Does Romo go in the RoH?

[TrailBlazer]

Definitely not the HOF. He was never considered one of the top 3 by the National media. Lets face it, he was portrayed as a huge choker since seattle. He throw a ton of bad ill timed picks. That will hurt him whether it's true or not. Hes starting to shed that perception(dez caught it). Probably needs more postseason success to even make the ROH. He's been really good but not great. Last year is the first year since his first year starting that I would say he played at a top notch elite level game in and game out.

 

[Setackin]

Meredith didn't win a SB. And if Ware or Witten do not win rings with Cowboys, both still get in.

Tired of the BS Romo rules by so-called fans.

tired of ppl questioning other fans loyalty because of different opinion... we are a forum in the middle of the offseason that's about as loyal as u can get...

 

[Redball Express]

He has almost every cowboy QB record, championship or not he deserves to be there.

Is Don Meredith there?

If so..then yes..

Romo goes.

Meredith never won a World Title but he did more for the Franchise with both his play and post career celebrity than any other player besides Staubach.

Give me an amen, please?

There is no way Jerrah invests a Kings Ransom in Romo and doesn't eventually put him in the RofH.

Not possible.

They have over a decade already invested in him.

That's longer than Staubach or Troy Aikman.

It would make it more fitting if he had a ring going in..

but not necessary for the RofH.

HofF?

Yes.

RofH?

No.

 

[jobberone]

I agree Jobber. Don't you think it would be an improvement over the media based system? I certainly do.

Maybe but there will always be bias no matter who choses. 1/5 coaches, players, GMs and owners, and media, past and present, and metrics would be as fair as I know how.

 

[visionary]

No if no SB victory
Yes with a SB victory

 

[Section446]

Not without a ring, he gets a ring, he's in the HOF and the ROH.

 

[joseephuss]

They have over a decade already invested in him.

That's longer than Staubach or Troy Aikman.

Staubach was drafted in 1964. He started playing in 1969. He retired in 1979. I think that waiting period was part of the Cowboys investment in Roger, which spans 16 seasons. He started 114 games over 11 different seasons.

Troy was drafted in 1989. He retired in 2000. He started 165 games over 12 different seasons.

Tony signed as an UDFA in 2003. He started playing in 2006. He has started 123 games over 9 different seasons.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Eli gets in due to his name...MANNING, gauranteed. How many times do we have to see Manning Sr working behind the curtain for little boy Eli. Frankly Im sick of it and I always liked Archie as a qb. His 2 SB's will no doubt help, but as strictly a qb I think he has been pretty much mediocre his entire career.

I think Eli is a bit better then mediocre. I would not say he has been among the best that I have seen but I think that, like most QBs, when he has talent around him, he has been able to play pretty well. He has always had a propensity for pics but he has also come up really big in big moments. One, perhaps, is a byproduct of the other. I know that on this board, with regards to Tony, it has been discussed many, many times. Tony wants to win and because of that, he sometimes makes decisions that might not have been the best decisions in certain situations. On the other hand, he has made some really unbelievable plays that won us games as well. I think that Eli is the same in certain situations. As for Archie and what he has done for his boys, well, it's hard for me to fault him for this. I am a Father and I know that I would try to do whatever I could to help my kids if it were in my power. What parent would not?

 

[KJJ]

tired of ppl questioning other fans loyalty because of different opinion...

It's commonplace here due to this being a FAN board. It's unfortunate honest, unbiased opinions affect FANS so negatively here.

 

[KJJ]

Is Don Meredith there?

If so..then yes..

Romo goes.

Meredith never won a World Title but he did more for the Franchise with both his play and post career celebrity than any other player besides Staubach.

