Does Randy Gregory even care?

[kskboys]

Apparently you didn’t get it. People that constantly use any drug are using it for a coping mechanism. We’ve become a society that is too pussified to handle day to day issues. If something doesn’t go right in many peoples’ lives, they just can’t handle it. They self medicate, act out in various ways, etc. Far too many people today have an entitled attitude and can’t handle any type of failure or setback. In other words, “the participation trophy generation”. It’s pathetic.

The weedhead wasn't able to comprehend simple concepts. Shocker.

 

[Sydla]

oh Lord Sydia lol...I told you. Its not complicated at all.

Your explanation made no sense. So yeah, it appears quite complicated for you.

If the team has taken the steps to insure themselves that they have quality DEs with Gregory out (they traded for Quinn) and Gregory won't take up a roster spot while he's working through his problem, why would you cut him?

There's no downside here. He won't steal a roster spot from someone. The Cowboys added more DEs in the offseason to where they have quality depth WITHOUT even factoring in Gregory.

So why cut him now?

Your whole argument seems to be based on this idea that the Cowboys are apparently holding a roster spot for him or counting on him to play for them in 2019. That's a false assumption.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Options.
A. Make millions
B. Hit the bong all day, every day .

Chose B .

 

[Rayman70]

why hasn't he applied for reinstatement by now? My understanding is he can. He still hitting the bong? See the problem with the undying faith in someone like him? It almost holds the team hostage..It sends a lax message to the team. IT JUST DOES.

 

[erod]

No, I don't think Irving really has mental issues, at least on the level of Gregory. Two, Gregory has at least sought out treatment and help and Irving never has. Instead, Irving decided to say screw you to the Cowboys and the league and blamed THEM for his problems. Gregory has never, ever done that. He's also taken responsibility for what he's done and blamed no one else.

Why do they need to cut Gregory loose? You have failed time and time again to lay out the argument for why cutting him is the best option.

Because it's not healthy to be constantly trying to prop up a sick man's career just because you need a little pressure off that right edge. It lingers within.

Suddenly, he shows up, and everybody has to step back into a different role. Then he's gone again. Rinse and repeat.

It's a yo-yo thing that Jerry's done for years and years. Constantly thinking he can rehabilitate everybody just because they managed to handle Charles Haley (who never would have made in today's social-media world).

Dimitrius Underwood. Alonzo Spellman. Jay Ratliff. Greg Hardy. Rolando McClain. Pacman Jones. Terrell Owens. David Irving. Randy Gregory.

These things just don't end well here. Ever.

Get him help. But put an end to his Cowboys career and move on.

 

[Sydla]

no...I'm saying we need to cut bait if he isn't getting his act together enough to help us now. I'm also saying, we better make a move if at all possible for some further depth at the position...preferably not a green rookie.

But why do they have to cut bait? He's not taking up a roster spot from anyone that can help at DE if he's working through his reinstatement?

I mean how are you not getting this? It's not hard.

The Cowboys ARE NOT COUNTING ON GREGORY TO BE A STARTING OR BACKUP DE FOR THEM IN 2019. They went out and added Quinn as insurance for Gregory because they knew there was a good chance Gregory wouldn't be around in 2019.

So the Cowboys now have a good depth chart at DE AND they can stash Gregory off to the side, see if he gets better and reinstated and if he does, they just got lucky an added a really, really talented pass rusher to their DL down the road.

 

[Sydla]

why hasn't he applied for reinstatement by now? My understanding is he can. He still hitting the bong? See the problem with the undying faith in someone like him? It almost holds the team hostage..It sends a lax message to the team. IT JUST DOES.

People have explained already in this thread the reasons why he may not have sought reinstatement yet.

You are letting personal feelings get in the way of any rational thought at this point.

 

[Rayman70]

Your explanation made no sense. So yeah, it appears quite complicated for you.

If the team has taken the steps to insure themselves that they have quality DEs with Gregory out (they traded for Quinn) and Gregory won't take up a roster spot while he's working through his problem, why would you cut him?

There's no downside here. He won't steal a roster spot from someone. The Cowboys added more DEs in the offseason to where they have quality depth WITHOUT even factoring in Gregory.

So why cut him now?

Your whole argument seems to be based on this idea that the Cowboys are apparently holding a roster spot for him or counting on him to play for them in 2019. That's a false assumption.

NO NO NO. Is he here? IS HE AVAILABLE? IS HE APPLYING FOR REINSTATEMENT AS OF YET? Do you feel warm and fuzzy about him playing this year? We should cut bait, find a vet on the street for depth until we know Quinn can be a full go week 1. How we suppose to have any depth when we cant even use him? ITS RUBBISH...ITS A CASE OF RIDICULOUS LOYALTY.

 

[Sydla]

Because it's not healthy to be constantly trying to prop up a sick man's career just because you need a little pressure off that right edge. It lingers within.

Then, suddenly he shows up, and everybody has to step back into a different role. Then he's gone again. Rinse and repeat.

It's a yo-yo thing that Jerry's done for years and years. Constantly thinking he can rehabilitate everybody just because they managed to handle Charles Haley (who never would have made in today's social-media world).

Dimitrius Underwood. Alonzo Spellman. Jay Ratliff. Greg Hardy. Rolando McClain. Pacman Jones. Terrell Owens. David Irving. Randy Gregory.

These things just don't end well here. Ever.

Get him help. But put an end to his Cowboys career and move on.

