Does Romo go in the RoH?

[KJJ]

Since 06 there is maybe a handful of qb's that I take over Romo, maybe. Which qb's since 06 do u think would have won SB's with the teams that Romo has been on? I'm really not coming up with any as imo they have all been very flawed teams, but as I said earlier that is finally starting to change with the turnaround last year.

I'm not about to speculate what QB's might have won SB's with the teams Romo has been on because it would cause a big stir that I don't have time for. Most SB winning teams are flawed the 2 championship teams Eli had were flawed. Had Romo's game not come apart the final month of the 07 season the possibilities for that team were endless. I'm certainly not putting all the blame on Romo but check his numbers and passer ratings the final few games of the 07 season and compare them to his Nov games....night and day! Romo had some meltdown issues his first few Decembers and you can't win critical Dec/Jan games with multiple turnovers. Prior to this past season he had 12 turnovers in his 6 elimination game losses. The Giants wouldn't have even sniffed the SB in 07 and 2011 had Eli continued turning the ball over at the rate he was.

He was dreadful in several games in 2007 which is why he ended up with 27 turnovers but in his 8 playoff wins that included 2 SB wins he only had 2 turnovers. Several things have hurt the Cowboys chances over the past few years from costly turnovers to poor defensive play to coaching mistakes. Things turned around last season due to the running game but with Murray gone we'll have to see if the turnaround continues. Losing Murray was a big loss to the offense and it leaves question marks. If the Cowboys can't run the football as efficiently duplicating and surpassing last season will be very difficult. Romo can't carry this team with his arm or the turnovers will start reappearing and the Cowboys won't be the same team we saw last season.

 

[5Stars]

He was dreadful in several games in 2007 which is why he ended up with 27 turnovers but in his 8 playoff wins that included 2 SB wins he only had 2 turnovers. Several things have hurt the Cowboys chances over the past few years from costly turnovers to poor defensive play to coaching mistakes. Things turned around last season but with Murray gone we'll have to see if the turnaround continues. Losing Murray was a big loss to the offense and it leaves question marks. If the Cowboys can't run the football as efficiently duplicating and surpassing last season will be very difficult. Romo can't carry this team with his arm or the turnovers will start reappearing and the Cowboys won't be the same team we saw last season.

That's probably what you are hoping for....

 

[DallasEast]

Eli gets in due to his name...MANNING, gauranteed. How many times do we have to see Manning Sr working behind the curtain for little boy Eli. Frankly Im sick of it and I always liked Archie as a qb. His 2 SB's will no doubt help, but as strictly a qb I think he has been pretty much mediocre his entire career.

I don't fault Archie for doing everything he can to have his boys enjoy every iota that the league can give them. He's experiencing the success he rightfully deserved through his sons. He played for crappy teams practically his entire career. Maybe it isn't an atypical feat but to this day it befuddles me how a quarterback can lead the NFL in completions and passing yards...

...and his team still finished with one win! Crazy. The guy should be in the Hall of Fame. He knows his own chances, so he's making sure his sons have rich professional lives and bright post-career achievements. Doing so probably fulfills his every waking day.

 

[jnday]

No, your age is showing with how stubborn and stuck you old guys can be in your viewpoints. I've watched more repeat of Staubach games than I can count on two hands. I've seen multiple games from him from every season that he has played in. The same with Aikman as well. "Leaders of men" you guys throw around stupid unquantifiable terms like that, that are only based upon the fact that their TEAMS won. Take Staubach/Aikman off their teams and replace him with Romo and they win the same amount of superbowls. The only thing Romo cannot compare with those two in is championships and that's simply because of the quality of teams he has been on. How many times have we seen a defender in the backfield as soon as the ball is hiked, Romo spins away breaks their ankles and releases a laser into his WR hands? How many times have we seen him thread the needle right over a corners hands? How many times have we seen him and his amazing game winning drives, including the ones that he didn't get because the defense promptly gave up a TD. There is no logic in saying that he can't compare to either of them if you are being objective and watching the strict play of the qb. This is the same line of logic that puts Trent Dilfer over Dan Marino simply because the former was on a supremely superior team than the latter. This isn't basketball. No matter how good your Qb by himself is, he can't beat an entire team.

