Done with the NFLs officiating

[BourbonBalz]

So are three steps not a football move anymore?

He also lunged and extended the ball to the goal line. I guess trying to score acTD isn't a football move. Must be a golf move.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Does anyone have a vid of the Calvin Johnson play that supposedly this rule came from?????

 

[Shotgun Dave]

But we don't need him to win the game. We need him to make a first down. We had more than four minutes left. And it was fourth down. Just do your job. Don't try to win the game by yourself.

I'll respectfully disagree.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Dallas lost the game not the refs

 

[ConstantReboot]

You're the one in denial the current rule makes the catch incomplete.The play was similar to the Calvin Johnson play they both caught the ball and lost control when the ball touched the ground except Dez regained control. Under the current rule that's an incomplete pass…nuff said!

No its not. Ask me this? If he didn't have full control of the ball why was he still able to extend it out into the endzone?

The Calvin Johnson was him taking the ball and palming it down into the ground. Which doesn't show full control. Answer why was Dez being able to extend it out is different from Calvin using his hand to palm to the ground. Dez had full control. Calvin Johnson does not apply here.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

But we don't need him to win the game. We need him to make a first down. We had more than four minutes left. And it was fourth down. Just do your job. Don't try to win the game by yourself.

I get what you're saying here. I respect it completely.

But you can't coach a player to not try and win the game. It would be counter productive.

Dez is a beast. He'd made a play. He knew it was a catch. He knew he was going to try and score since he'd caught it.

Can't have your players thinking..."Well what if the refs mess this up on a potential replay. I'm just gonna go down here."

 

[HoustonSucks]

Wow, Thanks for that.... that's BS IMO. If the ground can't cause a fumble then the ground should play no factor in a catch of that nature - IE IMO he clearly had possession as his arm was swinging over. If he didn't have possession, the ball would have slipped out of his hands before the ground caused it to come out. Ah, well.... I don't know... we didn't lose this game all because of this crap call on Bryant... that's the hard cold sad fact....I don't feel well...

 

[tideh20heel]

There is nothing complex about that call. Stop being in denial just because it was overturned. Bryant took 2-3 steps and lunged forward with the ball. If he had full control why was he able to lung forward with it?

Thats a catch. The Cowboys was robbed. Was there bias? Of course there was. Otherwise why would they overturn it.

The lunge is the key even by their twisted logic. Then they decided he didn't extend quite enough. I guarantee you if that ball ends up out the back of the end zone because he over extends it's Packer ball on the 20

 

[ConstantReboot]

Wow, Thanks for that.... that's BS IMO. If the ground can't cause a fumble then the ground should play no factor in a catch of that nature - IE IMO he clearly had possession as his arm was swinging over. If he didn't have possession, the ball would have slipped out of his hands before the ground caused it to come out. Ah, well.... I don't know... we didn't lose this game all because of this crap call on Bryant... that's the hard cold sad fact....I don't feel well...

Totally agree. That was not the Calvin Johnson rule because he certainly had full possession. If he didn't have full possession he would have been able to extend the ball like he did into the endzone.

Calvin's rule was him taking the palm of his hand and using the ground as leverage. Dez's case was that he had full possession and then extending it out. You would not been able to extend the ball out like that if he didn't have possession. Thus thats a catch.

 

[links18]

There is nothing complex about that call. Stop being in denial just because it was overturned. Bryant took 2-3 steps and lunged forward with the ball. If he had full control why was he able to lung forward with it?

Thats a catch. The Cowboys was robbed. Was there bias? Of course there was. Otherwise why would they overturn it.

Come on. I agree the call was bad, but you guys screaming conspiracy make yourselves look foolish. Just as there was no conspiracy to pick up the flag last week, there was no conspiracy to deny Dez the catch. That's tinfoil hat stuff there. Now where there may be a conspiracy is in the league lining up behind the call after the fact. I'll give you that.

 

[tideh20heel]

He also lunged and extended the ball to the goal line. I guess trying to score acTD isn't a football move. Must be a golf move.

