Does Romo go in the RoH?

Jstopper

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If Eli were to win a 3rd SB he'll be virtually a lock especially with 2 wins over Brady and NE. I don't see 2 SB wins being enough but he does have the playoff record to be considered. What hurts him is his regular seasons haven't been that stellar he's committed far too many turnovers.

If he were to win a 3rd superbowl (don't see it happening) then yes I would agree with you. And btw I disagree with what you posted earlier, I think with even 1 SB Romo will make the HOF. He would have all the regular season stats, cowboy records, plus a ring at that point.
 

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Eli plays in NY. He's going to get in because that east coast media will get him in. Tony really doesn't have that so it's going to be harder, IMO.

They are not going to put 7 or 8 QBs from one single stat-inflated era in. The voters aren't nearly as dumb as people think they are, and they don't just go and mindlessly count hardware. I think that as long as Rivers or Romo both don't end up playing on Super Bowl winners (that being the only HOF credential Eli has on probably 2/3 of the league), then he has a good shot. For what it's worth, I have no issue with Eli in the HOF, it's not some zen garden of elite football gods to me, it's the Hall of "Fame". I think the story of all 3 Mannings is a big part of NFL history.
 

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If he were to win a 3rd superbowl (don't see it happening) then yes I would agree with you. And btw I disagree with what you posted earlier, I think with even 1 SB Romo will make the HOF. He would have all the regular season stats, cowboy records, plus a ring at that point.

I don't see Eli winning a 3rd SB either but I never saw him winning a SB in the first place with all the turnovers he commits. In his 2 SB runs the turnovers magically disappeared. As for Romo he would need multiple SB wins to make the HOF. Although his numbers are a Cowboys franchise best they're well down the list amongst the all-time NFL QB's. Several of Romo's peers out produce him every year and he's not winning the big head to head matchups vs the great QB's such as Aaron Rodgers. He's lost to Eli in a playoff game and a season finale elimination game. He lost to RG3 in an elimination game. Drew Brees is a first ballot lock with only one SB win due to the all-time passing records he has.
 

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If-and-when Romo is enshrined in the Dallas Cowboys Ring of Honor and/or Pro Football Hall of Fame, I hope he concludes his induction speeches with, "To both my long-time excessive critics and flat-out haters I say, with genuine sincerity and utmost respect, you can all kiss my backward cap wearing, pro golf playing, Cabo vacationing, cute according to my gorgeous wife, rolling in bank, ***. Thank you. God Bless. And how about dem Cowboys!"
 

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They are not going to put 7 or 8 QBs from one single stat-inflated era in. The voters aren't nearly as dumb as people think they are, and they don't just go and mindlessly count hardware. I think that as long as Rivers or Romo both don't end up playing on Super Bowl winners (that being the only HOF credential Eli has on probably 2/3 of the league), then he has a good shot. For what it's worth, I have no issue with Eli in the HOF, it's not some zen garden of elite football gods to me, it's the Hall of "Fame". I think the story of all 3 Mannings is a big part of NFL history.

I don't think you can make that statement with any level of certainty. From the era of mid 80s to 2000, there were 7 QBs voted in.
 

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I don't see Eli winning a 3rd SB either but I never saw him winning a SB in the first place with all the turnovers he commits. In his 2 SB runs the turnovers magically disappeared. As for Romo he would need multiple SB wins to make the HOF. Although his numbers are a Cowboys franchise best they're well down the list amongst the all-time NFL QB's. Several of Romo's peers out produce him every year and he's not winning the big head to head matchups vs the great QB's such as Aaron Rodgers. He's lost to Eli in a playoff game and a season finale elimination game. He lost to RG3 in an elimination game. Drew Brees is a first ballot lock with only one SB win due to the all-time passing records he has.

I'll agree to disagree. He won't require multiple I think 1 will suffice. Kurt Warner has 1 and he is in the HOF. If Romo wins a superbowl this year, then plays for 3-4 more seasons performing as an elite qb at a top level as he did last year (lead league in passer rating) then I have no doubt he will make hall of fame. I'm not sure if it would be first ballot that would probably require 2 SB, but at least 1 SB would probably get him in at maybe his 3 or 4th look.
 

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Jobber, I hope that Tony makes both. I think the next 2-3 years will be the deciding factors. Jerry may put him in the ROH, but there are some players that should go in before him due to the time they have waited and due to their outstanding careers and contributions to winning a Super Bowls. I think it will take at least one Super Bowl for him to get consideration for the HOF IMO. Tony only has a very few playoff wins is another consideration. I hope he gets in both because that would mean playoff wins and Super Bowls.

