Does Jeremiah know what he's talking about? Claims Romo or Garappolo headed to Bears

[Kaiser]

You're dreaming, but I like it!

Those kind of things never come together but I'm sticking with my prediction that the return for Romo will be higher than most people here think.

Also this draft is deep and the kind of pile up more picks in later rounds, for a ton of reasons it makes more sense to trade Romo for a pick in 2017 and a conditional pick in 2018.

 

[Stash]

Giving Romo to Houston via a trade is a lot different than him ending up there on his own. If you can't see that, that's your problem.

And if you can't see that trading him anywhere, for anything is a better move than a release and getting nothing while he goes wherever he wants , then "that's your problem". And maybe intelligent conversation and debate just isn't your thing?

If he ends in Houston on his own by working out a deal with the Texans after being released that's different than Jerry arranging for him to play in Houston via a trade.

Yeah, in one scenario, the Cowboys get something in the deal. In the other, they only screw themselves. This fact seems to continue to elude you.

Romo is going to end up playing for another team next season whether it be a trade or him being released. We have a deadline we have to meet if we're going to get any cap relief so if we can't trade Romo he has to be released by June 1-2.

Good thing it's only February then. Whew!

Someone should take your "replay" feature away.

No worries then, I never had a "replay" feature.

 

[KJJ]

Passer rating correlates with winning. For example, from 2007-12 when Schaub had a 93.3 passer rating, his teams were 46-36. If you "examine his entire career," it leaves you with the impression that Schaub would be a great FA addition.

Since then, he's only started 10 games, has a passer rating of 71.3, and his teams are 3-7.

That's why it's misleading to examine the entire career. Because what somebody did 5 years ago makes no difference. Nobody cares what Romo did in cold weather in 2012 or earlier.

We've been though all that.

 

[percyhoward]

No offense, because I really do appreciate your posts and their wealth of info...but it's sort of misleading to say "since 2013" when referring to a player who didn't play at all in 2016 (minus a pointless week 17 game) and missed basically all of 2015 due to injury.

I think that if teams have to go back to 2012 to find a bad cold-weather game, it's safe to conclude that they aren't worried about cold weather being an issue with Romo. Age, injury history, absolutely.

 

[Stash]

Those kind of things never come together but I'm sticking with my prediction that the return for Romo will be higher than most people here think.

As long as it's better than the absolutely nothing but looking like fools that some of these clowns are talking about? I'm good with it.

Also this draft is deep and the kind of pile up more picks in later rounds, for a ton of reasons it makes more sense to trade Romo for a pick in 2017 and a conditional pick in 2018.

I'll take whatever I can get, as long as it's more than nothing and the team looking like fools.

 

[KJJ]

And if you can't see that trading him anywhere, for anything is a better move than a release and getting nothing while he goes wherever he wants , then "that's your problem". And maybe intelligent conversation and debate just isn't your thing?




Yeah, in one scenario, the Cowboys get something in the deal. In the other, they only screw themselves. This fact seems to continue to elude you.



Good thing it's only February then. Whew!



No worries then, I never had a "replay" feature.

I've been saying all along I would love to trade him but if we can't trade we have to release him for all the reasons that have been posted. Try reading my posts instead of giving your own take but if you did that you wouldn't have anything to argue about. lol Keep twisting things to fit your agenda.

 

[Stash]

Passer rating correlates with winning. For example, from 2007-12 when Schaub had a 93.3 passer rating, his teams were 46-36. If you "examine his entire career," it leaves you with the impression that Schaub would be a great FA addition.

Since then, he's only started 10 games, has a passer rating of 71.3, and his teams are 3-7.

That's why it's misleading to examine the entire career. Because what somebody did 5 years ago makes no difference. Nobody cares what Romo did in cold weather in 2012 or earlier.

I'd like to know the statute of limitations on that?

Fans are quick to go back years when it suits them, but are resistant when it doesn't. Going back to 2014 for Romo is fine. 2015? Not so much.

Conversely, they want to go back several years to "above average" Doug Free, but not so much the guy who was among the worst in sacks and pressures allowed in 2016.

It's terribly confusing.

 

[Stash]

I've been saying all along I would love to trade him but if we can't trade we have to release him for all the reasons that have been posted. Try reading my posts instead of giving your own take but if you did that you wouldn't have anything to argue about. lol Keep twisting things to fit your agenda.

I am "reading your posts". Maybe you're the one who isn't?

Jerry won't trade him to Houston because that would be making a deal with Houston that could comeback on Jerry if Romo were to lead the Texans to the SB. Jerry doesn't want the Texans being the king of Texas. If Romo is released and ends up in Houston, it's "oh well" because nothing can be done about that it's not like Jerry arranged it via a trade for Romo to be there. If a trade isn't worked out for Romo, he'll be released and will be free to sign with whatever team wants him. If it happens to be the Texans nothing Jerry can do about because Romo can't be kept for several reasons.

That's you, isn't it? Or was your account hacked?

 

[Sydla]

Giving Romo to Houston via a trade is a lot different than him ending up there on his own. If you can't see that, that's your problem. If he ends in Houston on his own by working out a deal with the Texans after being released that's different than Jerry arranging for him to play in Houston via a trade. Romo is going to end up playing for another team next season whether it be a trade or him being released. We have a deadline we have to meet if we're going to get any cap relief so if we can't trade Romo he has to be released by June 1-2. Someone should take your "replay" feature away.

Yeah it is a lot different. Letting him walk for nothing to Houston is a hell of a lot worse for the franchise than trading him there.

 

[KJJ]

He's not wrong.

