Done with the NFLs officiating

[KJJ]

The picked up PI was correct. There was a blatant hold however, which would have allowed detroit to score most likely putting the game out of reach. So this game might not even be possible. But just like Detroit, Dallas had plenty of chances to put the game out of reach and couldn't close.

I don't agree with this interpretation of the rule (as another ref might have ruled it a catch) because it is an opinion to whether he made a football move or not. In the offseason some of the rules may need to be looked at...but I agree Cowboys lost flat out. Refs just kicked us in the gut.

Don't care to revisit last weeks call although I did mention it that's over and done with like todays call. There were 2 sets of eyes reviewing the call and Blandinio just said Dez didn't complete the process of the catch all the way to the ground. The ball clearly came loose when the ball touched the ground then Dez regained control again. That's an incomplete pass as stated by the current rule.

 

[Cowboys22]

So let me get this straight, just so I don't lose my mind if it happens again... A receiver can catch the football, have full and complete possession, take three steps with the ball, then lunge for the end zone but because the ball hit the ground the entire pass is incomplete? I don't think so. He wasn't bobbling the ball on his way down, and the ground didn't dictate him catching the ball or not. If he flat out dove to catch the ball, it would be different. He caught the ball, stood up, took three steps while having possession, and then dove and the ball hit the ground. That's a complete pass buddy.

You need to rewatch the play objectively. As soon as he comes down with the ball he immediately begins falling to the ground. Yes, he takes a few steps as he is going to the ground but they are irrelevant because he is going to the ground. By rule, he must maintain possession. He didn't. Incomplete pass. If he had been fully upright when he took the steps, it would have been a completion but that is not what happened. It's not really hard to understand the rule if you don't let anything cloud your objectivity. The rule sucks and should be reviewed. That should be a catch and it was 5 years ago. Today, by rule, it is not.

 

[Section446]

No matter where you stand on the call, what's done is done, move on.

 

[dallasfan4lizife]

Don't care to revisit last weeks call although I did mention it that's over and done with like todays call. There were 2 sets of eyes reviewing the call and Blandinio just said Dez didn't complete the process of the catch all the way to the ground. The ball clearly came loose when the ball touched the ground then Dez regained control again. That's an incomplete pass as stated by the current rule.

I mean, the rule was just made 4 years ago. Do you like the rule or no?

 

[Kevinicus]

You need to rewatch the play objectively. As soon as he comes down with the ball he immediately begins falling to the ground. Yes, he takes a few steps as he is going to the ground but they are irrelevant because he is going to the ground. By rule, he must maintain possession. He didn't. Incomplete pass. If he had been fully upright when he took the steps, it would have been a completion but that is not what happened. It's not really hard to understand the rule if you don't let anything cloud your objectivity. The rule sucks and should be reviewed. That should be a catch and it was 5 years ago. Today, by rule, it is not.

When he gets his 2nd foot down, he is not yet going to the ground (the contact that causes it occurs just after). At that point, going to the ground cannot come into play in determining if it is a catch.

 

[tyke1doe]

Kinda hard to think about extending the ball toward the goal line if you haven't even caught it yet.

I think Dez believes he has the ball. He's just trying to score a touchdown. In another era, that's a catch all the way. Not in this era, though.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Mike Perria just explained the rule, can't be any clearer than that, and I agree with him...it's an incomplete pass

Mike Perera is an idiot. He knows thats a catch but was afraid to call it as it is. There is a lot in stake for the NFL to make sure Dallas gets punished. This play was it.

 

[tyke1doe]

I don't agree. He's trying to make a play to win the game. You can never stop that mindset in the heat of the moment. It goes way too fast for a playmaker to stop and think, 'hey, i'll take the conservative route here'

But we don't need him to win the game. We need him to make a first down. We had more than four minutes left. And it was fourth down. Just do your job. Don't try to win the game by yourself.

 

[ConstantReboot]

The NFL is not rigged, by the officiating is very poor and inconsistent, probably because the rules are overly complex and nobody really understands them. BTW, why is an NFL playoff ref, refing multiple college basketball games the week before this game?

There is nothing complex about that call. Stop being in denial just because it was overturned. Bryant took 2-3 steps and lunged forward with the ball. If he had full control why was he able to lung forward with it?