I agree there are others who should go in first (ROH). As far as the HOF goes, there are QBs who never won the SB who are in. I guess we'll see. A couple of SBs for Tony would cement it IMO. I just don't think either are absolutely necessary.
 

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I agree there are others who should go in first (ROH). As far as the HOF goes, there are QBs who never won the SB who are in. I guess we'll see. A couple of SBs for Tony would cement it IMO. I just don't think either are absolutely necessary.
IHMO, I believe a single Dallas Super Bowl victory would be sufficient enough to guarantee Romo a seat in the Hall.
 

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I'll agree to disagree. He won't require multiple I think 1 will suffice. Kurt Warner has 1 and he is in the HOF. If Romo wins a superbowl this year, then plays for 3-4 more seasons performing as an elite qb at a top level as he did last year (lead league in passer rating) then I have no doubt he will make hall of fame. I'm not sure if it would be first ballot that would probably require 2 SB, but at least 1 SB would probably get him in at maybe his 3 or 4th look.

If you're going to debate a topic do some research Kurt Warner is not in the HOF. He'll be inducted at some point due to his one SB win and his 2 other SB appearances. Not only has Warner led 2 different teams to the SB but he holds the top 3 SB passing yard games. During the 99 season Warner was the league MVP and the SB MVP. Warner's accomplishments blow away Romo's accomplishments there's no comparison. Romo has no chance at the HOF unless he wins multiple championships.
 

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If you're going to debate a topic do some research Kurt Warner is not in the HOF. He'll be inducted at some point due to his one SB win and his 2 other SB appearances. Not only has Warner led 2 different teams to the SB but he holds the top 3 SB passing yard games. During the 99 season Warner was the league MVP and the SB MVP. Warner's accomplishments blow away Romo's accomplishments there's no comparison. Romo has no chance at the HOF unless he wins multiple championships.

We'll see about that. Again I disagree
 

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Romo will never go down as one of the greats to ever play the game most don't consider him one of the elite QB's of this era. He's been a very good QB but several of his peers out produce him every year and have accomplished much more than he has. Now that the Cowboys are going to continue leaning on the run his passing numbers will be well down the all-time list by the time he retires.

Since 06 there is maybe a handful of qb's that I take over Romo, maybe. Which qb's since 06 do u think would have won SB's with the teams that Romo has been on? I'm really not coming up with any as imo they have all been very flawed teams, but as I said earlier that is finally starting to change with the turnaround last year.
 

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If you're going to debate a topic do some research Kurt Warner is not in the HOF. He'll be inducted at some point due to his one SB win and his 2 other SB appearances. Not only has Warner led 2 different teams to the SB but he holds the top 3 SB passing yard games. During the 99 season Warner was the league MVP and the SB MVP. Warner's accomplishments blow away Romo's accomplishments there's no comparison. Romo has no chance at the HOF unless he wins multiple championships.

1 SB and Im pretty sure he is in the HOF, the guy is toughness personified and has saved us from many 4-12 and 5-11 seasons.
 

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Don Meredith is in there and so shall Tony Romo. He is a great player with absolutely no ties to Jimmy Johnson and Tom Landry and Jerry would never dream of missing an opportunity to pay homage to himself. His speech will convince you that he discovered Romo almost entirely by himself.
 

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It took a great running game to allow Elway to win Super Bowls. He really choked bad against the Rexskins during the Super Bowl and he didn't have a running game to help him out. Romo's career may follow Elway's career. If it means a couple more rings, I am fine with that. Stats should be low on the list of things that put a player in the ROH. I see posts supporting the stats argument though.

Would love to see Romo's late career take the same arc as Elway, 2 SB's would be so sweet for this team. We are getting there, but it may take just a little bit more.
 

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Eli Manning's won 2 championships and will make the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The only way Romo is going to Canton is if he buys a ticket or plays in the Hall of Fame Game.

Eli cannot hold Romo's jockstrap as a qb, pls stop with the bs. Eli has/had his very good defense for his accomplishments.
 

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Eli plays in NY. He's going to get in because that east coast media will get him in. Tony really doesn't have that so it's going to be harder, IMO.

Eli gets in due to his name...MANNING, gauranteed. How many times do we have to see Manning Sr working behind the curtain for little boy Eli. Frankly Im sick of it and I always liked Archie as a qb. His 2 SB's will no doubt help, but as strictly a qb I think he has been pretty much mediocre his entire career.
 
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