Done with the NFLs officiating

[KJJ]

It was botched! Ain't changing nobody's mind on that one.

Everyone here can think the call was botched it's not going to change anything except maybe the interpretation of the rule at the next owners meeting.

 

[greatwallofdallas]

It sucks the game ended this way. But I got a feeling this play will make the boys come back with a vengeance. The NFL has its agenda Cowboys are going to rip that agenda off their hands and dominate!

 

[pugilist]

How come Dez isnt penalized for coming onto the field with no helmet? Why is he different than everyone esle

It was a review timeout, the ball was not in play

 

[KJJ]

everyone knew that after the Cobb play

defend that one

I'll have to go back and look at the Cobb play it didn't receive as much scrutiny as this one.

 

[manster4ever]

Nope. Your wrong. He had control. Took 2-3 steps and tucked it under his arm. Then when he was going onto the ground the ball was loss and his arm hit the ground but not the ball. Thats a TD.

That was not the right call. If he didn't have control of the ball why was he still able to move the ball under his arm? There is no argument that was an incomplete pass. In fact, one angle showed that his arm hit the ground and not the ball which then should have been a TD.

Give it up. Dez had full control of the ball while landing and took 2-3 steps. The refs are clearly wrong on this.

it didnt' cross the plain of the goal line...NOT a TD at all. NO doubt about that. Rule is horse ****. No doubt about that either. Jobbed by the rule, not the call. It's a joke of a league right now. Seahags gonna curb stomp them anyway.

 

[tyke1doe]

Moving the ball from his right hand to his left hand was clearly a football move after the three steps but he already had taken.

But he shifts the ball as part of the catch. He's not running and then switches hands. I don't like the rule anymore than you do, but based on the letter of the law, it wasn't a catch.

 

[Cowboys22]

Nope. Your wrong. He had control. Took 2-3 steps and tucked it under his arm. Then when he was going onto the ground the ball was loss and his arm hit the ground but not the ball. Thats a TD.

That was not the right call. If he didn't have control of the ball why was he still able to move the ball under his arm? There is no argument that was an incomplete pass. In fact, one angle showed that his arm hit the ground and not the ball which then should have been a TD.

Give it up. Dez had full control of the ball while landing and took 2-3 steps. The refs are clearly wrong on this.

Nope, you're living in the past. The rule was changed 4 years ago and was called correctly. The rule totally sucks and that is where the fingers should be pointed. The refs reviewed it, they know the rule better than you, and they got it right. The rule as written takes away things that have been catches for 150 years. You simply refuse to accept today's reality when WRs go to the ground as part of the catch which Bryant did.

 

[KJJ]

Had the Cowboys not botched a few plays earlier in the game it may not have come down to that review. The Cowboys had plenty of opportunities to win this game.

 

[manster4ever]

But he shifts the ball as part of the catch. He's not running and then switches hands. I don't like the rule anymore than you do, but based on the letter of the law, it wasn't a catch.

NOT true....he took two steps and lunged for the goal line. That to ME is a football move for SURE. Came up short and the ball didn't cross the plain of the goal line. It hit the ground just before the goal line and that cost him, and us the game. By RULE....stupid efftarded, BS rule from hell....it's an incomplete pass.

What pisses me off more than anything is that the ground can't cause a fumble for a RB or QB or DB after an INT...ANY other player and we retain possession. But for a WR they changed the rule after Calvin Johnson got jobbed a few years ago vs. Chicago and 'clarified' it. Efftards made it even worse really.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I could see your point if he went to the ground in the same normal motion. However he did not. He switched hands with the ball and lunged towards the end zone. So he did not just go to the ground like the rule is written to enforce.

Exactly. He was moving the ball once he maintained the 2 step required. If thats the case, he had control of it which indicate a catch. Lunging into the endzone was after 3 steps. Bad call by the refs.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Calvin Johnson rule. The call was correct but it's a really stupid rule and we're not the first team to get screwed by it

So tired of hearing this stupid hot sports take.

The Calvin Johnson rule only comes into play in the endzone.

The issue here is if Dez had made a "football move."

He had control at the top of his jump. As he was coming down he shifted the ball into his left hand. Stretched for the pylon.

How is that not a football move?

