Don’t overvalue Cole Beasley

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I'll say this.. If Beasely wasn't injured and severely limited in action, I bet we pull that Ram's game out.

He accounted for 39 1st downs, the second most of his career. The first being 51 was Prescott's rookie season. A Dak go to guy.

Going to have to replace both the TE and Slot WR then.. Both favorite and instrumental targets in Prescott and this offense moving the chains. Draft priorities will seem to go all offense then seeing as how we don't spend money in FA
 
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Dez, Witten, and DeMarco ate up the targets in 2014. Cole only got 40% of the snaps.

Cole was ranked 13th in the league for Football Outsiders DVOA
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr2014
The other statistic given is DVOA, or Defense-adjusted Value Over Average. This number represents value, per play, over an average WR in the same game situations. The more positive the DVOA rating, the better the player's performance. DVOA (and its cousin, VOA, which isn't adjusted based on opponent) is further explained here.​

2015 blew, as one might expect.

But then Beasley was ranked 5th in the league across their 3 custom stats in 2016.
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr2016

Extremely high catch rate. Converts 3rd downs.

2017, Beasley was the guy who got doubled, and his numbers were down.

He's a great 3rd. Beats single coverage reliably. Catches reliably. But not a guy to beat double coverage.
And not worth the cap space it’s going to require to keep what is arguably going to be the “4th option” in next years passing attack.
 

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Keep him if you can. There is nothing like chemistry, and now we have 3 receivers that have a chance to have serious chemistry. Just make something work for both parties.
I’d love to keep him
He’s a dang good slot receiver
The problem is at what cost? Beasley is actually getting fairly old to be signing long term
I hope we can keep him but I’m not paying him 5 mil to stay
 

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I'll say this.. If Beasely wasn't injured and severely limited in action, I bet we pull that Ram's game out.

He accounted for 39 1st downs, the second most of his career. The first being 51 was Prescott's rookie season. A Dak go to guy.

Going to have to replace both the TE and Slot WR then.. Both favorite and instrumental targets in Prescott and this offense moving the chains. Draft priorities will seem to go all offense then seeing as how we don't spend money in FA
I remember when ware left. Some fans felt they had to trash him. Ware was a great player who got too expensive for his age and health. Moving on was the right move. But he was a great player
Beasley is a dang good slot player and if he leaves Hurns is not gonna be able to fill his shoes. That said, he is also turning 30 and wants a big payday. I don’t think we can give him that big payday so I expect he’s gone and that’s the right move. But he’s gonna be missed in this offense
 

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When I say we should not “overvalue” Beasley I’m not saying he’s not good.

What I am saying is we as fans too often look at good players we have and forget that there are other players out there in the draft or FA that will be just as good...maybe better. Fans tend to overvalue favorite players because they only think about the here and now instead of the future.
 

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I remember when ware left. Some fans felt they had to trash him. Ware was a great player who got too expensive for his age and health. Moving on was the right move. But he was a great player
Beasley is a dang good slot player and if he leaves Hurns is not gonna be able to fill his shoes. That said, he is also turning 30 and wants a big payday. I don’t think we can give him that big payday so I expect he’s gone and that’s the right move. But he’s gonna be missed in this offense


The problem is... Whoever is going to replace Beasely should have already been on the roster. That player should be in his 2nd or 3rd year by now. This offense needs to take a step forward, not backwards..

So here is to hoping some 5th round pick can be as sure handed as Beasely and instantly on the same page as Dak, can run routes, get open quick, be sure handed and "on the field available"..

I like saving 5 mil but at what expense? Are we putting that money somewhere or just sitting on it and getting worse at the same time?
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Our Scouts seem to be really good at what they do and I have some trust there.. But again, sure wish that player was already on the roster.
 

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The problem is... Whoever is going to replace Beasely should have already been on the roster. That player should be in his 2nd or 3rd year by now. This offense needs to take a step forward, not backwards..

So here is to hoping some 5th round pick can be as sure handed as Beasely and instantly on the same page as Dak, can run routes, get open quick, be sure handed and "on the field available"..

I like saving 5 mil but at what expense? Are we putting that money somewhere or just sitting on it and getting worse at the same time?
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Our Scouts seem to be really good at what they do and I have some trust there.. But again, sure wish that player was already on the roster.
We had the guy
Traded him to raiders
Had a solid year with Steelers
 

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keep him, I wanna keep raggin on this clown every weekend, which is less than as often as this fool argues with people on twitter and gives interviews about "staying off social media"... bonus points for his mouthy wife

this clown can follow Ryan Switzer's lil *** around as my most hated Cowboy of the last couple of years

wish I could teleport into a punt coverage gunner and absolutely level this pumpkin into the shadow realm
 

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I remember when ware left. Some fans felt they had to trash him. Ware was a great player who got too expensive for his age and health. Moving on was the right move. But he was a great player
Beasley is a dang good slot player and if he leaves Hurns is not gonna be able to fill his shoes. That said, he is also turning 30 and wants a big payday. I don’t think we can give him that big payday so I expect he’s gone and that’s the right move. But he’s gonna be missed in this offense
Sure you can! It's like you said hes turning 30. Give him TWills contract. It's the same if not more than what any other team in the league is gonna offer him!
 