Meredith was the second player added to the ROH 39 years ago. He was added due to paving the wave for the Cowboys during their early years. The first success the team had was with him at QB. His post football celebrity also played a part in his addition to the ROH. He became a household name on Monday Night football and would give the Cowboys a lot of love. The Cowboys have won 4 championships since Meredith was added and 2 of the franchises QB's Staubach and Aikman have been inducted into the HOF. The success Staubach and Aikman had makes adding Romo to the ROH a tough sell with his current 2-4 playoff record. Danny White was 5-5 in the playoffs and 3 times he took the Cowboys deeper in the playoffs than Romo has. White broke several of Staubach's records due to the Cowboys passing more.

The only argument for putting Romo in the ROH is him holding most of the franchise passing records primarily due to playing in an offense and in a league that allowed him to do that. Most of the QB's today are breaking all the franchise passing records of their predecessors because it's a different game today. Yards. passer ratings and completion percentages are all up compared to QB's from 20 plus years ago due to rule changes that have opened up offenses. If Jerry wants to add Romo to the ROH fine but some Cowboy fans aren't going to be in favor of it if he never wins a championship.

 

[KJJ]

ROH would be a slam dunk. HOF, maybe not first ballot but it one certainly make an agrument he would belong.

Really don't see how anyone could make an argument for Romo in the HOF at this point in his career it would be an impossible sell to the committee. First of all 4 of Romo's peers Brady, Peyton Manning, Rodgers and Brees are locks for the HOF. Eli and Roethlisberger have outside shots at the HOF. You have at least 6 current QB's who've clearly had better careers than Romo. Currently Romo is 29th on the all-time passing list with 7 current QB's ranked ahead of him including Phillip Rivers. If both Romo and Rivers retired today Rivers would have a better chance at the HOF due to ranking higher on the all-time passing list and winning twice as many playoff games as Romo. Kurt Warner played in 3 SB's winning one of them and holds the top 3 passing yard games in the SB. He won a league MVP and a SB MVP and didn't make the HOF on the first ballot. Romo has ZERO chance at the HOF unless his playoff record improves and he wins multiple SB's.

 

[BAT]

tired of ppl questioning other fans loyalty because of different opinion... we are a forum in the middle of the offseason that's about as loyal as u can get...

Questioning your fan loyalty was out of line, my bad. But why the different criteria for Romo versus other players?

 

[KJJ]

Meredith didn't win a SB. And if Ware or Witten do not win rings with Cowboys, both still get in.

Tired of the BS Romo rules by so-called fans.

Meredith didn't win a SB but he did lead the Cowboys to a couple of conference championship games. He was the first good QB the Cowboys had and helped make the team a strong contender in an era that was being dominated by the mighty Green Bay Packers. The Cowboys gave Lombardi's teams all they could handle. Meredith was one of the pioneers and his post football celebrity helped bring a lot of attention to the Cowboys which is another reason why he was added to the ROH. The ROH was designed to honor the players of the past who helped pave the way to the Cowboys first championship. Ware and Witten may be added to the ROH without rings but the positions they play don't carry the weight the QB position does. No one is going to blame a TE or DE for a team not winning a championship. They can't influence the outcome of games like a QB and are not tagged with a W/L record.

No one blamed Dick Butkus for the Bears never making the playoffs while he was their MLB. QB's are looked at differently than any other position because they have so much control over a game especially today with all the passing teams do. Big games usually come down to them having to make a play it's been happening frequently in the SB the past few years. Franchises have been completely turned around due to a great QB. Romo plays under the same rules every player plays under but he's the face of the Cowboys franchise and the bar at the position was set high long before his arrival. The bar hadn't been set at the time Meredith arrived when he retired he was the standard.

 

[BAT]

Meredith didn't win a SB but he did lead the Cowboys to a couple of conference championship games. He was the first good QB the Cowboys had and helped make the team a strong contender in an era that was being dominated by the mighty Green Bay Packers. The Cowboys gave Lombardi's teams all they could handle. Meredith was one of the pioneers and his post football celebrity helped bring a lot of attention to the Cowboys which is another reason why he was added to the ROH. The ROH was designed to honor the players of the past who helped pave the way to the Cowboys first championship. Ware and Witten may be added to the ROH without rings but the positions they play don't carry the weight the QB position does. No one is going to blame a TE or DE for a team not winning a championship. They can't influence the outcome of games like a QB and are not tagged with a W/L record.

