Done with the NFLs officiating

omeletpants

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How come Dez isnt penalized for coming onto the field with no helmet? Why is he different than everyone esle
 

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When the ball touched the ground it was not in the process of making the catch. The catch was already made. He switched hands with the ball put his arm down and lunged for the end zone.

No, no, no. You simply refuse to acknowledge to truth of the rule. As soon as he came down with the ball he began falling to the ground, thus, he must maintain full possession of the ball as he hits the ground. He did not. The refs got it right.
 

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rule text

Article 3. Completed or Intercepted Pass. A player who makes a catch may advance
the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) if
a player, who is inbounds:

(a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground;
and
(b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than
his hands.
. . .

If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any part of his body
other than his hands to the ground, or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous,
it is not a catch.

Item 1: Player Going to the Ground. If a player goes to the ground in the act of
catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control
of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If
he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control,
the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground,
the pass is complete.


six ways from sunday it was a catch per the rules.

The explanation they will give is that he didn't take three steps that he was going to the ground, in the act of the catch, therefor he had to maintain control all the way through out.

With them going with it from that direction the fact that the ball hit the ground, when he was stretching out, causes it to not be a catch.


I don't agree with that but that's the way the league is going to explain and explain why the call was right. They're not going to credit him for coming down, and making the football move of taking three steps to try and score, they're going to say he made those steps because he was falling down after coming to the ground.
 

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I thought what the refs missed is that he was "DOWN BY CONTACT". The play was over once his forearm touched the ground while he still had possession of the ball

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The fact that Dez moved the ball from his right hand to his left hand is enough to establish the catch. Then he stretched out for the end zone.

How can the ground be a factor in possession and the "process" when the guy switched hands with the ball?
 

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What I want to know is how the packers were allowed to hit Romo in the knees, twice(once pretty damn late) and no roughing the passer calls.

What has he gotten, like 2 all year?
 

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The call wouldn't have been reversed if he did. You had the ref, Blandino in NY and Pereira who agreed the call should have been reversed

Watch the play again. He caught the ball hand two hands on it took two steps. Thats a completion. Your being blinded by the fact that refs don't make mistakes. They did with this call big time. Dez did not bobble the ball going down. In fact, the only reason why he lost control of the ball was when he lunged into the endzone which indicates a football move.
 

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Can somebody please post the picture of him diving to the end zone again? Need that picture.
 

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Baloney. He made three steps with the ball, he shifted the ball from his right hand to his left hand. He took his left hand and extended the ball out to try to get it across the goal line. His left hand, when he extended out, was alongside the ball and kept control of the ball. His right elbow clearly touched the ground ending the play before his left hand came down to the ground.

And he was falling down the entire time. And when you fall down while making a catch you have to maintain possession. It was clear as day. It's a stupid rule
 

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It wasn't as clear as day or the call wouldn't have been reversed go tell those who made the call to go have their eyes checked. Dude don't get personal with me or I'll be done with you on this board.

Block me then. I welcome it.
 

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The explanation they will give is that he didn't take three steps that he was going to the ground, in the act of the catch, therefor he had to maintain control all the way through out.

With them going with it from that direction the fact that the ball hit the ground, when he was stretching out, causes it to not be a catch.


I don't agree with that but that's the way the league is going to explain and explain why the call was right. They're not going to credit him for coming down, and making the football move of taking three steps to try and score, they're going to say he made those steps because he was falling down after coming to the ground.

When did the ball hit the ground? His hands were still around the ball when it touched the ground. That is possession. He never lost possession.
 

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Under your theory it wouldnt be a card after 13 steps either

It's not my rule make your complaints to those responcible for the rule and reversing the call during the game.
 

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If the NFL has written a rule that makes that play not a catch then that rule is inappropriately written. Dez had full control of the ball, took multiple steps, and dove for the end zone. But none of that counts even though he traveled 5 yards in the course of it with full control of the ball.

BINGO! That has always been the issue. Things that clearly look like a catch, should be a catch, and have been a catch for 150 years are no longer a catch. The rule is bad, the refs got it right.
 

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No, no, no. You simply refuse to acknowledge to truth of the rule. As soon as he came down with the ball he began falling to the ground, thus, he must maintain full possession of the ball as he hits the ground. He did not. The refs got it right.

He already switched hands with the ball.

Look...everyone has already acknowledged that Dez hurt himself by reaching for the end zone...people who want to say it isn't a catch have already acknowledged this. So you can't say it wasn't a football move now. If you know he switched hands with the ball and went for the end zone then the ground is not a part of the "process" of making the catch.
 

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you cannot have the refs changing a play like this in a game this close. Its complete BS.
 

KJJ

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Watch the play again. He caught the ball hand two hands on it took two steps. Thats a completion. Your being blinded by the fact that refs don't make mistakes. They did with this call big time. Dez did not bobble the ball going down. In fact, the only reason why he lost control of the ball was when he lunged into the endzone which indicates a football move.

The refs make plenty of mistakes and their mistakes are reversed in replay. This is a call that was reviewed by two sets of expert eyes the ref at the game and Blandino in NY.
 

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Do you close your eyes as soon as he hits the ground? The ball clearly comes totally out of his hands as he is rolling over. Again, it's the rule that's the issue. The refs got it right. It sucks but that the way it is.

I never saw the ball hit the ground
 
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