You don't understand leadership. Roger's teammates have made the foment many times that they would follow him anywhere because they knew that he was going to win, especially in the last two minutes of the game. The running game took the pressure off of him because he has made some really bad plays over the years when he tried to take too much of the load upon himself. Like it or not, Romo has the reputation as with many fans and media members. This was because of the blow-ups that he had in high profile games. To Romo's credit, he is slowly changing the perception that many have of him. You are trying to compare Romo and his stats to great HOF QBs like Stabach , Aikman and even Marino. Tony has not had the impact on the NFL that these great QBs have had. As a fan , you are biased to a fault. Most fans are , so don't feel alone. The truth of the matter is that Romo is not thought of as a great QB and some people even doubt if he is elite. That is a legit concern, because Romo hasn't been a top five QB for much of his career like P. Manning, Brady and Rogers. As I stated before, the next two or three years could make a big difference in Romo's legacy. I hope he wins a couple Super Bowls myself. He could be a HOF inductee at that point . I think that Jerry will put him in the ROH. Jerry has forgotten players from the past that may deserve it more, and he likes to put his guys in the ROH. Romo is one of his guys for sure. By the way, I don't have to watch games from the Staubach and Aikman eras. I watched the games while they was happening and I saw the pure greatness of those QBs and their impact on the league. Danny White was underrated with fans because he followed Roger. Nobody could have stepped in and satisfied Cowboy fans. They wanted Roger. White was a very good QB himself . A quick look at his accomplishments shows that he was s very good QB and produced a lot of playoff wins, something that I hope Romo can do before he retires.

 

[gbrittain]

I would not want to put the cart in front of the horse but IF Romo were to win one Super Bowl he will make the Hall of Fame and the Ring of Honor. There is no way a QB with the second highest QB rating of all time along with a championship does not make it.

That covers the stat base and the championship base.

 

[rags747]

I don't fault Archie for doing everything he can to have his boys enjoy every iota that the league can give them. He's experiencing the success he rightfully deserved through his sons. He played for crappy teams practically his entire career. Maybe it isn't an atypical feat but to this day it befuddles me how a quarterback can lead the NFL in completions and passing yards...

...and his team still finished with one win! Crazy. The guy should be in the Hall of Fame. He knows his own chances, so he's making sure his sons have rich professional lives and bright post-career achievements. Doing so probably fulfills his every waking day.

Understood, but u never see his meddling with Peyton, only with Eli which tells me that Eli still needs a hand hold which obviously Peyton has learned to do without. If I remember correctly the Cowboys were hotter for Archie than Plunkett in that 70 draft, Gil Brandt particularly...I may be wrong here.

 

[jnday]

Eli plays in NY. He's going to get in because that east coast media will get him in. Tony really doesn't have that so it's going to be harder, IMO.

Any player from the Cowboys have a tougher time making the HOF due to so many members of the media that refuses to vote for a Cowboy player. It is no secret how certain media members feel and they are not going to change their ways.

 

[jnday]

Typical Cowboys' fan's brain (exactly like Einstein's far left)

Typical Giant's fan's brain

BTW trolling is frowned on.

I take it that the Eagle's fans just shows up as solid black.

 

[jnday]

I agree there are others who should go in first (ROH). As far as the HOF goes, there are QBs who never won the SB who are in. I guess we'll see. A couple of SBs for Tony would cement it IMO. I just don't think either are absolutely necessary.

I think the HOF selection process is a joke. First, the media is involved, second, some members have made it publicly known that they are anti-Cowboy. Third, the media is involved and did I mention the 4th and 5th reasons that it is a joke? It is due to the media being involved. Lol, I think the process should consist of former players and "football" men.

 

[jnday]

Would love to see Romo's late career take the same arc as Elway, 2 SB's would be so sweet for this team. We are getting there, but it may take just a little bit more.

That is what I am hoping for myself.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

That's probably what you are hoping for....

Probably?

