Done with the NFLs officiating

[tideh20heel]

How about coaching a WR that if he is going to the ground, make sure you secure the ball and don't let is pop out. That way there can be no controversy. Bottom line is he needed to hold onto the ball more than he needed to get another yard and he should know that in that situation. He made an incredible play but didn't fully secure it.

BS! Not a bit of that is worth wiping my butt with

 

[dupree89]

This would be my take about the NFL and officiating:

I don't think the NFL office cares who wins any game.
I also don't think the NFL officials care who wins any game.
But the NFL officials are not locked up in a room during the week.
They followed all the media reports from last week's game.
They are human, and I do think they feel the pressure.
And since it was perceived that Dallas got a big break last week, I do think that it had an impact on some 50/50 calls going against us this week.

And that's not suggesting it is because it is Dallas. I think any team that the public feels got a huge break in their last game (and its widely publicized) , the officials are going to go against that team on some borderline calls the following week.

 

[Cowboys22]

Just saw the Bryant play and all I can say is...????...Like Beckham Jr. tweeted...how is that not a catch? In no way is that an incomplete pass. If that is not a catch then you have to go back and rule out a ton of great catches over the entire history of the NFL. Repugnant...absolutely repugnant.

That's the point. The rule enacted 4 years ago makes plays that were catches for 150 years into incompletions. That's were the outrage should be directed.

 

[Cowboys22]

BS! Not a bit of that is worth wiping my butt with

So you don't think he needed to maintain possession?

 

[tideh20heel]

Johnson did not take three steps. That is the difference though the Johnson call was bad too IMHO. The rule needs to be changed so there is no doubt when a receiver makes an amazing play.

But that would get in the way of us watching the referees officiated s game. This is a prime example of a rules committee making rules the refs can't figure out how to apply. That won't stop the type of personality that would actually want that job from trying to do it though

 

[RS12]

Done with the NFLs officiating

You are done until August. Got it.

 

[kramskoi]

That's the point. The rule enacted 4 years ago makes plays that were catches for 150 years into incompletions. That's were the outrage should be directed.

I think YR has it right though...the CJ rule does not apply on the Bryant catch because Dez is trying to advance the ball, where if he had already been IN the end-zone, there would be no need to attempt an advance. This was a gross misinterpretation and application of that rule, simply because after 2 steps, Bryant is outside of the endzone and clearly trying to "spot" the goal-line with the ball.

 

[joseephuss]

The only thing that ticked me off about the officials was the no call on Clay Matthews. That hit on Romo was very late and he went for Romo's knees. It was ridiculous for there not to be a call on that play.

 

[Naruto]

So tired of hearing this stupid hot sports take.

The Calvin Johnson rule only comes into play in the endzone.

The issue here is if Dez had made a "football move."

He had control at the top of his jump. As he was coming down he shifted the ball into his left hand. Stretched for the pylon.

How is that not a football move?

No it doesn't. The rule applies anywhere on the field but I guess Aaron Rodgers is a dumb sports disc jockey too because he cited the rule as well in his post game interview.

He may have had control of the ball but he didn't have control of his body. The rule is crystal clear in this regards.

 

[tideh20heel]

So you don't think he needed to maintain possession?

He did up until the point he was down by contact. That lunge toward the goal line was by definition a football move. A controlled one at that. As evidenced by the gathering of his leg before the lunge. He also took steps, was tripped which was the actual reason he was going down short.
The replay shows the ball loose after the lunge but the video looks like he maintained possession after the ball was briefly in contact with the ground and was loosened by his shoulder pad and subsequently re secured without ever touching the field.
None of that would have mattered however because any person with half a brain knew he fought it and was down. His lack of full extensive was further evidence of control because had he flailed the ball wildly as Pierra seemed to want him to do he risked fumbling out of the end zone which you can bet would have resulted in Green Bay ball because under those circumstances three steps and multiple football moves would have meant possession.
I'm pretty happy with everything Dez did on a play that as you can tell by the length of this post had many more moving parts than she moly a player falling to the ground which is what this absurd if non applicable rule is meant to cover.

 

[Cowboys22]

I think YR has it right though...the CJ rule does not apply on the Bryant catch because Dez is trying to advance the ball, where if he had already been IN the end-zone, there would be no need to attempt an advance. This was a gross misinterpretation and application of that rule, simply because after 2 steps, Bryant is outside of the endzone and clearly trying to "spot" the goal-line with the ball.

I think that is over thinking the interpretation of the rule. The rule is pretty simple. He was going to the ground and the rule says he has to maintain possession. He didn't. It really isn't anymore complicated than that. Everybody talking about their three steps, football moves, two feet down with control, just don't understand the new rule or simply want to ignore the facts of the play. He caught the ball, came down, immediately began falling to the ground, and lost control of the ball. The new rule calls that an incompletion.