No one blamed Dick Butkus for the Bears never making the playoffs while he was their MLB. QB's are looked at differently than any other position because they have so much control over a game especially today with all the passing teams do. Big games usually come down to them having to make a play it's been happening frequently in the SB the past few years. Franchises have been completely turned around due to a great QB. Romo plays under the same rules every player plays under but he's the face of the Cowboys franchise and the bar at the position was set high long before his arrival. The bar hadn't been set at the time Meredith arrived when he retired he was the standard.

I want Romo to win a SB just as much as the next Cowboys' fanatic. Just like I wanted Meredith to win a SB. He didn't win one, ever. I never forgave him for that but I never begrudged him the ROH. Romo's story is yet to be completely told and was a reversal away from a Conference Championship, that said he has already accomplished quite a few franchise and league records already. The Lombardi is the cherry on the sundae. With his current accomplishments, Romo is a more than viable ROH candidate. More so than Charles Haley and just as deserving as Don Meredith.

 

[Redball Express]

Staubach was drafted in 1964. He started playing in 1969. He retired in 1979. I think that waiting period was part of the Cowboys investment in Roger, which spans 16 seasons. He started 114 games over 11 different seasons.

Troy was drafted in 1989. He retired in 2000. He started 165 games over 12 different seasons.

Tony signed as an UDFA in 2003. He started playing in 2006. He has started 123 games over 9 different seasons.

Meredith was the second player added to the ROH 39 years ago. He was added due to paving the wave for the Cowboys during their early years. The first success the team had was with him at QB. His post football celebrity also played a part in his addition to the ROH. He became a household name on Monday Night football and would give the Cowboys a lot of love. The Cowboys have won 4 championships since Meredith was added and 2 of the franchises QB's Staubach and Aikman have been inducted into the HOF. The success Staubach and Aikman had makes adding Romo to the ROH a tough sell with his current 2-4 playoff record. Danny White was 5-5 in the playoffs and 3 times he took the Cowboys deeper in the playoffs than Romo has. White broke several of Staubach's records due to the Cowboys passing more.

The only argument for putting Romo in the ROH is him holding most of the franchise passing records primarily due to playing in an offense and in a league that allowed him to do that. Most of the QB's today are breaking all the franchise passing records of their predecessors because it's a different game today. Yards. passer ratings and completion percentages are all up compared to QB's from 20 plus years ago due to rule changes that have opened up offenses. If Jerry wants to add Romo to the ROH fine but some Cowboy fans aren't going to be in favor of it if he never wins a championship.

Solid answer and you are actually saying some of the same THINGS for different reasons.

No problem there.

My overall line is that Jerrah has built the stadium, the Franchise and the team around Romo.

Even and expecially the OL we are all so happy about. And Dez and just keep adding names.

So it doesn't rest on WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS with Jones.

Snap crackle and pop count like the 12th man for Jerrah.

Romo is that.

 

[DWhite Fan]

Not arguing with you but Danny White was never the QB Romo is....and I watched every game they both played.

Wrong...

 

[KJJ]

I want Romo to win a SB just as much as the next Cowboys' fanatic. Just like I wanted Meredith to win a SB. He didn't win one, ever. I never forgave him for that but I never begrudged him the ROH. Romo's story is yet to be completely told and was a reversal away from a Conference Championship, that said he has already accomplished quite a few franchise and league records already. The Lombardi is the cherry on the sundae. With his current accomplishments, Romo is a more than viable ROH candidate. More so than Charles Haley and just as deserving as Don Meredith.