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

I would not want to put the cart in front of the horse but IF Romo were to win one Super Bowl he will make the Hall of Fame and the Ring of Honor. There is no way a QB with the second highest QB rating of all time along with a championship does not make it.

That covers the stat base and the championship base.

So then, E-Lie would have to be a lock for the HOF since he has 2 rings.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

You don't understand leadership. Roger's teammates have made the foment many times that they would follow him anywhere because they knew that he was going to win, especially in the last two minutes of the game. The running game took the pressure off of him because he has made some really bad plays over the years when he tried to take too much of the load upon himself. Like it or not, Romo has the reputation as with many fans and media members. This was because of the blow-ups that he had in high profile games. To Romo's credit, he is slowly changing the perception that many have of him. You are trying to compare Romo and his stats to great HOF QBs like Stabach , Aikman and even Marino. Tony has not had the impact on the NFL that these great QBs have had. As a fan , you are biased to a fault. Most fans are , so don't feel alone. The truth of the matter is that Romo is not thought of as a great QB and some people even doubt if he is elite. That is a legit concern, because Romo hasn't been a top five QB for much of his career like P. Manning, Brady and Rogers. As I stated before, the next two or three years could make a big difference in Romo's legacy. I hope he wins a couple Super Bowls myself. He could be a HOF inductee at that point . I think that Jerry will put him in the ROH. Jerry has forgotten players from the past that may deserve it more, and he likes to put his guys in the ROH. Romo is one of his guys for sure. By the way, I don't have to watch games from the Staubach and Aikman eras. I watched the games while they was happening and I saw the pure greatness of those QBs and their impact on the league. Danny White was underrated with fans because he followed Roger. Nobody could have stepped in and satisfied Cowboy fans. They wanted Roger. White was a very good QB himself . A quick look at his accomplishments shows that he was s very good QB and produced a lot of playoff wins, something that I hope Romo can do before he retires.

Well stated!

 

[gbrittain]

So then, E-Lie would have to be a lock for the HOF since he has 2 rings.

Where did I say that?

 

[big dog cowboy]

I would not want to put the cart in front of the horse but IF Romo were to win one Super Bowl he will make the Hall of Fame and the Ring of Honor. There is no way a QB with the second highest QB rating of all time along with a championship does not make it.

That covers the stat base and the championship base.

ROH would be a slam dunk. HOF, maybe not first ballot but it one certainly make an agrument he would belong.

 

[BAT]

Not without a SB.

if it was all about records then the RoH would be filled with ppl

Meredith didn't win a SB. And if Ware or Witten do not win rings with Cowboys, both still get in.

Tired of the BS Romo rules by so-called fans.

 

[jnday]

I don't fault Archie for doing everything he can to have his boys enjoy every iota that the league can give them. He's experiencing the success he rightfully deserved through his sons. He played for crappy teams practically his entire career. Maybe it isn't an atypical feat but to this day it befuddles me how a quarterback can lead the NFL in completions and passing yards...

...and his team still finished with one win! Crazy. The guy should be in the Hall of Fame. He knows his own chances, so he's making sure his sons have rich professional lives and bright post-career achievements. Doing so probably fulfills his every waking day.

You are so right. Archie had the same level of talent that Roger did, but the owner was only worried about money. With Archie having a big fan base in MS and LA, the owner knew that Archie would fill the seats. The owner never had any intention of building a quantity team around Archie. I was glad when Archie retired. Many fans don't realize that he may have been better than his sons. Same arm, but very mobile for a QB.

 

[jobberone]

I think the HOF selection process is a joke. First, the media is involved, second, some members have made it publicly known that they are anti-Cowboy. Third, the media is involved and did I mention the 4th and 5th reasons that it is a joke? It is due to the media being involved. Lol, I think the process should consist of former players and "football" men.

Never going to happen.

 

[gbrittain]

ROH would be a slam dunk. HOF, maybe not first ballot but it one certainly make an agrument he would belong.

Whether he would be a first ballot HOFer or not is definitely not known but in my opinion he definitely should be if he gets one Super Bowl.

 

[jnday]

Never going to happen.

I agree Jobber. Don't you think it would be an improvement over the media based system? I certainly do.