 

[Jerryrage]

You are done until August. Got it.

Oh, I'm done until the draft.. The Vodka has been pushed out of my system now and my eyes are returning from a red glaze state.


Overall it's a 60m game and for something to be taken away like it was hurts the NFL and its fans.

I'm proud of this team this year, with that said. I thought they had a real shot at a Superbowl.

 

[tideh20heel]

No it doesn't. The rule applies anywhere on the field but I guess Aaron Rodgers is a dumb sports disc jockey too because he cited the rule as well in his post game interview.

He may have had control of the ball but he didn't have control of his body. The rule is crystal clear in this regards.

Enough control to switch hands, stay inbounds, take three steps and dive for the goal line. Lunging for the goal line is such a good football move they made it the object of the game.

 

[Cowboys22]

He did up until the point he was down by contact. That lunge toward the goal line was by definition a football move. A controlled one at that. As evidenced by the gathering of his leg before the lunge. He also took steps, was tripped which was the actual reason he was going down short.
The replay shows the ball loose after the lunge but the video looks like he maintained possession after the ball was briefly in contact with the ground and was loosened by his shoulder pad and subsequently re secured without ever touching the field.
None of that would have mattered however because any person with half a brain knew he fought it and was down. His lack of full extensive was further evidence of control because had he flailed the ball wildly as Pierra seemed to want him to do he risked fumbling out of the end zone which you can bet would have resulted in Green Bay ball because under those circumstances three steps and multiple football moves would have meant possession.
I'm pretty happy with everything Dez did on a play that as you can tell by the length of this post had many more moving parts than she moly a player falling to the ground which is what this absurd if non applicable rule is meant to cover.

Falling toward the goal line after making a catch is not a football move. He went to the ground as part of the catch and needed to maintain possession. He didn't.

 

[gbrittain]

Hint hint NFL. If a player goes up and gets the ball with his right hand, switches to his left hand, takes two steps, PURPOSEFULLY lunges into the end zone with full control of the ball...you have witnessed a catch. I know it seams crazy and all but yeah it is a catch.

 

[KJJ]

So tired of hearing this stupid hot sports take.

The Calvin Johnson rule only comes into play in the endzone.

Not so read the rule it's the same whether a receiver is in the endzone or out of the endzone.


"A player who goes to the ground in the process of attempting to secure possession of a loose ball (with or without contact by an opponent) must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, there is no possession. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, it is a catch, interception, or recovery."

 

[tideh20heel]

Falling toward the goal line after making a catch is not a football move. He went to the ground as part of the catch and needed to maintain possession. He didn't.

He didn't fall he switch hands reached out and lunged. Lunging is clear from the *** grass that flew up after he flexed his leg and pushed off the ground. The part of the catch faze ended about a step and a half before that. If you can't see that lunge as a controlled separate action I can't help you. If the Green Bay player doesn't contact his legs he would have been in the endzone

 

[Naruto]

How was the call correct? If he was bobbling it on the way to the ground I would understand. He had clear possession, took 3 steps, and lunged for the end zone. So are you telling me the "rule" is that any ball that hits the ground, regardless of if the receiver has possession or not, is automatically an incomplete pass? With that logic you're saying that a receiver can catch a short pass, run 50 yards and trip, but if the ball hits the ground as he's going down, the entire pass is incomplete. Doesn't matter if they run 50 yards or take 3 steps (like Dez did)... all that matters is if he had possession before the ball hits the ground, which he clearly did.

The problem is the refs did not see that as a lunge and saw it as a continuation of his fall. The refs did not see his 3 steps or shifting hands as moves either. Therefore according to the refs Dez never made a football move. Which means all these ******** fumbling rules come into play. And no the 50 yards running downfield would imply the player made a "football move" which rules out any whacko fumbling rules.

 

[Naruto]

What does it say when Pereira says he made a dive for the end zone, but it was not enough of a dive. So he made a football move, but not enough of a football move? Either he made a football move or he didn't.

If it helps you sleep at night think of it this way. Dez Bryant lost possession while making a football move(the lunge). Therefore he technically did not complete a football move before losing possession.

 

[DTown214]

Ok I was 99% sure it was a catch... but after hearing more about the rules that they were just discussing on NFL Network, I'm 100% sure. The number 1 argument for people saying it wasn't a catch is that he was falling to the ground and then the ball touched the ground (still makes no sense because he already had possession and took 3 steps), but anyways... after he already had possession he makes his "football move" by clearly reaching for the end zone after he catches it. On NFL Network they were talking to the head official or whatever and someone asked him why it wasn't considered a "football move" when he reached for the end zone... the idiot said that it wasn't conclusive enough that he was reaching for the end zone.... WHAT!? He clearly was going for the TD, it's almost undebatable. Unbelievable.