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"We dont need a #1 WR", and then we traded a first for Cooper mid-season, because we actually neded a #1 WR. Are we prepared to let Beasley go?
 

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Beasely is on a team where they value the te position more than the slot wrs. That's gonna catch up to the Cowboys this year and we're gonna lose Beasely and austin and still have a sorry te core.

We offered him 3 million per year and he will get 8-10 million per year from teams that have starting slot wrs. I just hope he doesn't land on a division rival team.

Good luck to Beasely. He never really got the snaps and targets but his open and catch rate we're always clutch

I can't fault either from moving on. The cowboys have an everydown te led offense which is not conducive to utilizing a starting slot wr. Too bad we put too much stock in twill and not beasely.

I could see him starting in ne or gbay and he won't have any problems getting paid double or triple what he's making here.
 

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And not worth the cap space it’s going to require to keep what is arguably going to be the “4th option” in next years passing attack.

Beasley is not worth the market price to us, because he is worth more elsewhere. We're a bad fit for him. Run first offense. A QB who doesn't execute quickly.
 

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Sure you can! It's like you said hes turning 30. Give him TWills contract. It's the same if not more than what any other team in the league is gonna offer him!
I don’t know if he would agree to a 2 yr 7 mil deal
I’d do that but not sure he would
They tried to extend him and couldn’t get it done
I don’t think what they were offering was anything like Twill deal. I suspect it was better
 

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Don't worry about Beasley he will just go to the Pats and have a career like Amendola, remember him?
 

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I agree. Having said that I was surprised by his action since I can't recall any off the field issue with Williams but none the less let this team down. I will not make excuses of anxiety or bi polar, Cowboys needed him and he failed this team. I have not heard much coming from the Cowboys on Williams, I know he is in his last year of his contract that pays 4 mill. Be interested to see what they do.

I was thinking that he has several more years left on his contract since he just resigned, but I may be mistaken.

Yes the off the field stuff came out of the blue. But he was never a really smart player.
 

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Before I start, let me say up front that I like Cole Beasley and what he’s done as a Cowboy in his his 7 year NFL career. He has been a good, solid slot receiver. Good. Not great. Most dedicated fans of any team unfortunately tend to overvalue a player they love, blinding them to the details of his performance.

And for that simple reason, along with several others, Cole Beasley should not be resigned here for the future. Let me get specific about the reasons why we should not overvalue Cole Beasley.

1. HIS STATS ARE JUST AVERAGE.
In his 7 years as a Cowboys slot receiver, in 103 games, Cole Beasley has caught 319 passes for 3,271 yards and 23 TDs. That means for his career, Beas averaged 3 catches for 31 yards per game, and averaged 3.2 TDs per season.

Some would argue that his first 2 years in the league he wasn’t a full time player. Ok, let’s take the last 5 seasons then. His 5 year average in 79 games has been 55 receptions for 555 yards. That translates to 3.3 receptions per game for 35 yards in his best 5 years.

Not great.

2. HISBEST YEARSARE BEHIND HIM
Beas will be 30 as he enters the 2019 season. Looking at his career stats above, I can’t see how it could be argued that he will have better statistical years ahead. As we saw in his stats numbers, he is not exceptional in receiving numbers, yardage or TDs.

Unless your name is Jerry Rice or some other rare ageless talent, NFL history is not kind to receivers 30 and older.

3. THERE WILL BE YOUNGER CHEAPER TALENT AVAILABLE IN DRAFT OR FA
It’s not like there aren’t a lot of younger, talented and less expensive players available. One guy I would love to pick up is 26 year old Adam Humphries from Tampa Bay who has consistently been one of the best slot receivers in the NFL. Unfortunately he will probably garner top dollar, like 4 years at $10 mil per year.

But there are several UFAs who are 24-27, have lots of upside, and are not going to garner big bucks. One example is 25 year old Phillip Dorsett who has played with NE last year and caught 32 passes as a 3rd down specialist in NE. Or there’s 26 year old Chris Conley of KC who caught 32 passs from Pat Mahomes for 5 TDs.

Point is, there will be younger, cheaper talent available in FA and the draft.

Bottom line- Unless Cole Beasley is willing to sign for a lot less than has been floated out there, there is no smart reason to resign him here again. Beas has been a good, reliable slot receiver. But if we’re going to pay him more, we should use that money to sign somebody like Adam Humphries who’s younger and more talented.

Right?

I think there is little to no chance he returns to Dallas and I'm fine with that.
 

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Why can't Tavon Austin play the slot? Jeff Fisher makes him a gadget guy and now that's what he is for life? I wonder what KC and NO would do with the guy
 

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Why can't Tavon Austin play the slot? Jeff Fisher makes him a gadget guy and now that's what he is for life? I wonder what KC and NO would do with the guy
Here’s my problem with Tavon as “the” slot man- he’s missed 19 games in six seasons. One of the biggest abilities in pro football is “availability”. That groin injury he had this year was bad enough to consider surgery. Those kind of injuries tend to come back.

He may be worth signing but it would have to be on the cheap and I don’t see him as 50-60 reception slot guy. In his six years in the league he has only caught 50 or more passes two seasons. I like Tavon but we could do better at the slot.
 
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