If the Texans had a fair deal on the table for Romo and it was better than any other offer on the table from other teams, and Jones turned it down because he's afraid fans might be upset that he traded Romo to them and they might win a SB, then that might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen from Jones.

Like, let's say the Texans offer their 2nd rounder this year and a 3rd rounder next year and that was the best deal on the table. Turning it down to take a lower deal or worse, just cut him, would be beyond idiotic.

I don't believe the Texans would offer us a fair deal because they're on the hook for $16M next year with Osweiler and they would have to also take on Romo's contract. Their best option to signing Romo would be as a free agent to try and work out a deal with him. It's asking a lot for the Texans to cough up a draft pick or picks attractive enough for Jerry to make a trade and then have to take on Romo's contract along with the $16M Osweiler is guaranteed.

There's no way the Texans would offer us a #2 this year and a #3 next year with the guaranteed money they're on the hook for with Osweiler, knowing they can't look past the 2017 season with Romo due to his age and injury concerns. That's too much of an investment for a 37 year old QB that might not last the first half of the 2017 season and has to be released after the season.

 

[Sydla]

I've been saying all along I would love to trade him but if we can't trade we have to release him for all the reasons that have been posted. Try reading my posts instead of giving your own take but if you did that you wouldn't have anything to argue about. lol Keep twisting things to fit your agenda.

You literally just contradicted yourself. So now you want to trade him but a page back you are talking about how we can't trade him to Houston, that it would be better for Jones if he just signed there as a FA.

LOL. Wut?

 

[Sydla]

I don't believe the Texans would offer us a fair deal because they're on the hook for $16M next year with Osweiler and they would have to also take on Romo's contract. Their best option to signing Romo would be as a free agent to try and work out a deal with him. It's asking a lot for the Texans to cough up a draft pick or picks attractive enough for Jerry to make a trade and then have to take on Romo's contract along with the $16M Osweiler is guaranteed.

There's no way the Texans would offer us a #2 this year and a #3 next year with the guaranteed money they're on the hook for with Osweiler, knowing they can't look past the 2017 season with Romo due to his age and injury concerns. That's too much of an investment for a 37 year old QB that might not last the first half of the 2017 season and has to be released after the season.

Doesn't matter what the hell you think the Texans would or would not give up.

It's a simple concept. If the Texans have the best trade on the table for Romo, you make the trade. It's just that simple. You don't take a lower deal or just cut him. You take the Texans deal.

 

[KJJ]

I am "reading your posts". Maybe you're the one who isn't?



That's you, isn't it? Or was your account hacked?

That's me, you just can't comprehend what I'm saying or you're just looking for an argument.

 

[Stash]

I don't believe the Texans would offer us a fair deal because they're on the hook for $16M next year with Osweiler and they would have to also take on Romo's contract. Their best option to signing Romo would be as a free agent to try and work out a deal with him. It's asking a lot for the Texans to cough up a draft pick or picks attractive enough for Jerry to make a trade and then have to take on Romo's contract along with the $16M Osweiler is guaranteed.

There's no way the Texans would offer us a #2 this year and a #3 next year with the guaranteed money they're on the hook for with Osweiler, knowing they can't look past the 2017 season with Romo due to his age and injury concerns. That's too much of an investment for a 37 year old QB that might not last the first half of the 2017 season and has to be released after the season.

But that's not what you actually said, is it?

Jerry won't trade him to Houston because that would be making a deal with Houston that could comeback on Jerry if Romo were to lead the Texans to the SB. Jerry doesn't want the Texans being the king of Texas. If Romo is released and ends up in Houston, it's "oh well" because nothing can be done about that it's not like Jerry arranged it via a trade for Romo to be there. If a trade isn't worked out for Romo, he'll be released and will be free to sign with whatever team wants him. If it happens to be the Texans nothing Jerry can do about because Romo can't be kept for several reasons.

You said "Jerry won't" , and now it's "no way the Texans would". And yet you accuse other people or "arguing for the sake of arguing"? You're all over the place here, like a fish flopping around out of water. No rhyme, reason, or point to argue, just the desire to try to do so. Again, check yourself.

 

[Stash]

You literally just contradicted yourself. So now you want to trade him but a page back you are talking about how we can't trade him to Houston, that it would be better for Jones if he just signed there as a FA.

LOL. Wut?

And everybody can see it except the guy who typed it.

 

[jrumann59]

If it's a trade, Tony doesn't really have much of a say. I'm going to miss him like hell regardless of what happens in the coming months

He has all the power he opt to retire.

 

[Stash]

He has all the power he opt to retire.

Just pay the team back the $5 million you owe on your way out the door!

 

[KJJ]

Yeah it is a lot different. Letting him walk for nothing to Houston is a hell of a lot worse for the franchise than trading him there.

Jerry isn't going to make a "deal" that might come back on the team. If SF would have released Charles Haley in 92 and not traded him to Dallas, what eventually happened would have been a lot easier for SF to deal with and Carmen Policy said the very same thing in an interview years ago. It was the fact he made a "deal" to send Haley to Dallas that bothered him. If you release a player and they work out a deal with another team, that's a lot easier to live with than making a deal for them that sends them to a particular team.

 

[Stash]

Jerry isn't going to make a "deal" that might come back on the team. If SF would have released Charles Haley in 92 and not traded him to Dallas, what eventually happened would have been a lot easier for SF to deal with and Carmen Policy said the very same thing in an interview years ago. It was the fact he made a "deal" to send Haley to Dallas that bothered him.

Show us where Carmen Policy said that it would have been a wiser move to cut Haley for nothing and let him sign with whoever he wanted. Show us that part of this equation.

 

[DallasEast]