And since he's under contract with the Cowboys we'd have to give permission. So draft day is extremely unlikelt the point where suddenly a team would make an offer.

It is most likely this happens before the draft or not at all.

Also I'd rather get a 3rd and keep 28 than move up 3 spots and get a 5th as well.

The Cowboys are looking to trade Romo so obviously they would give permission to negotiate. I'm already on record saying he'll most likely be released than traded. I would rather move up 3 spots and get a defensive player, something the Texans could afford to give up with them having the #1 defense last season. They're getting a player who can play and I want a player who's also proven. A draft pick is a roll of the dice whether it be a 3rd or a 5th.

 

[JoeKing]

What you think will happen never happens, your track record speaks for itself. This situation is similar to the Aikman situation in 2000. Aikman couldn't stay healthy and was due a lot of money and Jerry had a tough decision to make and decided to move on from Aikman despite not having a QB behind him. Romo's situation is based on injury concerns and money as well because Romo is making too much money to be a backup. This time around we're in a MUCH better situation than in 2000 because we have a solid young QB who just led us to a 13-3 season and has a bright future. This makes the decision to move on from Romo a lot easier than the decision Jerry had to make in 2000.

I have the cojones to put what I think about future events in writing and you don't. It's as simple as that. I am right as often as anyone else which is never 100%. You like to harp on the times I have been wrong like you have stock invested in it. It's actually kind of stalker type creepy. Maybe you think the way you keep up with me should be flattering but it's not. It's actually quit alarming.

 

[KJJ]

I honestly have no idea what they will do. Because I don't know their motivations............. maybe they want to spread the cap out over two years and make him a June 1?

All I know is that if they can make a trade and get something for him but instead just cut him because they want to be nice to him, that's a mistake.

Appears Jerry is going to do what's best for Romo in this situation.