 

[mahoneybill]

It sucks the game ended this way. But I got a feeling this play will make the boys come back with a vengeance. The NFL has its agenda Cowboys are going to rip that agenda off their hands and dominate!

Get us some D help, and I think we will do just that.

 

[KJJ]

About as intelligent as you saying that I called the officials idiots.
I said they messed up this call.
Is your boyfriend a referee or something?

I was referring to a few others I've been arguing with who think they're better qualified to make these calls. You've made it clear you're one of them who thinks you know more about the rule than the officials how intelligent is that?

 

[mahoneybill]

So tired of hearing this stupid hot sports take.

The Calvin Johnson rule only comes into play in the endzone.

The issue here is if Dez had made a "football move."

He had control at the top of his jump. As he was coming down he shifted the ball into his left hand. Stretched for the pylon.

How is that not a football move?

Watching the play again where you see the angle from the sideline it's clear he has control, goes for the lunge and still " to me" doesn't lose control of the ball. Yes it comes out in the end zone, but he recovers it....

 

[TellerMorrow34]

When did the ball hit the ground? His hands were still around the ball when it touched the ground. That is possession. He never lost possession.

The ball hit the ground, when he stretched out. He didn't drop the ball and it hit the ground. It hit the ground and popped out as he was going down.

Now if they were crediting him for his football moves, and the ball popping out like that, then it's a catch and a fumble that doesn't count as a fumble cause the ground can't cause a fumble.

But I'm saying that how the NFL is going to explain this, so they can say it's the right call, is that he didn't take three steps and lunge forward in the act of football moves. They're going to say he was falling to the ground, after coming down, and in that case he must maintain control of the ball, all the way through the end of the play. So when he stretched out, and the ball, while against his forearm, contacted the ground and popped out they're going to say he lost control of the catch and it doesn't count.

That's the way it will be explained.

It's not the correct call. He clearly caught the ball, came down to the ground with possession, took three steps and turned his body to lunge at the endzone. Those are all football moves after making the catch. But the league isn't going to admit that cause they're not going to admit to two major blown calls on consecutive weeks in the playoffs.

They're going to say he never came down and made a move they're going to say he came to the ground and fell and since he was falling down he has to maintain control throughout.

 

[ConstantReboot]

it didnt' cross the plain of the goal line...NOT a TD at all. NO doubt about that. Rule is horse ****. No doubt about that either. Jobbed by the rule, not the call. It's a joke of a league right now. Seahags gonna curb stomp them anyway.

Yes but if his arm hit the ground and caused the ball to jar lose than thats still a completion. Because after when the ball was jarred lose by the arm hitting the ground it didn't hit the ground again.

Nonetheless, they like to point out the Calvin Johnson rule. This was not that because he had control of the ball coming down and was moving it under his arm. Moving the ball under the arm constitutes possession and control. Thus there was no way this should have been overturned. Thats a catch and the Cowboys was robbed.

 

[Gaede]

Had the Cowboys not botched a few plays earlier in the game it may not have come down to that review. The Cowboys had plenty of opportunities to win this game.

And they made a play to win the game.

But the refs took it away from them.

 

[mahoneybill]

I'll have to go back and look at the Cobb play it didn't receive as much scrutiny as this one.

Interesting Perria thought that one hit the ground and should not be ruled a catch, but clearly followed party line of the Dez non catch...

 

[manster4ever]

So tired of hearing this stupid hot sports take.

The Calvin Johnson rule only comes into play in the endzone.

The issue here is if Dez had made a "football move."

He had control at the top of his jump. As he was coming down he shifted the ball into his left hand. Stretched for the pylon.

How is that not a football move?

YES...that's my contention. Your take is 100% spot on. He made the move, lunged for the pylon and came up short. It hit the ground and the ground can't cause a fumble. But because the NFL wanted to BONE us, they said he didn't make a move and as 'PART OF THE PROCESS' the ball came out. WHich he subsequently caught a second time BTW.

next wk:

Seattle 40

GBay 14........not sour grapes, being straight up serious.

 

[KJJ]

And they made a play to win the game.

But the refs took it away from them.

The game wouldn't have been over had the Cowboys scored on that drive they would have been clinging to a 2 point lead with enough time for Rodgers to win the game in the end.