Does the NFL really have it out for the 'Boys?

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The point is that there is a North East Bias centered in NYC.

In real life they wound not have the owner of Ford Lovers magazine investigating General Motors; however, the NFL appoints a die hard Giants fan to investigate Hardy. There are thousands of lawyers available that are not NFL fans. It would have been easy to get one of those to do the investigation.

Oh please. The idea that someone can't be both a fan of a team and also ethical and unbiased is just silly. Some people actually take their jobs really seriously and have moral convictions that trump their sports team affiliations.
 

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I don't think it's anything other than very poor refs but I've seen Tony get hit late many games and nothing is called.

Last season was the first time I remember Tony getting up very angry and in some refs faces.
 

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The point is that there is a North East Bias centered in NYC.

In real life they wound not have the owner of Ford Lovers magazine investigating General Motors; however, the NFL appoints a die hard Giants fan to investigate Hardy. There are thousands of lawyers available that are not NFL fans. It would have been easy to get one of those to do the investigation.

Well, that's fairly obvious i'd assume. I think people thinking it's "utterly ridiculous" have little to no experience in a professional setting in one of the biggest industries in the world. Usually, the more money involved, the more "questionable" some decisions become.

It's also completely naive to believe these dudes don't have their circle of "friends" they associate with more than others, and are much more inckined to show preferential treatment, especially living in such close proximity and having as much contact as they do.

As far as them going "out of their way" to stick it to Dallas, i can't really say, but i'm of the notion that a little bias is not only fairly obvious in the Goodell/Mara/Kraft circle, but completely expected.
 

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Oh please. The idea that someone can't be both a fan of a team and also ethical and unbiased is just silly. Some people actually take their jobs really seriously and have moral convictions that trump their sports team affiliations.

The point of conflict of interest is that individuals should not be put in the position to have to make the decision on if they are are or are not going to be biased. The NFL should use people that have no incentive to be biased.

It is the basis for the Voir Dire process in the legal system.

Sure, some individuals came overcome their natural bias; however, if you put 100 people in a position to have to overcome their natural bias, some of them are not going to succeed at overcoming it and somebody else gets shortchanged because of it.
 

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Well, that's fairly obvious i'd assume. I think people thinking it's "utterly ridiculous" have little to no experience in a professional setting in one of the biggest industries in the world. Usually, the more money involved, the more "questionable" some decisions become.

It's also completely naive to believe these dudes don't have their circle of "friends" they associate with more than others, and are much more inckined to show preferential treatment, especially living in such close proximity and having as much contact as they do.

As far as them going "out of their way" to stick it to Dallas, i can't really say, but i'm of the notion that a little bias is not only fairly obvious in the Goodell/Mara/Kraft circle, but completely expected.

If the the United States was setup like the NFL, all Senators and Congressmen would have been born and raised in NYC and there would be no representation from the other states.
 

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I don't think it's anything other than very poor refs but I've seen Tony get hit late many games and nothing is called.

Last season was the first time I remember Tony getting up very angry and in some refs faces.

I don't want to say you're right... but I think you're right. I too remember many late hits on old #9 that made me truly question if the refs harbor the players safety in their calls.
 

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I don't want to say you're right... but I think you're right. I too remember many late hits on old #9 that made me truly question if the refs harbor the players safety in their calls.

Tom Brady has easily 5 times as many roughing the passer calls as Tony Romo has gotten. Why is that?
 

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Tom Brady has easily 5 times as many roughing the passer calls as Tony Romo has gotten. Why is that?

I don't know why but Tony rarely ever gets that call. One game last season he got hit late...the ref was right there looking at the play....and Tony popped up and got all over that ref. It was a home game for the Cowboys I believe but I'm not sure of the game. I just remember that happening and going WTH?
 

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People that think Kraft is out to get us dont realize that Kraft and Jones are very close
 

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Oh please. The idea that someone can't be both a fan of a team and also ethical and unbiased is just silly. Some people actually take their jobs really seriously and have moral convictions that trump their sports team affiliations.

The reason most companies don't hire people who work for competitors or close relatives of Competitors is to avoid any chance of conflict of interest. You're right that some people have the conviction to separate thier feelings for their team and be professional enough to help dish out punishments. But that won't make people second guess those decisions when they go in favor of his team.

If the NFL front office was smart they would hire an outside lawyer or someone with no affiliation to prevent any issues. That's why the referees are strictly vetted so see if they have any favorite teams to prevent them making biased calls.
 

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If you choose to think the NFL is out to get the Cowboys fine believe as you choose, I don't buy into your paranoid BS. It is beyond childish

What I will say on this is that the Dallas Football Cowboys generates more revenue for the NFL than any team and more than a few teams combined.
This is a business run by smart people who employ smarter people to run the business and business has been booming.

What smart business man bites the hand that feeds it more than any other?
The Dallas Cowboys could secede and join another league like the CFL (ridiculous, I know, but I'm making a point) and their exposure and success would explode. No question. And us die hard's would still watch. I will. I don't care where my Cowboys play...
They might not succeed in the End, but I guarantee the mere loss of this franchise from the NFL would send tidal ripples through all of sports. All of Sports. That's how powerful the Cowboys brand is.

I doubt the League is purposefully trying to harm their biggest cash cow. Seriously doubt it.
 
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