Done with the NFLs officiating

[tyke1doe]

Correct call terrible rule.

Yet, if the situation was reverse and Cobb had been Dez, we'd be rejoicing. Shrug.

 

[superonyx]

Apparently, the interpretation is that this was all part of the process of the catch. That, in order to make the catch, he had to switch the ball to his left hand and extend the ball toward the goal line. Unless somebody has some other explanation.

Awesome post.

 

[manster4ever]

I've seen the play more than I care to. He catches the ball, but he must maintain control all the way to the ground. He doesn't. The ball hits the ground. Therefore, it's not a catch. I don't like the rule, but that play has been called against many other receivers.

this is COMPLETE nonsense as he had already taken TWO steps and then lunged. As someone else in the thread already pointed out: if this were true every catch and run would be brought back if the ball was fumbled at the end of the run. Either by the ground forcing it or not. He MADE a football move, but the part that will haunt him for the rest of his life was trying to stretch it out and get in the end zone. Came up short, ball hit the ground and THAT gave them the opening to job us...which they did.

 

[percyhoward]

He never had possession according to the new rule enacted 4 years ago. I don't get what is so hard to understand about that. He went to the ground as part of catching the ball, thus, he must maintain possession. He didn't. Five years ago, catch. Today, incomplete.

He caught the ball with two hands. If he still hadn't made the catch while he went to the ground, why would he take his other hand off the ball?

 

[KJJ]

He kept it up and I banned him and my bans are permanent.

 

[Ken]

By the letter of the rule, no it wasn't. You sound like Detroit's fans last week.

Everyone from the owner on down thought it was a catch but you throw this garbage out there?

The difference is a lot. 1...there was no PI on that play. That makes the entire argument invalid since holding was not called but the NFLsaid that could have been called. Unfortunately..for Detroit...they got the call right.

Here...you have as clear a catch as you can have in the most clutch situation ever overturned based on what they think they saw and it is not supported by anything of a factual nature...ie the ball hitting the ground....

 

[tyke1doe]

Here's Dez's play it's the ball coming loose when he hits the ground during the entire process. That's what caused the reversal.

I've said this before, but I think Dez secures the ball. But he's think to extend the ball towards the goal instead of securing it all the way to the ground. And because that's his mindset, he's not even thinking that if the ball touches, it's a no catch.

I wish Dez had known the situation. We didn't need him to make a touchdown. We just needed him to make a catch. But he's super competitive and wanted a touchdown. And that's why I believe he tried to angle towards the goal line. Not criticizing him, but I think that's something he's going to realize as he matures.

 

[manster4ever]

How was JJ's mood after the fact? I haven't seen or heard...

 

[Gaede]

I've said this before, but I think Dez secures the ball. But he's think to extend the ball towards the goal instead of securing it all the way to the ground. And because that's his mindset, he's not even thinking that if the ball touches, it's a no catch.

I wish Dez had known the situation. We didn't need him to make a touchdown. We just needed him to make a catch. But he's super competitive and wanted a touchdown. And that's why I believe he tried to angle towards the goal line. Not criticizing him, but I think that's something he's going to realize as he matures.

I don't agree. He's trying to make a play to win the game. You can never stop that mindset in the heat of the moment. It goes way too fast for a playmaker to stop and think, 'hey, i'll take the conservative route here'

 

[manster4ever]

I've said this before, but I think Dez secures the ball. But he's think to extend the ball towards the goal instead of securing it all the way to the ground. And because that's his mindset, he's not even thinking that if the ball touches, it's a no catch.

I wish Dez had known the situation. We didn't need him to make a touchdown. We just needed him to make a catch. But he's super competitive and wanted a touchdown. And that's why I believe he tried to angle towards the goal line. Not criticizing him, but I think that's something he's going to realize as he matures.

He had ALREADY TAKEN TWO STEPS BEFORE HE LUNGED...yes, he made a football move. YES, they screwed us. YES I'm almost over it because Seattle is much better than GBay or Dallas. But that's what happened. It was NOT part of the process because he already had POSSESSION....wake up and watch it again man and you'll see myself and the majority of people on here and on the Fox Post game are right.

 

[KJJ]

I've said this before, but I think Dez secures the ball. But he's think to extend the ball towards the goal instead of securing it all the way to the ground. And because that's his mindset, he's not even thinking that if the ball touches, it's a no catch.

That's where it all went wrong he "appears's" to have the ball controlled but he looses the ball after he and the ball touches the ground then he regains control. That goes as an incompletion under the current rule. Everyone needs to look at the Calvin Johnson play that I just posted he had the ball caught but lost control after the ball touched the ground. It's virtually the same thing that happened to Dez except Dez regained control but it was too late the ball had already hit the ground.

 

[mahoneybill]

What does it say when Pereira says he made a dive for the end zone, but it was not enough of a dive. So he made a football move, but not enough of a football move? Either he made a football move or he didn't.

Typical weasel words. He's going to stick with his brethren on this one

 

[percyhoward]

I've said this before, but I think Dez secures the ball. But he's think to extend the ball towards the goal instead of securing it all the way to the ground.

Kinda hard to think about extending the ball toward the goal line if you haven't even caught it yet.

 

[shmee]

Here's Dez's play it's the ball coming loose when he hits the ground during the entire process. That's what caused the reversal.

Oh I know I've seen it. What I was saying is that when I've seen that rule called in the past, the ball was gone, rolling on the ground, or pinned. I don't think that ever happened with dez's catch.

Yes he did. He just catches it again which is irrelevant.

 

[dallasfan4lizife]

The ones who are trained to make this calls do see my POV. I could care less if a bunch of FANS on this board don't see it. Dude, I'm not the one being abrasive I understand why the call was reversed it's the ones who can't see why the play was reversed that are being abrasive.

I mean what do you expect on a forum full of die hard fans, with a questionable call to essentially end the game.
We left ALOT of points on the field today, really sloppy. Can't beat them scoring 21 through 4 quarters. But that call stings bottom line.

 

[KJJ]

Oh I know I've seen it. What I was saying is that when I've seen that rule called in the past, the ball was gone, rolling on the ground, or pinned. I don't think that ever happened with dez's catch.

I know what you're saying the ball is usually gone but in this case Dez regained control "after" the ball hit the ground.

 

[skinsscalper]

He kept it up and I banned him and my bans are permanent.

Terrifying.

 

[Don Corleone]

I know what you're saying the ball is usually gone but in this case Dez regained control "after" the ball hit the ground.

How do you know the ball hit the ground? Give a pic or a camera view please if you have one. There is no proof that ball hit the ground.

 

[KJJ]

I mean what do you expect on a forum full of die hard fans, with a questionable call to essentially end the game.
We left ALOT of points on the field today, really sloppy. Can't beat them scoring 21 through 4 quarters. But that call stings bottom line.

This is exactly what you would expect on a Cowboy FAN forum. Last weeks reversal was the correct call because it went in favor of the Cowboys and this call was a botched call because it went against the Cowboys. The Cowboys had plenty of opportunities to have the game not come down to that review.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Everyone from the owner on down thought it was a catch but you throw this garbage out there?

If you don't know the rules, you shouldn't post about the rules.

Game is over. We lost. If it had been a catch, we may have won this game. We didn't win and complaining about a non-catch that you are completely wrong about isn't going to change that fact.