Thats a catch. The Cowboys was robbed. Was there bias? Of course there was. Otherwise why would they overturn it.

 

[KJJ]

I mean, the rule was just made 4 years ago. Do you like the rule or no?

I hated the rule when it came out those plays by Johnson and Dez were completed passes but the rule that's in place makes them both incomplete which is ridiculous.

 

[tyke1doe]

Mike Perera is an idiot. He knows thats a catch but was afraid to call it as it is. There is a lot in stake for the NFL to make sure Dallas gets punished. This play was it.

Pulease. The NFL wants nothing more than to see Dallas advance as far as it can. I thought he caught the ball too. But under the present rules, it was a no-catch. It sucks, but we should never have been in the position for the game to come down to that play.

 

[Cowboys22]

When he gets his 2nd foot down, he is not yet going to the ground (the contact that causes it occurs just after). At that point, going to the ground cannot come into play in determining if it is a catch.

Doesn't matter. It is not the physical act of the 2nd foot coming down that constitutes the end of the catch. It is the entire process of catching the ball and making a football move. If you begin going to the ground before all of that then you must maintain possession. He didn't make a football move before beginning to go to the ground.

 

[George]

I've seen the play more than I care to. He catches the ball, but he must maintain control all the way to the ground. He doesn't. The ball hits the ground. Therefore, it's not a catch. I don't like the rule, but that play has been called against many other receivers.

Yes. Bryant does control the ball for three steps before he reaches the ground. And, at the ground, he still controls the ball, hence the shift from right hand to left to stretch to the goal. If Bryant simply falls to the ground and the ball pops out, then you might argue that Bryant does not maintain control. Unlike Calvin Johnson, Bryant does not contact the ground immediately and maintains control throughout, even when the ball contacts the ground. Bryant put the ball on the ground. Bryant did not involuntarily lose control of the ball even when he was rolling in the end zone. There was no question that Bryant had control of the ball. Calvin Johnson lost control of the ball out of bounds. This was clearly the NFL making a mistake.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I hated the rule when it came out those plays by Johnson and Dez were completed passes but the rule that's in place makes them both incomplete which is ridiculous.

This has nothing to do with the Calvin Johnson rule. He had full control of the ball and took 2-3 steps. Otherwise, if he didn't have full control he would not been able to extend the ball out into the endzone.

Stop being in denial. This is not the Calvin Johnson rule. Dez showed he had full control by extending the ball out like he did. Thats proof that he had full control.

Refs robbed the Cowboys on this one and the evidence is not even close.

 

[DogFace]

Practically every time you see a ball touch the ground and the ball comes loose
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If it's obvious he had control it wouldn't have been reversed. The ball touching the ground and coming loose cost him a catch.

Hey. I hate you. Can you leave forever? Thanks

 

[HoustonSucks]

Does anyone have a vid of the Calvin Johnson play that supposedly this rule came from?????

 

[DogFace]

he didn't take three steps

He did in the opinion of reasonable people.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Pulease. The NFL wants nothing more than to see Dallas advance as far as it can. I thought he caught the ball too. But under the present rules, it was a no-catch. It sucks, but we should never have been in the position for the game to come down to that play.

Ummm not really. I think there is a strong bias against the Cowboys. People love to hate them.

Under what rules? Its not the Calvin Johnson rules. He had full control. Otherwise he would not been able to extend the ball out like that.

 

[Fletch]

Everyone here can think the call was botched it's not going to change anything except maybe the interpretation of the rule at the next owners meeting.

Good point.

 

[KJJ]

This has nothing to do with the Calvin Johnson rule. He had full control of the ball and took 2-3 steps. Otherwise, if he didn't have full control he would not been able to extend the ball out into the endzone.

Stop being in denial. This is not the Calvin Johnson rule. Dez showed he had full control by extending the ball out like he did. Thats proof that he had full control.

Refs robbed the Cowboys on this one and the evidence is not even close.

You're the one in denial the current rule makes the catch incomplete.The play was similar to the Calvin Johnson play they both caught the ball and lost control when the ball touched the ground except Dez regained control. Under the current rule that's an incomplete pass…nuff said!