It was caught controlled and a lot of football stuff was done. Gotta keep the Lambeau mystique alive.

 

[ConstantReboot]

The lunge is the key even by their twisted logic. Then they decided he didn't extend quite enough. I guarantee you if that ball ends up out the back of the end zone because he over extends it's Packer ball on the 20

Its totally a bad call either way. I can't see how the refs would overturn this. Thats not the Calvin Johnson rule at all because he didn't drive the ball to the ground. He was extending the ball to the endzone. Thus I can't think of anyway they could have overturned it.

 

[Cowboys22]

I get what you're saying here. I respect it completely.

But you can't coach a player to not try and win the game. It would be counter productive.

Dez is a beast. He'd made a play. He knew it was a catch. He knew he was going to try and score since he'd caught it.

Can't have your players thinking..."Well what if the refs mess this up on a potential replay. I'm just gonna go down here."

How about coaching a WR that if he is going to the ground, make sure you secure the ball and don't let is pop out. That way there can be no controversy. Bottom line is he needed to hold onto the ball more than he needed to get another yard and he should know that in that situation. He made an incredible play but didn't fully secure it.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Come on. I agree the call was bad, but you guys screaming conspiracy make yourselves look foolish. Just as there was no conspiracy to pick up the flag last week, there was no conspiracy to deny Dez the catch. That's tinfoil hat stuff there. Now where there may be a conspiracy is in the league lining up behind the call after the fact. I'll give you that.

Who said I'm screaming conspiracy? The NFL wanted to make sure that we would get punished for that play against the Lions. It was obvious from the get go when the refs were letting GB late hits on Tony.

I watched the video over 20 times now on that catch. There is no reason for a ref to overturn it. Its a catch.

I'm calling it the Lambeau lung. Since that Dez came down with it and had full control with 2-3 steps. He's not allowed to lung like that because it will make it an incomplete pass.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

How about coaching a WR that if he is going to the ground, make sure you secure the ball and don't let is pop out. That way there can be no controversy. Bottom line is he needed to hold onto the ball more than he needed to get another yard and he should know that in that situation. He made an incredible play but didn't fully secure it.

You can look at it however you like. I'm not concerned one way or another.

That was a catch.

I know it.

You know it.

Dez knew it. He came to the ground, on his feet, with the ball, switched hands, took three steps, and lunged at the endzone. By my count that is 4-5 football moves after the leaping catch. He didn't have to worry about losing it on the ground because if he did it would have been down at the one as the ground can't cause a fumble.

There is nothing to coach Bryant to do differently there.

 

[ConstantReboot]

How about coaching a WR that if he is going to the ground, make sure you secure the ball and don't let is pop out. That way there can be no controversy. Bottom line is he needed to hold onto the ball more than he needed to get another yard and he should know that in that situation. He made an incredible play but didn't fully secure it.

He secured it. Otherwise how would he be able to lung like that towards the endzone.

 

[DFWJC]

So are three steps not a football move anymore?

Of course they. Zero debate. That was a legal catch.
I done for this season.

 

[DogFace]

The rule needs to be changeD, clearly. It's BS.

That rule shouldn't have been applied here Sarge. Wrong circumstance.

 

[KJJ]

No its not. Ask me this? If he didn't have full control of the ball why was he still able to extend it out into the endzone?

The Calvin Johnson was him taking the ball and palming it down into the ground. Which doesn't show full control. Answer why was Dez being able to extend it out is different from Calvin using his hand to palm to the ground. Dez had full control. Calvin Johnson does not apply here.

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Yes it was similar which is why it's being mentioned if you can't see the similarity that's on your end. Like with Johnson Dez had control but he didn't complete the process of the catch all the way to the ground the ball came loose which is why the call was reversed to incomplete. The Calvin Johnson play was similar he clearly made the catch but the ball came loose when it touched the ground which under the rule made it incomplete. Sorry if I share the opinion of the experts trained to make these calls and not those of Cowboy FANS like yourself.

 

[cml750]

Dallas lost the game not the refs

Agreed!! They left points on the field but it was still a bad call.