No one is going to begrudge Meredith being in the ROH due to not having a championship because he set the bar at QB for the Cowboys when he retired. Meredith, Morton, Staubach, White and Aikman all got the Cowboys farther in postseason than Romo has. I'm not in any way, shape or form attempting to hate on Romo he's been a very good QB but he would be a tough sell for some fans as a ROH inductee if he doesn't lead the Cowboys to a championship. As productive as he's been he hasn't done as much for the franchise as Meredith, Staubach or Aikman. He wasn't a pioneer who helped pave the way for the great teams the Cowboys had and the team hasn't sniffed a championship under him. Romo owns franchise records but no league records that I'm aware of. What league records are you talking about?

If you add Romo to the ROH it's a slap in the face to a QB like Danny White who won 5 playoff games and led the Cowboys to 3 straight NFC title games. I agree Romo is a more viable ROH candidate than Charles Haley who spent most of his career in SF and jumped on board an already great Cowboys team in 92. Haley could care less about the Cowboys he bleeds red and gold. Hope Jerry enjoyed the slap in the face Haley gave him with the announcement that Eddie DeBartolo will present him at the HOF.

 

[Redball Express]

Staubach was drafted in 1964. He started playing in 1969. He retired in 1979. I think that waiting period was part of the Cowboys investment in Roger, which spans 16 seasons. He started 114 games over 11 different seasons.

Troy was drafted in 1989. He retired in 2000. He started 165 games over 12 different seasons.

Tony signed as an UDFA in 2003. He started playing in 2006. He has started 123 games over 9 different seasons.

Understood.

So you look at the overall to decide.

Wise..Grasshopper.

So I too, shall take the wise path.

Romo isn't done yet.

Let's wait and get me some more popcorn while you are up.

I'll hit TiVo while we wait.

 

[KJJ]

Solid answer and you are actually saying some of the same THINGS for different reasons.

No problem there.

My overall line is that Jerrah has built the stadium, the Franchise and the team around Romo.

Even and expecially the OL we are all so happy about. And Dez and just keep adding names.

So it doesn't rest on WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS with Jones.

Snap crackle and pop count like the 12th man for Jerrah.

Romo is that.

All teams build around their QB's they do everything they can to make their highest investment and most important player successful. Jerry's done a lot to try and help Romo win a championship. World Championships carry a lot of weight with Jerry which is why he added Charles Haley who's disliked by many to the ROH.

 

[BAT]

No one is going to begrudge Meredith being in the ROH due to not having a championship because he set the bar at QB for the Cowboys when he retired. Meredith, Morton, Staubach, White and Aikman all got the Cowboys farther in postseason than Romo has. I'm not in any way, shape or form attempting to hate on Romo he's been a very good QB but he would be a tough sell for some fans as a ROH inductee if he doesn't lead the Cowboys to a championship. As productive as he's been he hasn't done as much for the franchise as Meredith, Staubach or Aikman. He wasn't a pioneer who helped pave the way for the great teams the Cowboys had and the team hasn't sniffed a championship under him. Romo owns franchise records but no league records that I'm aware of. What league records are you talking about?

If you add Romo to the ROH it's a slap in the face to a QB like Danny White who won 5 playoff games and led the Cowboys to 3 straight NFC title games. I agree Romo is a more viable ROH candidate than Charles Haley who spent most of his career in SF and jumped on board an already great Cowboys team in 92. Haley could care less about the Cowboys he bleeds red and gold. Hope Jerry enjoyed the slap in the face Haley gave him with the announcement that Eddie DeBartolo will present him at the HOF.

Surpassing the likes of Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Kurt Warner etc. Tony Romo now holds the records for most completions in 100 starts (2,276) and yards, (27,747).

Also is top 5 all time in passer rating and #1 in 4th quarter QB rating. Credit to CowgirlCas, from article below:

http://yourdailycowboysfootballfix....mo-sets-2-nfl-records-beasley-williams-shine/