LOL. No one has to step into a different role. Gregory comes back and is a situational pass rusher, especially if Quinn is playing well. Are you arguing that having more than 1-2 pass rushers is a bad thing?

You sound bitter. And irrational.

 

[Rayman70]

Because it's not healthy to be constantly trying to prop up a sick man's career just because you need a little pressure off that right edge. It lingers within.

Suddenly, he shows up, and everybody has to step back into a different role. Then he's gone again. Rinse and repeat.

It's a yo-yo thing that Jerry's done for years and years. Constantly thinking he can rehabilitate everybody just because they managed to handle Charles Haley (who never would have made in today's social-media world).

Dimitrius Underwood. Alonzo Spellman. Jay Ratliff. Greg Hardy. Rolando McClain. Pacman Jones. Terrell Owens. David Irving. Randy Gregory.

These things just don't end well here. Ever.

Get him help. But put an end to his Cowboys career and move on.

thank you reasonable and logic using facts. AGREE

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

he cares plenty ...

 

[Sydla]

NO NO NO. Is he here? IS HE AVAILABLE? IS HE APPLYING FOR REINSTATEMENT AS OF YET? Do you feel warm and fuzzy about him playing this year? We should cut bait, find a vet on the street for depth until we know Quinn can be a full go week 1. How we suppose to have any depth when we cant even use him? ITS RUBBISH...ITS A CASE OF RIDICULOUS LOYALTY.

I have no idea if he will play or not in 2019.

I do know that if he can get reinstated, he likely can help the team as we saw last year.

The team has spent the offseason building depth at DE with the acquisitions of Hyder and Quinn and the drafting of Jackson. They aren't "counting" on Gregory at this point. He's a luxury at this point. He's stashed off to the side and if he never gets reinstated, no biggie, you've already built your DE depth chart. But if he does get reinstated, you just gave yourself the possibility of adding a really talented pass rusher.

Find a "vet" off the street for depth? Now you are just being ridiculous. Give me some names. Anyone you add now is a retread, a JAG, a backup to the backup.

They have 6 DEs on the roster right now not even counting Quinn - Lawrence, Jackson, Armstrong, Taco, Hyder, Crawford.............. Quinn's injury is minor and he should be back by Week 1. There is also nothing preventing them from adding another guy off the street at DE right now as they could cut one of their dozen WRs, for example. They also only typically carry 4-5 DEs on the 53 man roster anyway. So they have sufficient depth right now EVEN with Quinn being out until the start of the season.

 

[Rayman70]

HERE'S a thought..why don't we sign someone that we can MAYBE get some use out of and rid the team of bottom feeders? Randy has issues..He is likely a good guy..but in Pro ball, we need grown *** men that are available to play. We don't need to be holding hands and being a daycare center. Randy must choose and if he cannot, he,the agent, and Dallas need to cut bait and that may be the best thing for the man...

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

HERE'S a thought..why don't we sign someone that we can MAYBE get some use out of and rid the team of bottom feeders? Randy has issues..He is likely a good guy..but in Pro ball, we need grown *** men that are available to play. We don't need to be holding hands and being a daycare center. Randy must choose and if he cannot, he,the agent, and Dallas need to cut bait and that may be the best thing for the man...

 

[Rayman70]

after 20 plus years of misplaced faith and loyalty by the owner CLEARLY that thinking has infected the thought process of the fans...not all. Until that changes at the top, we wont be a championship team again...we will always fall just short.

 

[Sydla]

HERE'S a thought..why don't we sign someone that we can MAYBE get some use out of and rid the team of bottom feeders? Randy has issues..He is likely a good guy..but in Pro ball, we need grown *** men that are available to play. We don't need to be holding hands and being a daycare center. Randy must choose and if he cannot, he,the agent, and Dallas need to cut bait and that may be the best thing for the man...

Because the TEAM HAS SIGNED people that can play at DE. They signed Hyder. They traded for Quinn. They drafted Jackson when they weren't even intending on drafting a DE.

They have 8 guys who can play DE on the 90 man roster - Lawrence, Quinn, Hyder, Armstrong, Taco, Jackson, Jelks, Gregory. And that doesn't include Crawford who also can play DE. So that's 9 guys at DE. They typically carry 4-5 on the 53 man roster.

So this idea that they have to cut Gregory to bring in someone who can play right now is ridiculous. They have 8 guys beyond Gregory fighting for 4-5 DE spots on the 53 man roster.

 

[Sydla]

after 20 plus years of misplaced faith and loyalty by the owner CLEARLY that thinking has infected the thought process of the fans...not all. Until that changes at the top, we wont be a championship team again...we will always fall just short.

It's not about loyalty here.

It's about a very simple concept. Talent wins. Gregory has talent. If you can stash him off to the side and see if he can work his way back, while not sacrificing a roster spot on him (which the Cowboys aren't doing), then the smart move is let Gregory work his crap out on the side and see if you are lucky and he's able to come back in 2019.

The players like Gregory. The coaches seem to like him. He's not a locker room cancer type. I doubt many players are upset the team is trying to help him.

So where the downside? If he can't play, so what? The team has taken the steps to build a DE depth chart WITHOUT Gregory that is really good. So what's the problem? You have still failed to lay out how this negatively impacts the team.

 

[Number1]

anyone got facts on the CBA?

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

It's not about loyalty here.

..If you can stash him off to the side and see if he can work his way back, while not sacrificing a roster spot on him...

i see what you did there .

 

[Sydla]

i see what you did there .

I did it in an earlier post and no one caught it!