Done with the NFLs officiating

[kevm3]

https://vine.co/v/ODZBIg1dV9I

 

[sacase]

If you don't know the rules, you shouldn't post about the rules.

Game is over. We lost. If it had been a catch, we may have won this game. We didn't win and complaining about a non-catch that you are completely wrong about isn't going to change that fact.

then why are you posting as you obviously don't know the rules.

 

[big dog cowboy]

How do you know the ball hit the ground? Give a pic or a camera view please if you have one. There is no proof that ball hit the ground.

Pics all over the Dez thread.

 

[shmee]

I know what you're saying the ball is usually gone but in this case Dez regained control "after" the ball hit the ground.

What's the rule then when a player has the ball gripped in his hands, hands around the nose, pinned to his forearm, and the balls makes contact with the ground, and moves. Whats the rule on that. i didn't see dez lose the ball completely. i mean theres no arguing, he had a grip on that ball.

 

[KJJ]

How do you know the ball hit the ground? Give a pic or a camera view please if you have one. There is no proof that ball hit the ground.

The ball was clearly touching the ground how could anyone argue that especially watching games on flat screens in HD in super slow-mo?

 

[mugsybows]

It's feels like these bad calls are just getting passed down from team to team. Fans said we won cuz of a bad call and public outcry is so strong that wouldn't ya know it we lose on a questionable call. Now fans are saying that Green Bay won on a botched call, I'm willing to bet they won't have any favorable calls called for them next week to show that the NFL is fair. The game is being ruined with all these rules and meddling. Just let them play.

 

[Cowboys22]

He caught the ball with two hands. If he still hadn't made the catch while he went to the ground, why would he take his other hand off the ball?

You obviously have no idea what a catch is by rule. Simply catching the ball doesn't always constitute a catch. To complete the catch in that situation, he needed to fully maintain possession throughout going to the ground. It was never a catch under the rules until he did so. He didn't. Incomplete. The rule sucks and takes things that were catches for 150 years and makes them incompletions. Be upset at the rule change not the correct interpretation and reversal.

 

[Don Corleone]

The ball was clearly touching the ground how could anyone argue that especially watching games on flat screens in HD?

Umm I was drinking. Give me a break

 

[aria]

I'm done with the NFL. I won't invest my time into a product that is this flawed.

I've seen and been through many bad calls but that was the worst one I have ever seen.

Even worse than Dez arguing with an official with his helmet off and not being called?

C'mon guys lets stop complaining. It sucks, yes but we got away with one the week before and there wasn't bear this much sympathy for you know who (I refuse to spell their name).

The fact is we got screwed today but we had our chances. Im still po'd about the play call. That was a stupid gamble on 4th and short. We were tearing them up all day with the run, we have the best rn in the league and one of the best o lines.

So what does JG do? Bomb it down the field. It almost paid off but I can almost promise you we would have picked up the 1st by handing to Murray. Maybe we should question JG more than the officials.

 

[percyhoward]

You obviously have no idea what a catch is by rule.

Evidently the official nearest the play doesn't either.

 

[KJJ]

Umm I was drinking. Give me a break

That's some good stuff you're drinking I could use a stiff one myself.

 

[YosemiteSam]

then why are you posting as you obviously don't know the rules.

lol, really?

 

[DTown214]

He never had possession according to the new rule enacted 4 years ago. I don't get what is so hard to understand about that. He went to the ground as part of catching the ball, thus, he must maintain possession. He didn't. Five years ago, catch. Today, incomplete.

So let me get this straight, just so I don't lose my mind if it happens again... A receiver can catch the football, have full and complete possession, take three steps with the ball, then lunge for the end zone but because the ball hit the ground the entire pass is incomplete? I don't think so. He wasn't bobbling the ball on his way down, and the ground didn't dictate him catching the ball or not. If he flat out dove to catch the ball, it would be different. He caught the ball, stood up, took three steps while having possession, and then dove and the ball hit the ground. That's a complete pass buddy.

 

[links18]

The ball may have touched the ground BUT Dez maintained control of the ball until he rolled over then the ball popped up in the air and he caught it again. It was a catch. The ball can hit the ground, as long as the ground does not help him maintain possession, which I don't think it did. In any event there was not indisputable evidence to overturn it. We were hosed plain and simple.

 

[kevm3]

Even worse than Dez arguing with an official with his helmet off and not being called?

C'mon guys lets stop complaining. It sucks, yes but we got away with one the week before and there wasn't bear this much sympathy for you know who (I refuse to spell their name).

The fact is we got screwed today but we had our chances. Im still po'd about the play call. That was a stupid gamble on 4th and short. We were tearing them up all day with the run, we have the best rn in the league and one of the best o lines.

So what does JG do? Bomb it down the field. It almost paid off but I can almost promise you we would have picked up the 1st by handing to Murray. Maybe we should question JG more than the officials.

nah. The officials deserve every bit of scrutiny they are getting. They are paid professionals. If players are required to perform, so should officials.

 

[aria]

nah. The officials deserve every bit of scrutiny they are getting. They are paid professionals. If players are required to perform, so should officials.

I definitely agree with you there. As much as I hate to say it, you know who got screwed last week. I rather win a game fair and square, by the rules, not on bs calls, no calls,etc.

It's absurd. This a professional sport with professional athletes. Coaches, players and staff jobs are dependent upon results. The NFL hires these bush league weekend warriors to "officiate" the games yet instead of officiating they're deciding the outcome based on incompetency.

 

[KJJ]

Terrifying.

For those who enjoy arguing with me they'll regret allowing their emotions to get the better of them over a call that's clearly defined in the rule book. Attack my opinions all you want but don't attack me personally or I will waste no time zapping people from my discussion list.

 

[dallasfan4lizife]

This is exactly what you would expect on a Cowboy FAN forum. Last weeks reversal was the correct call because it went in favor of the Cowboys and this call was a botched call because it went against the Cowboys. The Cowboys had plenty of opportunities to have the game not come down to that review.

The picked up PI was correct. There was a blatant hold however, which would have allowed detroit to score most likely putting the game out of reach. So this game might not even be possible. But just like Detroit, Dallas had plenty of chances to put the game out of reach and couldn't close.

I don't agree with this interpretation of the rule (as another ref might have ruled it a catch) because it is an opinion to whether he made a football move or not. In the offseason some of the rules may need to be looked at...but I agree Cowboys lost flat out. Refs just kicked us in the gut.

 

[kevm3]

Why didn't the officials look to the rule book on this catch?
https://vine.co/v/ODZBIg1dV9I

 

[SultanOfSix]

I don't understand where the "interpretation" is for the rule: "If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete."

Seems like a conclusive catch to me regardless if he makes a football move or not.