Does Newman signing mean boot for RW?

[the kid 05]

Per this thread's premise...Terence Newman.

i was just going to ask since when did Newman switch from a corner to a strong safety

 

[Hostile]

i was just going to ask since when did Newman switch from a corner to a strong safety

From what I gather...yesterday.

 

[peplaw06]

crap like this is whyhttp://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118977 I can't stand this guy!

Can't stand this guy??

Wasn't your screenname BigBadRoy at one point or something to that effect??

That little quote where Roy insulted the "fans" who were fickle whiners must have hit really close to home for you.

 

[utrunner07]

With Newman now signed and with a host of really solid corners in camp, does this open the door for the Cowboys to boot RW to the curb after this season. Pacman's deal is etched in incentives to keep him here a few years and Jenkins is a 1st rounder that should be here at least 5 years.

Of course Henry is the wild card but he still has led the team in ints the last few years and is still a very good football player. If we sign Hamlin to a deal and move him to his natural position of SS, can we then move Henry to FS and BOOT RW to the curve.

Sorry if this is another bash RW thread but the deal makes sense.

PLEASE CAN WE BAN ALL RW THREADS FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS?????

 

[the kid 05]

From what I gather...yesterday.

ahh thanks for the update Hos, crap now were back at square one with corner! 2 rookies, 1 "thug", and 1 fragile vet...damn it

 

[JonJon]

I'm not "in vogue" with bashing Roy but do agree with many that his play is detrimentally below par, and therefore, his criticism is warranted.

Having said that, the Safety position in the NFL has been changing to be more coverage-focused, therefore the CB and S positions in the NFL do have more to do with one another in recent years. Part of Roy Williams’ decline can be explained by the leagues declining use of the "running offense using a FB position" to more uses of the "backfield H-back", "2-TE sets" and "3 or 4 WR sets" offensive formations.

This shift has put in-the-box Safeties, like Roy Williams, less in demand in recent years, and coverage-safeties more in demand. Therefore secondary personnel who can cover will get more play than those who are best known for stopping the run. This can also explain why Dallas has focused more on the CB and FS positions recently (i.e. drafting "Spiderman", acquiring Hamlim, and trying to extend him, and now signing "Packman" and drafting 2 new corners), and has done hardly anything to address the SS position (i.e. letting backups like Keith Davis go without attempting to replace them with other similar options).

Also, I don’t think Roy’s position is in any jeopardy because of this because he does offer Dallas a competitive advantage on downs when opposing offenses are expected to run the ball. So maybe the shift in offensive philosophies, and the decline in Roy Williams’ coverage skills, can greatly justify the decline in his play, but to take the argument so far as to question his value on the roster is unwarranted because he does have strengths to contribute on a limited basis that can make-or-break a play, or a game for that matter.

Well said. In all the Roy Bashing and Roy Supporting threads I have read, this was probably the best description of Roy's current situation.

Maybe Roy can hang on long enough to survive the change in tides again when offenses load up on fullbacks to pound the skinny FS and CB's that are replacing SS like Roy. Then his value will go up again.

 

[zeromaster]

i gotta be honest.. i absolutely love this message board.. there are some fantastic fans on here.. some great knowledgable fans that truly bleed silver and blue.. and i find out the latest and best Cowboys news because of this site.. it's the best site on the internet if you're a Dallas Cowboys fan.. i used to post here all the time, but now i've become just a lurker.. but a lot of the guys and gals who've been around here for more than a year or two will remember me.. that being said, the reason i started posting less and less (besides the heartache of the Giants loss) was because it seems like EVERY single thread turns into a Roy bashing fest.. it's just ridiculous.. no matter what the topic is or what intention the original thread starter had or anything, at some point, it's gonna turn into bashing Roy.. yes, he is my favorite player so it's hard for me to read all the Roy bashing in the first place, but i used to be able to handle it.. but it's just gotten out of control, especially considering the fact that most of it is either untrue, unwarranted, taken out of context or overblown (thanks for keep fighting the good fight, Adam, Hostile, superpunk and a few others).. Roy's a great guy off the field, and a good player for us on the field.. he was elite at one point and i hope he gets back to that place for us, and i believe that Roy hopes for that too.. as it is, he is still an above average player for us that gets so much criticism from the fans and media alike that it's sickening.. the man wears the STAR and he is proud to wear the STAR.. he has given us some fantastic memories in the past.. so he had, by his standards, a down year, maybe a year and a half.. but he's still a heckuva player.. but some of you act like he's a bad person, a lazy person, and a horrible player.. which is so far from the truth it's laughable.. unfortunately, you guys (i know this isn't everyone, by the way) have ruined my love for posting on this site, at least for the time being.. i really look forward to the day, and i am very confident it will be early on this season, when Roy shuts you all up and i can come on here and enjoy posting and talking about my Boys again.. in the meantime, ill be lurking and shaking my head at most of the crap that you Roy bashers spew..

:starspin :starspin :starspin :starspin :starspin

Paragraphs are underrated.

 

[Idgit]

Can't stand this guy??

Wasn't your screenname BigBadRoy at one point or something to that effect??

That little quote where Roy insulted the "fans" who were fickle whiners must have hit really close to home for you.

Ouch.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

let me pose a question for the group. If Roy happens to get cut or is injured, who is our starting SS and what does that mean for the rest of the secondary?

They'll move Carp back there, it is his natural position (he and the Cowboys just don't know it yet).

 

[TheCount]

They'll move Carp back there, it is his natural position (he and the Cowboys just don't know it yet).

NOW we're onto something. :laugh2: